Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

It’s so scary. Back in the day, we saw Muslim youth being radicalized in this way. Middle class kids with seemingly stable home lives would up and join Isis. You would see those stories and wonder what the heck happened. These were not your typical suicide bombers with nothing left to lose. They had bright future ahead of them. And now we are seeing this same type of radicalization across races. The ideology is irrelevant. The isolation, the hate, the cycling into despair- those are the common themes. Apparently our young men are susceptible.

It has a lot to do with feeling othered or having others guilt or resentment pushed on to you. I think some white men feel othered or out of place in the dominant society due to messages of demonization or white privilege/straight white males being colonizers or evil/the patriarchy. Muslim males also have a similar issue where they certainly are othered and demonized. Same with black men. Even with trans.

When you’re thought to be “the problem”, you tend to internalize that and act out.

Women/girls are not demonized the way men are

Interesting, I don’t know if you remember prior to the internet and social media, we had ‘others’ who actually didn’t all turn into psychopathic killers. They just went along with life being the ‘other’. People were more apt to converse with them because the internet wasn’t telling the rest of us how to be and what type of person to engage with. We were free.

You can directly link the rise of white male violence/mass shootings to the election of Pres Obama. That’s when the mass shootings started to spike in this country.. it was like instead of 9/11 we got lots of random mass shootings instead. Maybe it’s related to the rise of tech and not just Obama but it all started then. The perceived “loss of control” or becoming the “minority/marginalized” group doesn’t have to be real to be believed. There are apparently men that believed it.

Lately, during the Trump admin, we have seen the rise of a few apparently trans shooters. That’s no accident either. They feel they are losing control.

Obama and/or more likely the internet.

This is false. There was no surge in mass shootings when Obama got elected. However what did happen is that there was more coverage of mass shootings, which created a perception of a surge, along with a lot of rhetoric that Obama was going to confiscate everyones guns. Skip forward to the present and the reality is that Obama confiscated 0 guns and it was all hyperbolic nonsense from the right wing. As usual.

I don’t remember any mass shootings from the Bush years with the exception of Virginia Tech and the dc sniper

Yea thanks to the Assault Weapons Ban that was still in place at the time.

Sorry, you walked right into that one.

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

Trump said it; they want to beat all the leftists and Democrats down.

but it is the left that has a violence and hateful rhetoric problem.

/s

FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

WHAT RIGHT WING ONLINE COMMUNITY?

Post a link from a reputable source.

You don’t know the shooter, so any guesses you make are your theories.

Wait a second. Immediately after the shooting your Trump hero blamed it on the lunatic left. You didn't condemn him (and other MAGA lunatics). Now that it is more and more clearer that the shooter himself was a right wing lunatic, we have to be patient and learn more about his motives. Got it.

It has taken the heat from Epstein files and Trump's many failures. And this is the reason Trump is creating all the drama around the death and honoring Kirk. C'mon. This is a MAGA hit job to make Trump look good and also energize the deplorables.

Republicans in the debate Senate voted to block the Epstein files on September 10th. This story pretty much got buried. Very lucky timing for the Republicans not to have to answer for why they don't want to open up the Epstein files.

Na screw that. We still want the Epstein files. Plus Charlie Kirk himself said that shooting victims were an acceptable loss (Nashville TPUSA event, April 2023). Republicans dishonor Charlie's death by using this as a distraction.

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

Trump said it; they want to beat all the leftists and Democrats down.

but it is the left that has a violence and hateful rhetoric problem.

/s

FFS.

Trump is stoking domestic terrorism and is calling for genocide.

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Anonymous wrote:We don't need media links reporting as secondary sources, when the primary sources (right wing online communities) are readily available and accessible.

WHAT RIGHT WING ONLINE COMMUNITY?

Post a link from a reputable source.

You don’t know the shooter, so any guesses you make are your theories.

Wait a second. Immediately after the shooting your Trump hero blamed it on the lunatic left. You didn't condemn him (and other MAGA lunatics). Now that it is more and more clearer that the shooter himself was a right wing lunatic, we have to be patient and learn more about his motives. Got it.

It has taken the heat from Epstein files and Trump's many failures. And this is the reason Trump is creating all the drama around the death and honoring Kirk. C'mon. This is a MAGA hit job to make Trump look good and also energize the deplorables.

Republicans in the debate Senate voted to block the Epstein files on September 10th. This story pretty much got buried. Very lucky timing for the Republicans not to have to answer for why they don't want to open up the Epstein files.

Na screw that. We still want the Epstein files. Plus Charlie Kirk himself said that shooting victims were an acceptable loss (Nashville TPUSA event, April 2023). Republicans dishonor Charlie's death by using this as a distraction.

Seriously shouldn't people who support gun rights be excited that Charlie died for theur cause?

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

Yeah sorry don't have any respect left for people who want to turn this country into a fascist dictatorship. If you want to acknowledge that you chose the wrong path then we can break bread. And guess what I actually do love this country enough to stay here and fight for it to make it a better place for my children, not just watch it slide into a third world hell hole.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are trying to convince me that Tyler Robinson murdered someone he agreed with.

Am I making this up?

They voted for the same guy, both love Jesus, and probably agree on 90 percent of stuff… but the other 10 pissed him off so much he murdered him.

Got it!

Similarly Looigi was a standup citizen, student, friend, roommate, son, etc…..

Until he wasn’t.

Bingo

One guy got radicalized by Nick Fuentes and internet memes apparently

One guy got radicalized because he could not get adequate health care for ongoing pain.

Two very different forks in the road

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Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

It all over. Everywhere. Where do you people get your news? What websites do you read?

Bs he wrote fascists on the bullets. There is only one group who uses that term right now and its democrats.

And people who play Helldiver. Keep up.

You're failing to cover this fact that he was a democrat and uses all the popular buzz words. Smh.

Fail. His party registration is public and he is not a Democrat.

Who cares about party registration? You select that based on who you want up for local elections and referendums and primaries. And you can switch it.

Then for end election you vote your real party line anyhow. And leave the all repubs or all dem candidates blank.

The guy's bullet casings were all extremely online jokes

Anyway the Republican response to the shooting has been very typical

But they don't know who it is the immediate assumption is that it's "evil transgender leftist monster."

Then they find out it is an apparently cisgendered white guy who doesn't seem to have any obvious liberal connections

"Poor radicalized little boy... You probably wasn't really a republican he just voted that way but he was just needed a girlfriend and some hobbies and he would have been a normal guy"

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

America is over, deal. No one owes you respect. Quit lying to yourself about where the anger is originating, because it’s not gonna stop if you just scapegoat libs.

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

America is over, deal. No one owes you respect. Quit lying to yourself about where the anger is originating, because it’s not gonna stop if you just scapegoat libs.

I wouldn't say America is over, but there will have to be a lot of healing after four more years of a guy who tells his followers that the radical left is evil while the radical right is only radical because they hate crime so much.

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

Yeah sorry don't have any respect left for people who want to turn this country into a fascist dictatorship. If you want to acknowledge that you chose the wrong path then we can break bread. And guess what I actually do love this country enough to stay here and fight for it to make it a better place for my children, not just watch it slide into a third world hell hole.

If you are voting red or blue these days, you are voting for fascism (your word). You are as much of the problem as the partisan right. Own it. The extremes of the opposing sides use different tactics to shut down, exclude, opinions that differ from their platform.

The way you tackle the problem is sitting down with people and listening. Surround yourself with people with a diversity of opinions and thoughts. You aren’t going to de-program a racist buy calling them a racist. Have civil discourse without calling people names. I wish society

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Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?

I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.

America is over, deal. No one owes you respect. Quit lying to yourself about where the anger is originating, because it’s not gonna stop if you just scapegoat libs.

I wouldn't say America is over, but there will have to be a lot of healing after four more years of a guy who tells his followers that the radical left is evil while the radical right is only radical because they hate crime so much.

Loser to 3 more years left.

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

That seems rather fatalistic / anti-men.

I'm a married woman with a son and if anything I become more radicalized every day. Men should be born in jail and forced to live their way out via good behavior.

This is literally the best idea I’ve ever heard in my 41 years on earth.

I too am a mother of a boy, who at 10 years old, is already exhibiting all the traits of toxic masculinity, just like a smaller, less hairy version of my XH. I’m fully expecting him to grow up and ruin some woman’s life one day like his father ruined mine.

The problem is men. ALL men. I’m not a lesbian or misandrist by any stretch, but I definitely hate men. They ruin our world.

Wow. That is a lot of hate spewing from both of you. That should convince certain men to tone down their behavior. 👍 You should tell this site’s owner what a POS he is because he’s a man. SMH