Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

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Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

Such a dumb perspective. It's like saying I prefer getting my sashimi from a landlocked state. Provincial hick logic.

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Anonymous wrote:These southern boosters have about the same IQ and reasoning ability as another group in a different forum on this site. Makes me wonder if many are the same people because they sound the same and either try to change the subject or do a nonsensical whataboutyou.

You mean the MAGA trash living in fact-free, alternate reality?

You sound like a lovely person.

I am.

And I have zero patience for the idiot a-holes trying to destroy our country.

How diverse is your neighborhood? What percentage of your kid’s school is on free lunch? If you can’t answer these questions then you’re no better than the people you hate.

Not equivalent in any way, but…

Mixed housing, including affordable housing
~30% FRM
<40% white

I was a little off in my demographics:
38% FRM
32% white
https://www.niche.com/k12/innovation-elementary-school-arlington-va/#students

https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Programs/Housing/Get-Help/Rental-Services/Affordable-Units

How far are the affordable units? Have you ever had them over for dinner?

Woosh - those goal posts!

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Anonymous wrote:These southern boosters have about the same IQ and reasoning ability as another group in a different forum on this site. Makes me wonder if many are the same people because they sound the same and either try to change the subject or do a nonsensical whataboutyou.

You mean the MAGA trash living in fact-free, alternate reality?

You sound like a lovely person.

I am.

And I have zero patience for the idiot a-holes trying to destroy our country.

Real liberals would go to the SEC and make it better. You’re just a hypocrite. You’re why Trump is president and young men love Charlie Kirk. Congrats, you’ve really effed up.

-liberal

Lol, no. Gaslighting POS.

Ohhh you can’t respond to my argument huh? Must have struck a nerve.

There was no “argument”. Just gaslighting BS.

Now you’re gaslighting

DP

OK, troll

Keep gaslighting, hypocrite troll

Gaslighting about gaslighting. That’s next level trolling.

We have Trump and Charlie Kirk because people are idiot a-holes. It’s not that deep.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Outdated mindset, boomer

I’m 23. You sound ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

Such a dumb perspective. It's like saying I prefer getting my sashimi from a landlocked state. Provincial hick logic.

Not everyone cares about ivies
Not everyone cares about ivies
Not everyone cares about ivies

Got it yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Outdated mindset, boomer

I’m 23. You sound ridiculous.

Yeah right.

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Anonymous wrote:These southern boosters have about the same IQ and reasoning ability as another group in a different forum on this site. Makes me wonder if many are the same people because they sound the same and either try to change the subject or do a nonsensical whataboutyou.

You mean the MAGA trash living in fact-free, alternate reality?

You sound like a lovely person.

I am.

And I have zero patience for the idiot a-holes trying to destroy our country.

How diverse is your neighborhood? What percentage of your kid’s school is on free lunch? If you can’t answer these questions then you’re no better than the people you hate.

Not equivalent in any way, but…

Mixed housing, including affordable housing
~30% FRM
<40% white

I was a little off in my demographics:
38% FRM
32% white
https://www.niche.com/k12/innovation-elementary-school-arlington-va/#students

https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Programs/Housing/Get-Help/Rental-Services/Affordable-Units

Which Arlington high school do your kids go to?

W-L

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Anonymous wrote:These southern boosters have about the same IQ and reasoning ability as another group in a different forum on this site. Makes me wonder if many are the same people because they sound the same and either try to change the subject or do a nonsensical whataboutyou.

You mean the MAGA trash living in fact-free, alternate reality?

You sound like a lovely person.

I am.

And I have zero patience for the idiot a-holes trying to destroy our country.

Real liberals would go to the SEC and make it better. You’re just a hypocrite. You’re why Trump is president and young men love Charlie Kirk. Congrats, you’ve really effed up.

-liberal

Lol, no. Gaslighting POS.

Ohhh you can’t respond to my argument huh? Must have struck a nerve.

There was no “argument”. Just gaslighting BS.

Now you’re gaslighting

DP

OK, troll

Keep gaslighting, hypocrite troll

Gaslighting about gaslighting. That’s next level trolling.

We have Trump and Charlie Kirk because people are idiot a-holes. It’s not that deep.

You’re still gaslighting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These southern boosters have about the same IQ and reasoning ability as another group in a different forum on this site. Makes me wonder if many are the same people because they sound the same and either try to change the subject or do a nonsensical whataboutyou.

You mean the MAGA trash living in fact-free, alternate reality?

You sound like a lovely person.

I am.

And I have zero patience for the idiot a-holes trying to destroy our country.

How diverse is your neighborhood? What percentage of your kid’s school is on free lunch? If you can’t answer these questions then you’re no better than the people you hate.

Not equivalent in any way, but…

Mixed housing, including affordable housing
~30% FRM
<40% white

I was a little off in my demographics:
38% FRM
32% white
https://www.niche.com/k12/innovation-elementary-school-arlington-va/#students

https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Programs/Housing/Get-Help/Rental-Services/Affordable-Units

Which Arlington high school do your kids go to?

W-L

Rich white school lol

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

Such a dumb perspective. It's like saying I prefer getting my sashimi from a landlocked state. Provincial hick logic.

Lots of people simply don’t give a shit about Ivy League schools. But don’t worry - I’m sure you’ll find plenty of brain dead morons who will be impressed by little Larlo’s tenacity in taking the SAT six times so Mommy and Daddy can spend half a million dollars to have him educated by TA’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

More like not enough schools. California has 9 flagship universities and 22 CSUs. Even if you don’t want to go there, you have the entirety of the Claremont colleges, Caltech, Stanford, USC, and Oxy. And that’s just if you want to go to a “top” college or CSU.

The pickings in California are slim. UC San Diego, UC Irvine are not "top" universities. They are solid ones, equivalent to a UMass or a UConn or a Georgia. The SAT's before tests being banned in California were around 1250-1350. Solid, but not top. So if you want something stronger than that, your options are UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, Claremont colleges, Caltech, maybe SLO or Oxy.

However, since Berkeley and UCLA admit only by high school, it is a lottery for a high stats applicant from a strong high school. Caltech and Claremont Colleges are small. Stanford is Stanford. So there is decidedly not the same range of schools available to the mid-Atlantic, northeast student population.

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Anonymous wrote:The title of the article is misleading. No one is considering SEC schools over Ivy League schools - except for Vanderbilt and some students that got awesome scholarships. The SEC is a sports league.

But I think the gist of the article is that above average students don’t like their options in the northeast. And schools like Georgia and Florida and Alabama and so on seem much more appealing than UMass, UConn, SUNY etc.

Which I think is a fair point.

Which makes sense. New England has a great scene for small colleges and private institutions, but the big public schools…well, they aren’t that great beyond certain programs (Umass CS, SUNY ESF, etc). The SEC schools do have a decent amount of top programs and resources as flagships, and the party scene and sports scene is great.

Now I don’t really believe there’s any concerning amount of students who were off to Harvard or Yale who suddenly discovered UGA was for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

Uh…no not at all if you’re top of the class- as suggested tbt this article that students are going from ivy->SEC. The top 6% automatically get into Ut- which has a 30% acceptance rate. Top 10% automatically get into A&M and has a 60% acceptance rate. It isn’t difficult getting into these schools if you’re ivy material.

You don’t get it. Not everyone cares about ivies. Kids in the south want a top flagship or southern ivy

No I do get it- I’m from Texas! This isn’t an abstract idea. Pretty much anyone with a pulse gets into A&M. Most kids who were progressive were UT Austin or bust and left the state.

Not true. A&M rejects 40% of their applicants and its ranking is pretty decent for publics. Not a bad school hey any objective measure. Of course, the freaks on this thread are anything but objective.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t be too much about sunshine- their own graph shows students pouring out in hordes from Texas and California

Too hard to get in UT and AM

More like not enough schools. California has 9 flagship universities and 22 CSUs. Even if you don’t want to go there, you have the entirety of the Claremont colleges, Caltech, Stanford, USC, and Oxy. And that’s just if you want to go to a “top” college or CSU.

The pickings in California are slim. UC San Diego, UC Irvine are not "top" universities. They are solid ones, equivalent to a UMass or a UConn or a Georgia. The SAT's before tests being banned in California were around 1250-1350. Solid, but not top. So if you want something stronger than that, your options are UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, Claremont colleges, Caltech, maybe SLO or Oxy.

However, since Berkeley and UCLA admit only by high school, it is a lottery for a high stats applicant from a strong high school. Caltech and Claremont Colleges are small. Stanford is Stanford. So there is decidedly not the same range of schools available to the mid-Atlantic, northeast student population.

You have many times the public options as northeast students. Boston isn’t much better when you consider the choices are literally Harvard, MIT, Wellesley, etc etc.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Alabama+at+Birmingham&with=Harvard+University

UAB isn’t Alabama. You people are so dumb lol you don’t even know your SEC schools and you keep citing stats for the worst ones. Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?

Run UGA against various schools…75% select Penn, 76% select Princeton, 78% select Brown. Those were the only Ivy comparisons where they had enough data for UGA.

For UF, 67% pick Penn. Thats the only Ivy comparison with enough data.

Did you honestly think it would be different?

That isn’t a reliable tool and you know it. Plenty of kids prefer the SEC. You should get out more, really.

It’s the most reliable tool there is and what PP was trying to refute.

Most kids don’t apply to both and even fewer kids are accepted to both.

You are the one who shit posts constantly on this thread…so talk about getting out more.

+1

Facts don’t fit the narrative.

What’s the narrative?

That there are tons of kids turning down Ivy League schools for UGA or UF.

Where was that posted?

“Too afraid to talk about UF and UGA huh?”

Where was “tons of kids turning down IVY League schools for UGA and UF”posted?

Context of the thread. Duh.

Or maybe we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

I’d say the kids going to UGA and UF don’t apply because they know the SEC is what they want. If they get honors they’re probably Ivy quality, just not what they wanted. This isn’t hard lol take some deep breaths

Great. So we all agree that the vast majority of kids are NOT turning down Ivy League schools for UGA and UF?

They don’t even apply to podunk ivies

They aren’t getting in. Sad.

They’re not applying to the Ivies because people in their social
Circles in the South didn’t attend Ivies or northeastern SLAC’s. They don’t care about those schools. It’s not considered a birthright or entitlement or badge of honor for a high stats kid to attend an Ivy.

High-stats kids covet high-ranked schools