Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What we know about Robinson
At the press conference, Cox said Robinson had become "more political in recent years."

Robinson mentioned during a dinner conversation with a family member that Kirk would be visiting Utah Valley University, according to Cox. Robinson and the family members discussed why they didn't like Kirk and his viewpoints, and the family member stated Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate," Cox said.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359

If the suspect was a MAGA, why did he think Kirk was spreading hate?

Perhaps because he was indeed spreading hate?

I have family members who are MAGA. They do indeed have a moral compass and are against the spreading of hate.

From the guardian Suspect's high school classmate says Robinson was the only 'leftist' in a family of 'very hard' Republicans
Anna Betts

In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.

The friend said that they played video games together a lot in high school and noted that the bullet engraving with the arrows was a reference to Helldivers 2 – which we mentioned earlier. He said that the arrows specifically were in reference to “calling in a big bomb that exists” in the game “called the 500 kilogram”.

When the friend saw the news on Friday, he said that he was shocked. “I knew he [Robinson] had strong political views, but I never thought it would even go near that far.”

The friend said that he has not spoken to Robinson in years and began to drift apart toward the end of high school. Another high school classmate separately told the Guardian that the friend and Robinson were close in school and would play video games.

Oh wow. A former high school classmate that hasn't seen him for years. Case cracked wide open.

So what evidence has the news reported other than this that you have read? Post the link.

Absolutely hilarious that MAGAs are trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

Absolutely hilarious democrats aren’t trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

They trust every anonymous source otherwise.

Democrats do not trust every anonymous source.

The source--if a liar trying to shape narrative--would indeed go to a left leaning paper to establish credibility

You think someone called the Guardian and said they knew the shooter and the Guardian didn’t make sure the source was legitimate?

All they could make sure of, in this quick turnaround moment, is that the person went to the same high school as the shooter. How on earth could the Guardian make sure that the classmate is still in touch with Tyler, or even was telling the truth about his political leanings? That's not verifiable information.

So why do you trust anonymous sources about Trump?

Bingo. These twits trust and promote any anonymous source who has something negative to say about Trump et al. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

and yet, MAGA's ignore the non-anonymous stories and books by named former Trump officials like chiefs of staff and cabinet secretaries who assert trump is a danger to the country

And MAGAs constantly take some complete rando or anonymous troll post and dishonestly portray it as "see, the libs are celebrating Kirk's death" and so on, INSISTING this is fact despite the reality that any Democrat who matters strongly condemned the shooting.

There is absolutely nothing in MAGA talking points on this message board being done in good faith.

And LWNJs don't do EXACTLY the same thing?? Please, spare us.
DP

No, they don't. Not all may agree with Dem policies, but they are not characterized by arguing in bad faith

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

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He was a mentally ill person who got caught up in the toxic political climate that many of us have been caught up in recently. Sane people who fall into the hate the other "side" trap post stupid stuff online or say things we wish we could take back at Thanksgiving. Manufactured hate can drive mentally ill people to commit murder.

You aren't agreeing with the PP you are making a completely different point. He may or may not be mentally ill. No one in politics told him to kill anyone.

He's a human who shot another human being in cold blood. He's mentally ill. If you disagree with this, you need to crawl back under your rock to stop embarrassing yourself.

Non mentally ill people kill all of the time. The definition of mental illness is not "committing the act of murder"

Yes, cops and soldiers kill people intentionally all the time. When someone pulls the trigger to murder another human being who is defenseless, unknowing, and not on the battle field during a declared war is mentally ill at the time they pull the trigger. All mentally ill people aren't cold blooded murderers but all cold blooded murderers are mentally ill. I can't imagine there being anyone on this forum with an IQ so low that they aren't able to comprehend the concept of mentally ill. Who is even dumb enough to try to make an argument against a cold blooded murderer being mentally ill?

This is not true according to law and science.

DP. Sincerely asking, how is that so. I think the question of mental illness in general is different than the standard in law of mental incompetence. Wouldn't you think someone who is convinced it is okay to murder another person in any circumstance that is not clearly self-defense could be considered sociopathic?

The mental illness spectrum as relates to criminality is complex, and it is polluted by our Puritan roots and longstanding preference for vengeance over mercy which prevents us to this day from acknowledging fully the neuroscience and psychiatry that explains most of the aberrant behavior we prosecute and incarcerate.

Sociopaths and psychopaths (of a kind, or not, depending on one's opinion) are fully aware of right and wrong - they just don't care, they want what they want. They are born with this disposition, this brain peculiarity that has genetic markers - and depending on the settings in which they emotionally and socially develop, they can become truly dangerous people or they can become CEOs and other high achieving humans - or like the guy who wrote the book about psychopathy in neuroscience, James Fallon.

Certain mental illnesses like bipolar, schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, post partum depression can manifest into states of psychosis wherein the sufferer truly doesn't know right from wrong or is incapable of resisting the compulsion to act in ways that violate the law. Back in the 60s/70s we were more accepting of this reality and gave hospital sentences and/or shorter carceral sentences but we have since backlashed wherein most even seriously mentally ill people who were probably psychotic at the time of the criminal acts are getting sent away for a very long time or life, not to hospitals but to prisons.

Add to the mix the personality disorders - incredibly difficult to treat, if you can even get the sufferer to acknowledge there's a problem. Capable in some cases of profound criminality, even on a massive scale. In the criminal justice world we call the narcissist who would make his family's life miserable a malignant narcissist (not a DSM term, a criminal one) because they victimize people on a far larger scale. Think Dirty John. Or think most of the strong man dictators you've read about or can see with your own eyes in the news every day from the worst places on the world stage. Typically these personality disorders are formed from traumatic childhood events or exposures to long term abuse. Do we mitigate our punishments knowing at some level the perpetrator is a victim of a brain defect over which they had no control?

To the extent that preserving life is a species instinct at the individual level, we think murder must always mean mental illness. But if the brain is formed differently, what is murder to you might look like self preservation - or the pursuit of happiness - to someone else.

A 22 year old's brain is not fully cooked. It is a very vulnerable age for the development of serious mental illness. Add to the mix the truly abhorrent toxic stew of the cancer social media and you have a recipe for disaster, as we keep seeing over and over and over and we are doing nothing of any real substance to save these obviously deranged young men who have been poisoned by what we allow Big Tech to expose them to. Yeah yeah yeah free speech blah blah blah - I sure hope they don't pursue the death penalty, it would be an exceedingly un-Christian thing to do and considering the victim and the location of the crime, the default should be mercy and an opportunity for redemption by spending natural life in prison.

It takes a village to raise a child, and modern day people now laugh at this phrase. People say, my child can do no wrong, and blame the other children, no one wants to take responsibility or accountability. My child, my rules… One major reason why there were virtually no mass shootings during the 20th century was because kids had a supportive village. The neighborhood kids in the suburbs, the city, wherever. We had each other’s backs, our moms or dads would help out other parents when needed. We had involved extended families close by who listened to us, had conversations with us, told us their life stories and experiences, taught us life skills, we had amazing involved teachers/mentors/coaches who weren’t afraid to develop close relationships with students. We had people who we KNEW loved us or at least cared about us. My kids are missing much of this now, neighbors barely know each other, everyone seems so afraid of everything now. No one wants so venture outside of their little bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:What we know about Robinson
At the press conference, Cox said Robinson had become "more political in recent years."

Robinson mentioned during a dinner conversation with a family member that Kirk would be visiting Utah Valley University, according to Cox. Robinson and the family members discussed why they didn't like Kirk and his viewpoints, and the family member stated Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate," Cox said.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359

If the suspect was a MAGA, why did he think Kirk was spreading hate?

Perhaps because he was indeed spreading hate?

I have family members who are MAGA. They do indeed have a moral compass and are against the spreading of hate.

From the guardian Suspect's high school classmate says Robinson was the only 'leftist' in a family of 'very hard' Republicans
Anna Betts

In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.

The friend said that they played video games together a lot in high school and noted that the bullet engraving with the arrows was a reference to Helldivers 2 – which we mentioned earlier. He said that the arrows specifically were in reference to “calling in a big bomb that exists” in the game “called the 500 kilogram”.

When the friend saw the news on Friday, he said that he was shocked. “I knew he [Robinson] had strong political views, but I never thought it would even go near that far.”

The friend said that he has not spoken to Robinson in years and began to drift apart toward the end of high school. Another high school classmate separately told the Guardian that the friend and Robinson were close in school and would play video games.

Oh wow. A former high school classmate that hasn't seen him for years. Case cracked wide open.

So what evidence has the news reported other than this that you have read? Post the link.

Absolutely hilarious that MAGAs are trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

Absolutely hilarious democrats aren’t trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

They trust every anonymous source otherwise.

Democrats do not trust every anonymous source.

The source--if a liar trying to shape narrative--would indeed go to a left leaning paper to establish credibility

You think someone called the Guardian and said they knew the shooter and the Guardian didn’t make sure the source was legitimate?

All they could make sure of, in this quick turnaround moment, is that the person went to the same high school as the shooter. How on earth could the Guardian make sure that the classmate is still in touch with Tyler, or even was telling the truth about his political leanings? That's not verifiable information.

So why do you trust anonymous sources about Trump?

Bingo. These twits trust and promote any anonymous source who has something negative to say about Trump et al. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

and yet, MAGA's ignore the non-anonymous stories and books by named former Trump officials like chiefs of staff and cabinet secretaries who assert trump is a danger to the country

And MAGAs constantly take some complete rando or anonymous troll post and dishonestly portray it as "see, the libs are celebrating Kirk's death" and so on, INSISTING this is fact despite the reality that any Democrat who matters strongly condemned the shooting.

There is absolutely nothing in MAGA talking points on this message board being done in good faith.

And LWNJs don't do EXACTLY the same thing?? Please, spare us.
DP

There is a difference between internet trolls of either political persuasion and political leaders. Every single damn time Trump says something stupid and outrageous, we hear about how this is how LWNJs think and point to some random person or celebrity. They never point to democratic politicians because they are not behaving that way.

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People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

Agree 100% we need to do better for ALL KIDS. Be an example, be a good listener. Be there for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are reporting misinformation. A family friend identified and called the FBI first NOT the dad. Hey fascist and catch fascist where on the bullets.

This is a combination of wrong and misleading. One bullet had the inscription "Hey Fascists! Catch!" followed by the up arrow symbol, the right arrow symbol, and three down arrows. You cannot divorce the words from the arrows. The arrows are a key code used Helldivers 2 to arm a large bomb. In the game, the player is a member of a militaristic regime (i.e. fascist government) who is battling aliens that the players call fascists. The phrase is a taunt of an enemy who is about get bombed with a large munition. The game is satirical and the irony in this is that the player is the fascist.

In context, "Hey fascist" does not indicate that Robinson is right-wing. It also does not indicate that he is left-wing. It simply means that he is deeply into Internet meme and gamer cultures.

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He was a mentally ill person who got caught up in the toxic political climate that many of us have been caught up in recently. Sane people who fall into the hate the other "side" trap post stupid stuff online or say things we wish we could take back at Thanksgiving. Manufactured hate can drive mentally ill people to commit murder.

You aren't agreeing with the PP you are making a completely different point. He may or may not be mentally ill. No one in politics told him to kill anyone.

He's a human who shot another human being in cold blood. He's mentally ill. If you disagree with this, you need to crawl back under your rock to stop embarrassing yourself.

Non mentally ill people kill all of the time. The definition of mental illness is not "committing the act of murder"

Yes, cops and soldiers kill people intentionally all the time. When someone pulls the trigger to murder another human being who is defenseless, unknowing, and not on the battle field during a declared war is mentally ill at the time they pull the trigger. All mentally ill people aren't cold blooded murderers but all cold blooded murderers are mentally ill. I can't imagine there being anyone on this forum with an IQ so low that they aren't able to comprehend the concept of mentally ill. Who is even dumb enough to try to make an argument against a cold blooded murderer being mentally ill?

This is not true according to law and science.

DP. Sincerely asking, how is that so. I think the question of mental illness in general is different than the standard in law of mental incompetence. Wouldn't you think someone who is convinced it is okay to murder another person in any circumstance that is not clearly self-defense could be considered sociopathic?

The mental illness spectrum as relates to criminality is complex, and it is polluted by our Puritan roots and longstanding preference for vengeance over mercy which prevents us to this day from acknowledging fully the neuroscience and psychiatry that explains most of the aberrant behavior we prosecute and incarcerate.

Sociopaths and psychopaths (of a kind, or not, depending on one's opinion) are fully aware of right and wrong - they just don't care, they want what they want. They are born with this disposition, this brain peculiarity that has genetic markers - and depending on the settings in which they emotionally and socially develop, they can become truly dangerous people or they can become CEOs and other high achieving humans - or like the guy who wrote the book about psychopathy in neuroscience, James Fallon.

Certain mental illnesses like bipolar, schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, post partum depression can manifest into states of psychosis wherein the sufferer truly doesn't know right from wrong or is incapable of resisting the compulsion to act in ways that violate the law. Back in the 60s/70s we were more accepting of this reality and gave hospital sentences and/or shorter carceral sentences but we have since backlashed wherein most even seriously mentally ill people who were probably psychotic at the time of the criminal acts are getting sent away for a very long time or life, not to hospitals but to prisons.

Add to the mix the personality disorders - incredibly difficult to treat, if you can even get the sufferer to acknowledge there's a problem. Capable in some cases of profound criminality, even on a massive scale. In the criminal justice world we call the narcissist who would make his family's life miserable a malignant narcissist (not a DSM term, a criminal one) because they victimize people on a far larger scale. Think Dirty John. Or think most of the strong man dictators you've read about or can see with your own eyes in the news every day from the worst places on the world stage. Typically these personality disorders are formed from traumatic childhood events or exposures to long term abuse. Do we mitigate our punishments knowing at some level the perpetrator is a victim of a brain defect over which they had no control?

To the extent that preserving life is a species instinct at the individual level, we think murder must always mean mental illness. But if the brain is formed differently, what is murder to you might look like self preservation - or the pursuit of happiness - to someone else.

A 22 year old's brain is not fully cooked. It is a very vulnerable age for the development of serious mental illness. Add to the mix the truly abhorrent toxic stew of the cancer social media and you have a recipe for disaster, as we keep seeing over and over and over and we are doing nothing of any real substance to save these obviously deranged young men who have been poisoned by what we allow Big Tech to expose them to. Yeah yeah yeah free speech blah blah blah - I sure hope they don't pursue the death penalty, it would be an exceedingly un-Christian thing to do and considering the victim and the location of the crime, the default should be mercy and an opportunity for redemption by spending natural life in prison.

It takes a village to raise a child, and modern day people now laugh at this phrase. People say, my child can do no wrong, and blame the other children, no one wants to take responsibility or accountability. My child, my rules… One major reason why there were virtually no mass shootings during the 20th century was because kids had a supportive village. The neighborhood kids in the suburbs, the city, wherever. We had each other’s backs, our moms or dads would help out other parents when needed. We had involved extended families close by who listened to us, had conversations with us, told us their life stories and experiences, taught us life skills, we had amazing involved teachers/mentors/coaches who weren’t afraid to develop close relationships with students. We had people who we KNEW loved us or at least cared about us. My kids are missing much of this now, neighbors barely know each other, everyone seems so afraid of everything now. No one wants so venture outside of their little bubble.

An even more relevant reason was the comparative lack of access to semi-automatic (or functionally so) guns.

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Anonymous wrote:We’re a bunch of gross, self absorbed bullies in the US. That’s why this is happening. We can’t give others the time of day, it’s all about me, me, me, gluttonous selfish pigs we have become.

That's a good start, but it's not just the U.S. The same behavior can be found all over the world.

The rest of the world doesn’t have quite the volume and diversity we have here along with gun worship and a lack of resources. We’ve become an all you can eat buffet where everyone is only out for themselves. Stepping over others as long as our needs and wants are met. Are we actually surprised that people are mentally broken? And I am talking ALL people.

It sounds like what you are really trying to do is argue that individualism has made American society selfish and violent, and that a collectivist or socialist approach would be healthier. The problem is you are not actually making that argument in a logical way. Calling Americans “gross, self absorbed bullies” or “gluttonous selfish pigs” is just a sweeping condemnation, not an explanation. It overgeneralizes and substitutes moral outrage for reasoning. If your point is that individualism leads to social isolation and violence while collectivism could address those issues, then you would need to show that connection with evidence and clear reasoning. Right now what you have is venting, which may express your frustration but it does not establish a cause-and-effect link or make a persuasive case for collectivism.

Collectivism did work back when there was such a thing as community where everyone knew the grocer, the butcher, the paperboy, the hairstylist, the cop, the banker, the doctor that still did house calls. We have neighborhoods now. We no longer have community

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Anonymous wrote:We’re a bunch of gross, self absorbed bullies in the US. That’s why this is happening. We can’t give others the time of day, it’s all about me, me, me, gluttonous selfish pigs we have become.

That's a good start, but it's not just the U.S. The same behavior can be found all over the world.

The rest of the world doesn’t have quite the volume and diversity we have here along with gun worship and a lack of resources. We’ve become an all you can eat buffet where everyone is only out for themselves. Stepping over others as long as our needs and wants are met. Are we actually surprised that people are mentally broken? And I am talking ALL people.

With limited resources and money, I almost see America getting increasingly more tribal and trying to protect their own group.

It’s happening, been happening for decades now. These murderers weren’t all born mentally ill. Mental illness can sometimes be brought on by stress and trauma, both of which most kids face growing up today, particularly with social media. Some people are more prone to mental illness. Maybe we need to be kinder to people, really. We need to reach out to people who seem to need a friend, kids and adults. Let’s follow the golden rule.

And they did not all become mentally ill.

I don't know what being kinder to people (that phrasing) is conveying.

There's a lot of artificial stress being pushed on kids with all of the divisive rhetoric. It's no surprise that some of them might crack.

But of course the right wing is going to keep on with the divisive rhetoric just like they've done every time before and will clutch their pearls when someone cracks, but still refuse to do anything about it. They've refused to address gun violence in America, deflecting to mental health, but then refused to address mental health in America other than to use it as a scapegoat. Rinse and repeat. This bullshit is getting people killed, and Charlie Kirk is just the latest victim. And ironically Charlie Kirk literally said "acceptable loss" when it was other people getting killed.

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

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Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

It’s so scary. Back in the day, we saw Muslim youth being radicalized in this way. Middle class kids with seemingly stable home lives would up and join Isis. You would see those stories and wonder what the heck happened. These were not your typical suicide bombers with nothing left to lose. They had bright future ahead of them. And now we are seeing this same type of radicalization across races. The ideology is irrelevant. The isolation, the hate, the cycling into despair- those are the common themes. Apparently our young men are susceptible.

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The fact that he appeared to be such a high achiever but ended up dropping out after one semester and pursuing a trade signals to me a mental illness issue. I went to a top 20 school and I remember distinctly two guys that I think had psychotic breaks. One was during his freshman year, he violated the student conduct code somehow and was kicked out of school, not sure what happened to him after aside from some slightly insane social media posting. Another happened in med school, probably in early 20s. Super smart guy, ended up dropping out and I saw some really insane social media rambling. This is exactly the age where schizophrenia pops up and I wouldn’t be surprised if something to that effect plus the toxicity of the internet is what happened

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Anonymous wrote:What we know about Robinson
At the press conference, Cox said Robinson had become "more political in recent years."

Robinson mentioned during a dinner conversation with a family member that Kirk would be visiting Utah Valley University, according to Cox. Robinson and the family members discussed why they didn't like Kirk and his viewpoints, and the family member stated Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate," Cox said.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359

If the suspect was a MAGA, why did he think Kirk was spreading hate?

Perhaps because he was indeed spreading hate?

I have family members who are MAGA. They do indeed have a moral compass and are against the spreading of hate.

From the guardian Suspect's high school classmate says Robinson was the only 'leftist' in a family of 'very hard' Republicans
Anna Betts

In a phone interview on Friday, someone who said they were friends with Robinson in high school, who wanted to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist”.

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them”.

The friend said that they played video games together a lot in high school and noted that the bullet engraving with the arrows was a reference to Helldivers 2 – which we mentioned earlier. He said that the arrows specifically were in reference to “calling in a big bomb that exists” in the game “called the 500 kilogram”.

When the friend saw the news on Friday, he said that he was shocked. “I knew he [Robinson] had strong political views, but I never thought it would even go near that far.”

The friend said that he has not spoken to Robinson in years and began to drift apart toward the end of high school. Another high school classmate separately told the Guardian that the friend and Robinson were close in school and would play video games.

Oh wow. A former high school classmate that hasn't seen him for years. Case cracked wide open.

So what evidence has the news reported other than this that you have read? Post the link.

Absolutely hilarious that MAGAs are trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

Absolutely hilarious democrats aren’t trusting an anonymous source in the Guardian.

They trust every anonymous source otherwise.

Democrats do not trust every anonymous source.

The source--if a liar trying to shape narrative--would indeed go to a left leaning paper to establish credibility

You think someone called the Guardian and said they knew the shooter and the Guardian didn’t make sure the source was legitimate?

All they could make sure of, in this quick turnaround moment, is that the person went to the same high school as the shooter. How on earth could the Guardian make sure that the classmate is still in touch with Tyler, or even was telling the truth about his political leanings? That's not verifiable information.

So why do you trust anonymous sources about Trump?

Bingo. These twits trust and promote any anonymous source who has something negative to say about Trump et al. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

and yet, MAGA's ignore the non-anonymous stories and books by named former Trump officials like chiefs of staff and cabinet secretaries who assert trump is a danger to the country

And MAGAs constantly take some complete rando or anonymous troll post and dishonestly portray it as "see, the libs are celebrating Kirk's death" and so on, INSISTING this is fact despite the reality that any Democrat who matters strongly condemned the shooting.

There is absolutely nothing in MAGA talking points on this message board being done in good faith.

And LWNJs don't do EXACTLY the same thing?? Please, spare us.
DP

Mike Lee and Charlie Kirk both joked about Mr. Pelosi's beating. Neither are randos like the people who are supposedly celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

There’s nothing you do can do as a parent. I think some men are naturally drawn to either religious fanaticism or extremist political violence. It’s certainly not something that just happens in America. It’s a tale as old as time. Men are drawn to violence

That seems rather fatalistic / anti-men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

Before women's liberation a woman was obligated to get married to have a place in society. They couldn't own property or get a credit card. Once women entered the workforce and were able to own their own houses they began to see marriage as a raw deal, which studies show it mostly is. Married women are the least happy demographic because most have to work outside of the home and do almost all of the housework and child rearing. They are opting out because they see how miserable most married women are.

This has created an entire generation of unmarried men who are not only single but being passed by in higher ed and the workplace. They sad and angry, but rather than turn inward and fix themselves they take their anger out on women. Why? Because American society is set up to tell both sexes that a man is a prize, that a woman is nothing without a man. That men should have their pick of women despite brining nothing to the table. The entitlement of the American male is woven into our dna.

This anger is starting to bubble up in these shootings and we're only going to see more and more of them because our entire society is set up to perpetuate the status quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People, mentally “well” young men are being radicalized online. They don’t have to be clinically depressed or anxious or bipolar. This boy was raised in a gun filled household, but no child is safe from these influences online.

Pay attention. Several of us have shared links and informative posts. Stop arguing and read them. YOUR boys are at risk too.

Learn about Gamer Gate.
Learn about Nick Fuentes.
Understand Pepe the Frog memes.
Learn about the other hate groups.
Educate your boys to stay away from this garbage.

Boys are being radicalized and desensitized. They are becoming racist, misogynistic, and violent even if you think you raised them differently. Talk to them about what they see online .

https://gnet-research.org/2022/10/24/extreme-right-radicalisation-of-children-via-online-gaming-platforms/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-15/alt-right-groups-video-games-radicalising-young-men-extremism/101212494


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2025/mar/24/video-games-cant-escape-their-role-in-the-radicalisation-of-young-men

It’s so scary. Back in the day, we saw Muslim youth being radicalized in this way. Middle class kids with seemingly stable home lives would up and join Isis. You would see those stories and wonder what the heck happened. These were not your typical suicide bombers with nothing left to lose. They had bright future ahead of them. And now we are seeing this same type of radicalization across races. The ideology is irrelevant. The isolation, the hate, the cycling into despair- those are the common themes. Apparently our young men are susceptible.

It has a lot to do with feeling othered or having others guilt or resentment pushed on to you. I think some white men feel othered or out of place in the dominant society due to messages of demonization or white privilege/straight white males being colonizers or evil/the patriarchy. Muslim males also have a similar issue where they certainly are othered and demonized. Same with black men. Even with trans.

When you’re thought to be “the problem”, you tend to internalize that and act out.

Women/girls are not demonized the way men are