Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

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Also, I'd love to hear what, if anything, people have heard about the messaging from CCL on all this.

I would love to hear it also, I bet they are not happy to lose BRYC. I did notice on the CCL webpage they have removed any reference to CCL next gen, maybe that isn't happening now either ?

Huh? Where did you read BRYC was leaving CCL?

There was an article in soccerwire said they are joining ECNL boys and girls. It did not specifically state but you have to assume that is where they will move their A teams, no ?

So what. McLean is in both ECNL and CCL.

Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

At u12 and above so are Loudons and Arlington because of DA.

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Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

Where do McLean boys A teams play? I know girls are ECNL.

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At u12 and above so are Loudons and Arlington because of DA.

Arlington DA is only boys, so this doesn't apply to girls, and it's only U12-14 right now, (well, technically 2002, 2003, 2004 and maybe 2005?) so this doesn't apply to U15-up, either.

I believe Loudoun is the same. Boys from u12-u14.

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Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

Where do McLean boys A teams play? I know girls are ECNL.

Their best boys team i(u17) plays in the National league. Don't know about others.

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So after reading all of this jargon, I conclude there are too many damn leagues.

Dilution.

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Also, I'd love to hear what, if anything, people have heard about the messaging from CCL on all this.

I would love to hear it also, I bet they are not happy to lose BRYC. I did notice on the CCL webpage they have removed any reference to CCL next gen, maybe that isn't happening now either ?

Huh? Where did you read BRYC was leaving CCL?

There was an article in soccerwire said they are joining ECNL boys and girls. It did not specifically state but you have to assume that is where they will move their A teams, no ?

So what. McLean is in both ECNL and CCL.

Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

Where does BRYC's B team(s) play? How many teams do they have at the younger ages?

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Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

Where do McLean boys A teams play? I know girls are ECNL.

Their best boys team i(u17) plays in the National league. Don't know about others.

CCL. They had their Boys full DA taken away and haven't been able to get it back.

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Also, I'd love to hear what, if anything, people have heard about the messaging from CCL on all this.

I would love to hear it also, I bet they are not happy to lose BRYC. I did notice on the CCL webpage they have removed any reference to CCL next gen, maybe that isn't happening now either ?

Huh? Where did you read BRYC was leaving CCL?

There was an article in soccerwire said they are joining ECNL boys and girls. It did not specifically state but you have to assume that is where they will move their A teams, no ?

So what. McLean is in both ECNL and CCL.

Mclean's teams that play in CCL are B teams. BRYC has had its A team in CCL. No comparison between those two.

Where does BRYC's B team(s) play? How many teams do they have at the younger ages?

At younger ages, the B team has played in CCL2. I don't think they have a C, D, etc. team that would play in WAGS/NCSL or ODSL, like at bigger clubs. At older ages, I believe a PP stated that they really only have one team, which seems right. That one team will now feed into their ECNL roster, and I bet they could carry a B team now at the older ages composed of the lesser players who didn't make it. That second team would probably play in CCL, same as where McLean sends it's B team. Makes CCL a weaker league, especially for Loudoun and Arlington who wouldn't have much competition left but each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why BRYC is moving to the ECNL?

Spirit can't get their DA act together?

that is probably a very good guess

so previously soccerwire announces an alliance between 4 local ccl clubs, including bryc, to send players to a new wash spirit-VA girls DA, and then they announce that L. BEST from BRYC is going to be involved in this new VA girls DA, but today they announce Best's excitement that BRYC is going to ECNL, meanwhile across the country, a few clubs are rejecting their da invites and sticking with ECNL, is this correct? i try to add this up and the PP seems right, girls DA is falling apart. Did Best throw in the towel on girls DA?

Link: http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/bryc-elite-academy-to-join-boys-and-girls-ecnl-for-2017-18-season/

No, I suggested that perhaps the Spirit cannot gets its act together in regards to the DA. I did not suggest that the DA is falling apart.

There was no DA for BEst to throw the towel in on. They were simply affiliated with the Spirit for scouting purposes but the Spirit holds the rights to DA not BRYC. The fact that BRYC took an opportunity to join ECNL says more about their desire to control their own destiny rather than be a part of an alliance frankly does not speak negatively on the Girls DA or even the Spirit for that matter. At face value it just means that BRYC simply prefers some league and structure certainty as well as their own club identity.

there was a DA for best to personally (not talking BRYC) throw the towel in on and not be affiliated with as the soccerwire article hyped - namely, it was the Washington Spirit DA in Fairfax VA. also, as far as BRYC, i doubt best would want to send his top players to the Spirit DA now that he has ecnl. or maybe he is hedging his bets so he can have flexibility to send best players to the da or keep them at home, depending on their needs and situaton, as well as which league prevails? we should see in a couple weeks if he has a role any longer as either TD or coach with the Spirit DA. previously he was going to be involved, but curious to see the upcoming Spirit announcement for the VA side and whether he or someone else is running the show now: http://washingtonspirit.com/youth/second-development-academy-id-day-set-for-sunday-in-northern-virginia/

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Anonymous wrote:Multiple Sports vs Specializing...

Is Specializing when you play one sport and ONLY one sport year round? When people talk about multiple sports, are they saying...for example, baseball and ONLY baseball in the spring, swimming and ONLY swimming in the summer, soccer in the fall, and basketball and only basketball in the winter?

My kid plays soccer year round at least 3 days a week off season and 4 days a week in season. In the summer does swim team too. In the winter he plays basketball too. Those sports take "priority" in the off season but he still plays a lot of soccer even in the offseason between outdoor training and futsal.

Would the experts say he specializes or a multi-sport kid? It's never been clear to me.

To me that is multi sport. My kid does the same minus swimming on a team in the summer although he swims every day. Specializing to me is if you only did soccer all year round and nothing else. The number of days would probably increase but it would still be just that one sport.

Disagree. Multi sport with a specialization in soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why BRYC is moving to the ECNL?

Spirit can't get their DA act together?

that is probably a very good guess

so previously soccerwire announces an alliance between 4 local ccl clubs, including bryc, to send players to a new wash spirit-VA girls DA, and then they announce that L. BEST from BRYC is going to be involved in this new VA girls DA, but today they announce Best's excitement that BRYC is going to ECNL, meanwhile across the country, a few clubs are rejecting their da invites and sticking with ECNL, is this correct? i try to add this up and the PP seems right, girls DA is falling apart. Did Best throw in the towel on girls DA?

Link: http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/bryc-elite-academy-to-join-boys-and-girls-ecnl-for-2017-18-season/

No, I suggested that perhaps the Spirit cannot gets its act together in regards to the DA. I did not suggest that the DA is falling apart.

There was no DA for BEst to throw the towel in on. They were simply affiliated with the Spirit for scouting purposes but the Spirit holds the rights to DA not BRYC. The fact that BRYC took an opportunity to join ECNL says more about their desire to control their own destiny rather than be a part of an alliance frankly does not speak negatively on the Girls DA or even the Spirit for that matter. At face value it just means that BRYC simply prefers some league and structure certainty as well as their own club identity.

there was a DA for best to personally (not talking BRYC) throw the towel in on and not be affiliated with as the soccerwire article hyped - namely, it was the Washington Spirit DA in Fairfax VA. also, as far as BRYC, i doubt best would want to send his top players to the Spirit DA now that he has ecnl. or maybe he is hedging his bets so he can have flexibility to send best players to the da or keep them at home, depending on their needs and situaton, as well as which league prevails? we should see in a couple weeks if he has a role any longer as either TD or coach with the Spirit DA. previously he was going to be involved, but curious to see the upcoming Spirit announcement for the VA side and whether he or someone else is running the show now: http://washingtonspirit.com/youth/second-development-academy-id-day-set-for-sunday-in-northern-virginia/

Ummmm, if Spirit DA scout BRYC ECNL players and offer them a spot there really isn't anything Best can do about it. Players are not property that a club owns and allows a player to make a personal decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know why BRYC is moving to the ECNL?

Spirit can't get their DA act together?

that is probably a very good guess

so previously soccerwire announces an alliance between 4 local ccl clubs, including bryc, to send players to a new wash spirit-VA girls DA, and then they announce that L. BEST from BRYC is going to be involved in this new VA girls DA, but today they announce Best's excitement that BRYC is going to ECNL, meanwhile across the country, a few clubs are rejecting their da invites and sticking with ECNL, is this correct? i try to add this up and the PP seems right, girls DA is falling apart. Did Best throw in the towel on girls DA?

Link: http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/bryc-elite-academy-to-join-boys-and-girls-ecnl-for-2017-18-season/

No, I suggested that perhaps the Spirit cannot gets its act together in regards to the DA. I did not suggest that the DA is falling apart.

There was no DA for BEst to throw the towel in on. They were simply affiliated with the Spirit for scouting purposes but the Spirit holds the rights to DA not BRYC. The fact that BRYC took an opportunity to join ECNL says more about their desire to control their own destiny rather than be a part of an alliance frankly does not speak negatively on the Girls DA or even the Spirit for that matter. At face value it just means that BRYC simply prefers some league and structure certainty as well as their own club identity.

there was a DA for best to personally (not talking BRYC) throw the towel in on and not be affiliated with as the soccerwire article hyped - namely, it was the Washington Spirit DA in Fairfax VA. also, as far as BRYC, i doubt best would want to send his top players to the Spirit DA now that he has ecnl. or maybe he is hedging his bets so he can have flexibility to send best players to the da or keep them at home, depending on their needs and situaton, as well as which league prevails? we should see in a couple weeks if he has a role any longer as either TD or coach with the Spirit DA. previously he was going to be involved, but curious to see the upcoming Spirit announcement for the VA side and whether he or someone else is running the show now: http://washingtonspirit.com/youth/second-development-academy-id-day-set-for-sunday-in-northern-virginia/

Ummmm, if Spirit DA scout BRYC ECNL players and offer them a spot there really isn't anything Best can do about it. Players are not property that a club owns and allows a player to make a personal decision.

Duh. Previously it was announced that the USGDA would have Best involved and running it out in Fairfax, VA. Now looks like his status has changed. That affects the dynamics at BRYC, which previously was going to be in a 4-club alliance to send its best players to USGDA. Girls are not property, yes, but situation has totally changed for a parent and player of a top teenager at BRYC. If you don't understand the point, just look at McLean, the one local VA CCL club near the Potomac that was left out of the alliance. It is not a coincidence that they have an ECNL franchise. Maybe Best just sticks with running BRYC teams in the new ECNL league and has nothing to do with the new USGDA, which who knows, may be having problems getting its act together in Fairfax. We will see. He would have been a big and valuable part of the USGDA taking off in Fairfax. Part of the delay in announcing the Fairfax USGDA line-up may have been him changing his mind and getting out of that effort.

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Anonymous wrote:Multiple Sports vs Specializing...

Is Specializing when you play one sport and ONLY one sport year round? When people talk about multiple sports, are they saying...for example, baseball and ONLY baseball in the spring, swimming and ONLY swimming in the summer, soccer in the fall, and basketball and only basketball in the winter?

My kid plays soccer year round at least 3 days a week off season and 4 days a week in season. In the summer does swim team too. In the winter he plays basketball too. Those sports take "priority" in the off season but he still plays a lot of soccer even in the offseason between outdoor training and futsal.

Would the experts say he specializes or a multi-sport kid? It's never been clear to me.

To me that is multi sport. My kid does the same minus swimming on a team in the summer although he swims every day. Specializing to me is if you only did soccer all year round and nothing else. The number of days would probably increase but it would still be just that one sport.

Disagree. Multi sport with a specialization in soccer.

True but today it is so difficult for any kid to participate in nearly any sport at its "highest" level without year round demands being imposed. The rise of club sports simply make it to difficult. So kids now end up with these tiny windows in their main sport where they can play something else and mostly at a rec level.

The only logistically feasible way a kid can enjoy a variety of sports within their normal season is to play rec only. This is a huge pro with rec sports.

As it is any kid who plays a travel sport may often be put in a position of playing two sports in a season sometimes with some minimal overlap.

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As a BRYC parent, we have not had a meeting yet about the impacts of ECNL so nothing is official but the club and Larry doesn't seem to have any affiliation with the DA anymore. For example, the club's website no longer has the Washington Spirit logo on its banner and there's been no effort to get players to tryout for the DA.

The move to ECNL nullifies the need for top players to go to the DA for at least a year. If BRYC stayed as a DA affiliate, it would lose top players to the DA and the leftover teams would be third tier, below the DA and ECNL. Now that the top players have incentive to stay, the teams will be on the same level as other ECNL teams. Whether that is above or below the quality of the DA remains to be seen, but for at least the first year, it's unlikely that the DA will be significantly better and in my opinion, will probably be worse.

Of course, individual players can and will make a decision about where to play next year based on their particular needs, and no one can't force them to stay at BRYC. But that's always been the case. And it's the case facing other are clubs too, both those affiliate with the DA (Arlington and Loudoun) and those who aren't (FCV, Bethesda and McLean).

The problem for BRYC is that there is a big difference between in the quality of the teams at different age groups. Several teams consistently earn spots in the top-flight of tournaments, while others have trouble hanging with B teams. The club needs to improve those weaker teams, and being in ECNL should help. If you have a talented kid in those age groups, BRYC offers a great chance for them to make an ECNL team.

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I'm confused why people keep claiming that McLean B teams are in CCL.

For the boys side, I would think it's their A teams, as they don't have DA.