Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Other thread is coming up on 450 pages, seems like time to put it out of its misery. I'll ask Jeff to lock it and we can have the same argument for another 400 pages here!

this made me chuckle!

i don't know why i expected to come here this morning and find anything other than hatred. still blaming meghan. smh.

Yes the racism is strong in these people. this will likely be the longest thread i ever make on dcum haha

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Just because people don’t believe Meghan, doesn’t make them racist. Every opinion isn’t veiled in racism.

You don't know why your opinion is or is not racist. You don't know how you might not even have control over your own opinion. Your language and social structures are controlling your opinions. Read up a bit, and stop showcasing your ignorance. Just cause my uncle thinks he is smart and not stupid, doesn't actually make him smart and not stupid!

You are gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Other thread is coming up on 450 pages, seems like time to put it out of its misery. I'll ask Jeff to lock it and we can have the same argument for another 400 pages here!

this made me chuckle!

i don't know why i expected to come here this morning and find anything other than hatred. still blaming meghan. smh.

Yes the racism is strong in these people. this will likely be the longest thread i ever make on dcum haha

-op

Just because people don’t believe Meghan, doesn’t make them racist. Every opinion isn’t veiled in racism.

You don't know why your opinion is or is not racist. You don't know how you might not even have control over your own opinion. Your language and social structures are controlling your opinions. Read up a bit, and stop showcasing your ignorance. Just cause my uncle thinks he is smart and not stupid, doesn't actually make him smart and not stupid!

It's apparent you see race in everything for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:This woman acts like she just escaped as a POW. While living in Tyler Perry’s freaking house. And then a $15M Montecito mansion. How embarrassing.

Omg. Give me a Dubonnet cocktail and afternoon tea. A long hike in the Scottish countryside. I would do just fine in a life of seclusion. They can say whatever they want about me. I’d go on living my best life in private. Kate can win. I’ll play bad cop.

Do you not realize that this is how Harry has spent the last 35+ years of his life? He went into the military because (1.) that was the only career allowed of him and (2.) he had drive and ambition. Do you not believe he chaffed at the monotony that you idealize?

To a person of ambition, whiling away at soggy castles and counting down the hours until your next meal is slow torture. My guess is that he married Meghan BECAUSE he didn't want to live that kind of life and wanted a wife who would support him in having a career.

You approaching this as a harried parent. Of course sending your kids off with nannies and having staff meal prep and handle the cleaning sounds amazing. Me too!

What is Harry’s ambition? To be a podcaster?

No they signed a 100m deal with netflix to develop docu series, films, childrens series. They also got paid 7m for last nights interview and are getting 1m for appearances. Podcasts are probably a hobby.

The podcast is because *everyone* (ha ha not everyone) is making podcasts now.
It's part of the various channels.
If you are a famous person, you have a brand. That brand is shared across as many channels as you care to handle:
instagram, tiktok, twitter, facebook, podcast, youtube, media relationships, movie and tv studios, website, email, etc. etc. etc.

They've chosen a podcast among their channels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

There is no place for that humor. you don’t get a pass because you’re older. It’s something that we need to stop perpetuating as being ok. Locker room jokes and all...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was Oprah believing or not? I didn't think she was that sympathetic but maybe I'm projecting. What did everyone think? To me, I felt she started losing the plot as the interview progressed, then perked up when Harry joined and redirected the conversation toward more specifics.

(also gag, of course the chickens are rescues, she rescues everything, including her husband, the stories just write themselves)

I thought she was sympathetic, but she tried to maintain some neutrality. I noticed she said “your truth” to Meghan.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you so desperate to trash on Meghan and Harry that you’re criticizing their outdoor furniture- joke’s on you, the interview was filmed at Gayle King's house.

The pathological hatred here seems to know no bounds. I can only imagine what miserable women you are off this board.

No it wasn't. Gayle King said it wasn't her house this morning on CBS This Morning. Let's get our basic facts right. Good grief

Fine, but the very beginning of the interview they both discussed that it wasn’t Meghan’s or Oprah’s home. Maybe the Foster’s, or some other friend.

But go on bitches, keep tearing down the outdoor furniture. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

Since they wouldn't post the receipts, we can't know the context. But having racism be part of the sympathy tour was essential, so it had to be in there even if it was not very specific. Hard to see the Queen or even Charles making such comments, more likely nasty courtiers is my guess.

Even more likely is genuine speculation as a few PPs have suggested. Agree they needed racism in the interview but without specifics hard to know what's what. They could have given more context without identifying the culprit.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

If you read the press and commentary from the "other side", they say this:

Kate didn't trust Meghan from the beginning. She thought it was all too fast and Meghan seemed too thirsty. And similar to the treatment that she herself received in her day, she took the position of "wait and see if this person earns my trust". She wasn't going to be fast friends with anyone unless she has observed Meghan over a period of time and judged her to be deserving of her trust.

It is not for nothing that you never read any comments from "friends of Kate" - because she vets her friends very carefully.

Plus, Kate sees her role as supportive of William above all else.

Meghan confused that with discrimination and racism.

And I'll say that Kate's judgment turned out to be not completely off base.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

If you read the press and commentary from the "other side", they say this:

Kate didn't trust Meghan from the beginning. She thought it was all too fast and Meghan seemed too thirsty. And similar to the treatment that she herself received in her day, she took the position of "wait and see if this person earns my trust". She wasn't going to be fast friends with anyone unless she has observed Meghan over a period of time and judged her to be deserving of her trust.

It is not for nothing that you never read any comments from "friends of Kate" - because she vets her friends very carefully.

Plus, Kate sees her role as supportive of William above all else.

Meghan confused that with discrimination and racism.

And I'll say that Kate's judgment turned out to be not completely off base.

She seems like a very clinical person overall. (Kate)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

No, I didn’t wonder if it was a joke. I did wonder if it was just someone from a good place genuinely wondering what the baby will look like? I totally wondered that about Archie myself! Im in a mixed marriage and we wondered that about our own beautiful baby! No big deal.

Agree. Big difference between “I wonder who he’ll look like, what color his eyes will be, his skin tone etc and Do you know what his skin tone will mean for the monarchy?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is very telling how deep racism is in America by posts here on dcum! You just don't get it! You are so blind to your own bias when it comes to race and race issues.

You truly think all your comments about Meghan are just that, not clouded by decades of being conditioned to view women, particularly Black women, as hysterical, irrational, and playing the victim.
I am saying this with all honesty and well intentions; please, please look into what racial bias is and how you are unaware of it. Once you start realizing what it is and how it manifests, I am hopeful that many here will realize that they truly didn't know they were engaged in it.
Because you were conditioned to think you are just telling it like it is.

But, racial power structures are so ingrained in the culture that you truly believe you are not saying or acting in a racist way, even when you are.
Even BBC is acknowledging that this must be addressed, but not the majority of white dcum.

Eh, no one views, for instance, Oprah as hysterical and irrational. Or Michelle Obama. Or Condoleezza Rice. You know, actual black women who have accomplished something and conducted themselves with dignity.

WTF are you talking about. Michelle Obama was portrayed as an angry black woman constantly and there was a ton of prejudice anti Oprah, the obese at the time black woman, as she rose up. I remember it quite well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

If you read the press and commentary from the "other side", they say this:

Kate didn't trust Meghan from the beginning. She thought it was all too fast and Meghan seemed too thirsty. And similar to the treatment that she herself received in her day, she took the position of "wait and see if this person earns my trust". She wasn't going to be fast friends with anyone unless she has observed Meghan over a period of time and judged her to be deserving of her trust.

It is not for nothing that you never read any comments from "friends of Kate" - because she vets her friends very carefully.

Plus, Kate sees her role as supportive of William above all else.

Meghan confused that with discrimination and racism.

And I'll say that Kate's judgment turned out to be not completely off base.

She seems like a very clinical person overall. (Kate)

And by clinical I mean insect like. I’ve never been a fan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

Humor, especially around color, is gone, banned from American society. There is no humor anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:The “you’re a racist if you don’t support Meghan” trope is truly exhausting. To whomever keeps relentlessly posting this please stop. You’re detracting from the conversation us non racists are having.

It is. Every person, no matter who you are, is subject to praise or criticism, neutrality or obsession.
This is a human experience.

YES, racism against blacks and others is prevalent.
YES, it should be examined and stopped.

But all people can be looked at, judged (hopefully, fairly), and debated.

This.
In this thread, we need to quit racism accusations. I get that some british media is so painfully and obviously racist. I understand they interacted with individuals who are ignorant to racist.

No one here criticising her is doing it because of her race.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

Humor, especially around color, is gone, banned from American society. There is no humor anymore.

The comedian J-L Cauvin just wrote about this. He is (1/4?) part Black.