US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy

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You are insufferable. Stop trying to gloat and come back in three months when the data will be more clear. Everybody knows what exponential growth is. Millions of Americans will not die from this.

DP. By the end of next week, we are on track to have over 10000 dead.

We don't have to wait 3 months to see catastrophe. It is here already.

If deaths double every three days we are headed for 8k deaths by end of week but more disturbingly 500k cases. Those increasing cases numbers fuel the death rate. In nine days we will have three doublings to a million cases. We are at the point where things are really bad but in another 7-9 days we will be in catastrophic territory.

Well your math was wrong. As of yesterday (April 5th) per the CDC, there were 304k cases and 7600 deaths. I even gave you an extra day on these predictions because “end of week” when you posted this would have been April 4th. But hey, 300k, 500k, what’s the difference?

Huh? We’re at 9700 dead now. Will cross 10,000 today.

Yeah today! But “end of week” when PP posted was April 4th. Not today. And we’re nowhere near 500k infected.

We don't know how many are infected because we still don't have wide scale testing

And if we did, it would probably show that the disease is far less deadly than we have been led to believe. We will never know how many were actually infected. It will be an estimate.

I refuse to engage in this round and round with death cult devotees. The point is that when someone says "we're nowhere near 500k infected" that person is wrong for epistemological reasons. We cannot know how many people are infected. There could be 20 million people infected for all we know.

And I know you think you're making some kind of "ah ha! gotcha!" point by saying we might learn that this disease is less fatal than we think - or fear - it is now. It would be fantastic to discover that this disease is less deadly than we feared! It would be FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE to be able to open society up again. But we CANNOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FLIPPING TESTING YOU NIMWIT.

In any case your "gotcha" works less well when New York City is literally burying the dead in public parks because there's so many they can't do anything else with them.

In short, go lick a doorknob.

Lol, a good and relaxed morning to you too!

We have plenty of examples from around the world, contemporaneous analysis and precedent from previous outbreaks. It is a judgement call, not a “more data” question at this point.

Also, CAPS JUST BECAUSE!!!

I said lick a doorknob. Good day sir.

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You are insufferable. Stop trying to gloat and come back in three months when the data will be more clear. Everybody knows what exponential growth is. Millions of Americans will not die from this.

DP. By the end of next week, we are on track to have over 10000 dead.

We don't have to wait 3 months to see catastrophe. It is here already.

If deaths double every three days we are headed for 8k deaths by end of week but more disturbingly 500k cases. Those increasing cases numbers fuel the death rate. In nine days we will have three doublings to a million cases. We are at the point where things are really bad but in another 7-9 days we will be in catastrophic territory.

Well your math was wrong. As of yesterday (April 5th) per the CDC, there were 304k cases and 7600 deaths. I even gave you an extra day on these predictions because “end of week” when you posted this would have been April 4th. But hey, 300k, 500k, what’s the difference?

Huh? We’re at 9700 dead now. Will cross 10,000 today.

Yeah today! But “end of week” when PP posted was April 4th. Not today. And we’re nowhere near 500k infected.

We don't know how many are infected because we still don't have wide scale testing

And if we did, it would probably show that the disease is far less deadly than we have been led to believe. We will never know how many were actually infected. It will be an estimate.

I refuse to engage in this round and round with death cult devotees. The point is that when someone says "we're nowhere near 500k infected" that person is wrong for epistemological reasons. We cannot know how many people are infected. There could be 20 million people infected for all we know.

And I know you think you're making some kind of "ah ha! gotcha!" point by saying we might learn that this disease is less fatal than we think - or fear - it is now. It would be fantastic to discover that this disease is less deadly than we feared! It would be FREAKING UNBELIEVABLE to be able to open society up again. But we CANNOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FLIPPING TESTING YOU NIMWIT.

In any case your "gotcha" works less well when New York City is literally burying the dead in public parks because there's so many they can't do anything else with them.

In short, go lick a doorknob.

Lol, a good and relaxed morning to you too!

We have plenty of examples from around the world, contemporaneous analysis and precedent from previous outbreaks. It is a judgement call, not a “more data” question at this point.

Also, CAPS JUST BECAUSE!!!

I said lick a doorknob. Good day sir.

Cry some more tears like this nurse

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1247164246116483072

[Anonymous]

African American share of the population:
Louisiana 32%
Illinois 15%
Michigan 14%
N Carolina 22%
Chicago 30%

Share of covid-19 deaths:
LA 70%
IL 42%
MI 41%
NC 22%
Chicago 69%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
You are insufferable. Stop trying to gloat and come back in three months when the data will be more clear. Everybody knows what exponential growth is. Millions of Americans will not die from this.

DP. By the end of next week, we are on track to have over 10000 dead.

We don't have to wait 3 months to see catastrophe. It is here already.

If deaths double every three days we are headed for 8k deaths by end of week but more disturbingly 500k cases. Those increasing cases numbers fuel the death rate. In nine days we will have three doublings to a million cases. We are at the point where things are really bad but in another 7-9 days we will be in catastrophic territory.

Well your math was wrong. As of yesterday (April 5th) per the CDC, there were 304k cases and 7600 deaths. I even gave you an extra day on these predictions because “end of week” when you posted this would have been April 4th. But hey, 300k, 500k, what’s the difference?

Huh? We’re at 9700 dead now. Will cross 10,000 today.

Yeah today! But “end of week” when PP posted was April 4th. Not today. And we’re nowhere near 500k infected.

We don't know how many are infected because we still don't have wide scale testing

And if we did, it would probably show that the disease is far less deadly than we have been led to believe. We will never knowii how many were actually infected. It will be an estimate.

Are you sure that all deaths are counted? If person does from atypical pneumonia without being tested for covid-19, that death are not counted either....

BTW, there were earlier reports that Italy did tested people who died at home for covid-19. I doubt States are doing that now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You are insufferable. Stop trying to gloat and come back in three months when the data will be more clear. Everybody knows what exponential growth is. Millions of Americans will not die from this.

DP. By the end of next week, we are on track to have over 10000 dead.

We don't have to wait 3 months to see catastrophe. It is here already.

If deaths double every three days we are headed for 8k deaths by end of week but more disturbingly 500k cases. Those increasing cases numbers fuel the death rate. In nine days we will have three doublings to a million cases. We are at the point where things are really bad but in another 7-9 days we will be in catastrophic territory.

Well your math was wrong. As of yesterday (April 5th) per the CDC, there were 304k cases and 7600 deaths. I even gave you an extra day on these predictions because “end of week” when you posted this would have been April 4th. But hey, 300k, 500k, what’s the difference?

Huh? We’re at 9700 dead now. Will cross 10,000 today.

Yeah today! But “end of week” when PP posted was April 4th. Not today. And we’re nowhere near 500k infected.

We don't know how many are infected because we still don't have wide scale testing

And if we did, it would probably show that the disease is far less deadly than we have been led to believe. We will never knowii how many were actually infected. It will be an estimate.

Are you sure that all deaths are counted? If person does from atypical pneumonia without being tested for covid-19, that death are not counted either....

BTW, there were earlier reports that Italy did tested people who died at home for covid-19. I doubt States are doing that now

I’m pretty sure that all deaths are NOT being counted. I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:African American share of the population:
Louisiana 32%
Illinois 15%
Michigan 14%
N Carolina 22%
Chicago 30%

Share of covid-19 deaths:
LA 70%
IL 42%
MI 41%
NC 22%
Chicago 69%

Social determinants of health.

[Anonymous]

Added almost 2,000 deaths today

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Added almost 2,000 deaths today

And? That was expected per the IHME model.

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Anonymous wrote:Added almost 2,000 deaths today

And? That was expected per the IHME model.

And? IHME is a prediction model based on past data. I am reporting real numbers. The real numbers tell us we did the worst job of all, 182 countries included. You might want to see the South Korean curve at the bottom. Both countries had their first case on the exact same date.

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And? IHME is a prediction model based on past data. I am reporting real numbers. The real numbers tell us we did the worst job of all, 182 countries included. You might want to see the South Korean curve at the bottom. Both countries had their first case on the exact same date.

You do understand that the US is more than five times larger than Italy in population?

[Anonymous]

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And? IHME is a prediction model based on past data. I am reporting real numbers. The real numbers tell us we did the worst job of all, 182 countries included. You might want to see the South Korean curve at the bottom. Both countries had their first case on the exact same date.

You do understand that the US is more than five times larger than Italy in population?

This has been explained many times in this thread. The population doesn't change the shape of the curve. The government's job is to bend the curve quickly as South Korea has done. UK has a similar population as South Korea's. Borris' government also did a terrible job.

[Anonymous]

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And? IHME is a prediction model based on past data. I am reporting real numbers. The real numbers tell us we did the worst job of all, 182 countries included. You might want to see the South Korean curve at the bottom. Both countries had their first case on the exact same date.

You do understand that the US is more than five times larger than Italy in population?

The chart shows number of days to reach a plateau. More days=slower response, regardless of country size. We did worse than any other nation on the chart, though UK might still beat us.

[Anonymous]

Diamond Princess still has 10 people in critical condition. Think about that....

[Anonymous]

It is ALL guesswork. All of it.

We have no idea how many people actually have the virus but didn’t get sick enough to warrant a test. We have no idea how much testing other countries are/were actually doing.

Truly. This is all uncharted territory and the stats can help guide a picture, but they are not the be all end all.

[Anonymous]

This article confirms what I had understood, that the Coronavirus was known to be a threat in NOVEMBER

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273


So, instead of preparing the US for the potential threat IN NOVEMBER, Trump spent months golfing, holding rallies, and when it became more public, calling it a political hoax that would disappear.

Worse, he was selling out our reserves of supplies without ordering replenishments.

Bottom line, he not only didn't prepare, he literally made it worse. American lives have been lost and destroyed, the economy is a shambles and the threats to our republic are grave.

This is not incompetence. Just the opposite, if you wanted to "burn it all down" as Bannon and Trump articulated in 2015, this is one way of doing it.