Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

Thank you for your detailed post. This makes sense.

So, basically, what was written on that casing doesn’t indicate one way or another what his political leanings are.

Curious as to why no one is listening to his father, who made it quite clear that he has swung politically to the left?

No one had to assume what is father is saying is true

So instead there are over 150 pages of speculation that are to be believed? His father knew him better than anyone on this forum. His father's words were backed up by others. It's not rocket science here.

Why are you so emotionally invested in him being a leftist? You really need this to be true, why?

I'm simply wondering why all the speculation when his father has told what was going on lately in the family. Why the need to speculate?

Because the father is only one witness of many potential witnesses, and two, he may be lying.

His son confessed to him and he helped talk him into turning himself in. Why lie? There were other witnesses at the dinner table, one stating that the shooter hated Charlie and was generally, full of hate.

The pastor was involved too at the end.

A bunch of mandated reporters - sheriff, community leadership, whole family.

And the discord buddies

And the roommate told to watch over the gun in the trees. Wtf.

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

That seems rather fatalistic / anti-men.

I'm a married woman with a son and if anything I become more radicalized every day. Men should be born in jail and forced to live their way out via good behavior.

This is literally the best idea I’ve ever heard in my 41 years on earth.

I too am a mother of a boy, who at 10 years old, is already exhibiting all the traits of toxic masculinity, just like a smaller, less hairy version of my XH. I’m fully expecting him to grow up and ruin some woman’s life one day like his father ruined mine.

The problem is men. ALL men. I’m not a lesbian or misandrist by any stretch, but I definitely hate men. They ruin our world.

Oh of course you are no misandrist lol!

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

+10000

He was a mentally ill person who got caught up in the toxic political climate that many of us have been caught up in recently. Sane people who fall into the hate the other "side" trap post stupid stuff online or say things we wish we could take back at Thanksgiving. Manufactured hate can drive mentally ill people to commit murder.

You aren't agreeing with the PP you are making a completely different point. He may or may not be mentally ill. No one in politics told him to kill anyone.

He's a human who shot another human being in cold blood. He's mentally ill. If you disagree with this, you need to crawl back under your rock to stop embarrassing yourself.

I think at least half of our society is now mentally ill to some extent. How about we try to figure out how to help these individuals? We’ve become such a nasty society, people are so mean to one another, more than ever it seems. No wonder everyone is mentally ill, a person can only handle so much in life. We need to support one another. Why are we so damn mean?

I don't want to live in a collectivist society

Then without strict gun control, we are all at risk of being murdered by a lonely, deranged, misfit lunatic, all because people like you felt it was okay to shun people from society. There is usually a common theme with these shooters other than being white males, they were not seamlessly fitting into society and rather than trying to to understand these people or even befriend them, modern day Americans shun them, force them to become outcasts, because they’re different than the norm. These people weren’t all born mentally ill, we created these people, modern day American society creates them. We’re pros at intentionally isolating people and then acting shocked when they finally implode.

Ah yes, those poor fragile little white men. It's entirely too much to expect them to adapt to the same circumstances faced by everyone else. Society just isn't bending far enough around to protect their feelings.

Ate you a bot? Because not all murderers are white. It has nothing to do with race.

Poor widdle men and their hurt feeeeelings.

Man up. Grow a pair, or a spine, or at least something. NONE of these triggered murdering men have it as bad as the worst-off 10% of American society, or even 25%. People are out there working three jobs, or separated from their families, or dealing with chronic pain, ALL THE TIME.

Why aren't the really hurt or sick people out there murdering? Because they don't have their heads up their own a--es. I really don't give much of a flying nut about "why" and "how" and "oooohhh, the poor young men" anymore. Come on. Whiners with guns who wouldn't know an actually hard day if it smacked them in the face.

Now we’re talking!

Grab your guns, let’s roll!

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Anonymous wrote:The first victim of male violence is the mother. I’ve never heard of any instance where a girl hits their mom for funsies but I’ve heard of plenty where little boys do just that

My daughter is a terror are you kidding!?

All little kids are but boys are way worse. They’re a menace. Weaker immune systems than girls. Changing a diaper is an Olympic sport. Everything’s just messier with a boy

What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

Thank you for your detailed post. This makes sense.

So, basically, what was written on that casing doesn’t indicate one way or another what his political leanings are.

Curious as to why no one is listening to his father, who made it quite clear that he has swung politically to the left?

How do we know what it means when a MAGA says somebody moved to the left? Their cult leader calls everyone who is a Democrat a radical leftist and every Republican who disagrees with him a RINO. The shooter’s father is a 3%er. Most Americans are to the left of him.

Is there a new statement from his father saying he moved to the left? What the Governor carefully described was the father saying he had gotten “more political” and many many people are telling on themselves by assuming that that means he moved to the left.

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

+1

Also watch the Adolescent (4 episodes)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

No, stop the cop outs

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

Thank you for your detailed post. This makes sense.

So, basically, what was written on that casing doesn’t indicate one way or another what his political leanings are.

Curious as to why no one is listening to his father, who made it quite clear that he has swung politically to the left?

No one had to assume what is father is saying is true

So instead there are over 150 pages of speculation that are to be believed? His father knew him better than anyone on this forum. His father's words were backed up by others. It's not rocket science here.

Why are you so emotionally invested in him being a leftist? You really need this to be true, why?

I'm simply wondering why all the speculation when his father has told what was going on lately in the family. Why the need to speculate?

Because the father is only one witness of many potential witnesses, and two, he may be lying.

His son confessed to him and he helped talk him into turning himself in. Why lie? There were other witnesses at the dinner table, one stating that the shooter hated Charlie and was generally, full of hate.

You have the quote wrong. So tiresome.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

WHAT RIGHT WING ONLINE COMMUNITY?

Post a link from a reputable source.

You don’t know the shooter, so any guesses you make are your theories.

Wait a second. Immediately after the shooting your Trump hero blamed it on the lunatic left. You didn't condemn him (and other MAGA lunatics). Now that it is more and more clearer that the shooter himself was a right wing lunatic, we have to be patient and learn more about his motives. Got it.

It has taken the heat from Epstein files and Trump's many failures. And this is the reason Trump is creating all the drama around the death and honoring Kirk. C'mon. This is a MAGA hit job to make Trump look good and also energize the deplorables.

Republicans in the debate Senate voted to block the Epstein files on September 10th. This story pretty much got buried. Very lucky timing for the Republicans not to have to answer for why they don't want to open up the Epstein files.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

It’s so scary. Back in the day, we saw Muslim youth being radicalized in this way. Middle class kids with seemingly stable home lives would up and join Isis. You would see those stories and wonder what the heck happened. These were not your typical suicide bombers with nothing left to lose. They had bright future ahead of them. And now we are seeing this same type of radicalization across races. The ideology is irrelevant. The isolation, the hate, the cycling into despair- those are the common themes. Apparently our young men are susceptible.

It has a lot to do with feeling othered or having others guilt or resentment pushed on to you. I think some white men feel othered or out of place in the dominant society due to messages of demonization or white privilege/straight white males being colonizers or evil/the patriarchy. Muslim males also have a similar issue where they certainly are othered and demonized. Same with black men. Even with trans.

When you’re thought to be “the problem”, you tend to internalize that and act out.

Women/girls are not demonized the way men are

Interesting, I don’t know if you remember prior to the internet and social media, we had ‘others’ who actually didn’t all turn into psychopathic killers. They just went along with life being the ‘other’. People were more apt to converse with them because the internet wasn’t telling the rest of us how to be and what type of person to engage with. We were free.

You can directly link the rise of white male violence/mass shootings to the election of Pres Obama. That’s when the mass shootings started to spike in this country.. it was like instead of 9/11 we got lots of random mass shootings instead. Maybe it’s related to the rise of tech and not just Obama but it all started then. The perceived “loss of control” or becoming the “minority/marginalized” group doesn’t have to be real to be believed. There are apparently men that believed it.

Lately, during the Trump admin, we have seen the rise of a few apparently trans shooters. That’s no accident either. They feel they are losing control.

Obama and/or more likely the internet.

Social media usage really ramped up in this time period. It’s all down hill from there.

+10000

2009- iPhones more common, photos and videos and selfies, Facebook for anyone not college by college, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

That seems rather fatalistic / anti-men.

I'm a married woman with a son and if anything I become more radicalized every day. Men should be born in jail and forced to live their way out via good behavior.

This is literally the best idea I’ve ever heard in my 41 years on earth.

I too am a mother of a boy, who at 10 years old, is already exhibiting all the traits of toxic masculinity, just like a smaller, less hairy version of my XH. I’m fully expecting him to grow up and ruin some woman’s life one day like his father ruined mine.

The problem is men. ALL men. I’m not a lesbian or misandrist by any stretch, but I definitely hate men. They ruin our world.

wtf

Stop him now! Reverse course!

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Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

“One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves.“

Seriously a very strange comment. Not at all rooted in reality or sanity. Yikes.

I think the derivative is before troubled young men would have commit suicide.
The last decade instead some seek media attention and infamy through planned killings of others. Often people they have never even met in person or had a direct encounter or relationship with.

It’s F’d up.

And exasperated by social media.

+1 million

And parents aren’t parenting. They use computers, games as screens as “parenting.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are trying to convince me that Tyler Robinson murdered someone he agreed with.

Am I making this up?

They voted for the same guy, both love Jesus, and probably agree on 90 percent of stuff… but the other 10 pissed him off so much he murdered him.

Got it!

Similarly Looigi was a standup citizen, student, friend, roommate, son, etc…..

Until he wasn’t.

Bingo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

Before women's liberation a woman was obligated to get married to have a place in society. They couldn't own property or get a credit card. Once women entered the workforce and were able to own their own houses they began to see marriage as a raw deal, which studies show it mostly is. Married women are the least happy demographic because most have to work outside of the home and do almost all of the housework and child rearing. They are opting out because they see how miserable most married women are.

This has created an entire generation of unmarried men who are not only single but being passed by in higher ed and the workplace. They sad and angry, but rather than turn inward and fix themselves they take their anger out on women. Why? Because American society is set up to tell both sexes that a man is a prize, that a woman is nothing without a man. That men should have their pick of women despite brining nothing to the table. The entitlement of the American male is woven into our dna.

This anger is starting to bubble up in these shootings and we're only going to see more and more of them because our entire society is set up to perpetuate the status quo.

I'm raising a son and we are not trucking in any of this entitlement bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

Bs he wrote fascists on the bullets. There is only one group who uses that term right now and its democrats.

And people who play Helldiver. Keep up.

You're failing to cover this fact that he was a democrat and uses all the popular buzz words. Smh.

Fail. His party registration is public and he is not a Democrat.

Who cares about party registration? You select that based on who you want up for local elections and referendums and primaries. And you can switch it.

Then for end election you vote your real party line anyhow. And leave the all repubs or all dem candidates blank.