Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:As someone without a dog in the fight for Oakton, the hate for Herndon residents advocating to stay there is pretty over the top.

Because demanding to be zoned to a specific school when there are closer schools is pretty eyeroll worthy.

Depends on where you live, not everyone is a Franklin farm person. It's a shorter drive to oakton for me than western.

There is no place in the Crossfield boundary that is closer to Oakton HS than the new Western HS, not even close.

Check the drive times.

Their drive time is not judged by you. If their parents do not mind the drive. Why would you?

Because some of the parents think the drive time is too long and want to go to the new school. Some parents are very devoted to Oakton regardless of the drive time. The schools population is divided, like every other school in this process. The Oakton split seems to be massive with the parents who want to move being worried about the social implications of loudly saying that they want to move and angering the families that want to stay.

It seems like many more are in support of staying.

Agree. It's hard to believe the claim that there's this great majority being pressured into silence by elementary school social dynamics. One or two social groups, sure. But a lot of people?

These boundary debates always devolve in the same manner. No one wants to be given what they perceive as a downgrade in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

As suspected, Meren was putting her own slant on the Western HS timeline in her newsletter. KMcDaniel's just came in my email:

Western High School Update
The new Western High School represents one of the most significant opportunities for Fairfax County in decades, and the first new public high school to open in nearly twenty years.

This acquisition is both strategic and fiscally responsible. Building a new high school in that area from scratch, which has been planned for years, was estimated to cost over $400 million plus an additional $150 million to acquire the land. By purchasing this property for $150 million, FCPS saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars and delivered a turn-key asset immediately. The facility will serve 2,000 students and is planned to open for the 2026-27 school year.

Community engagement is underway, and I wanted to thank those who have shared their feedback. Nearly 1,000 families and students attended the October 25 open house to tour the campus and hear firsthand the planning that is ongoing.

The Superintendent has recommended, and I agree with her recommendation, that the school be a “traditional” comprehensive high school with geographic boundaries to alleviate capacity and transportation challenges in the western Fairfax County communities.

Following extensive public comment, the Superintendent is also recommending that the window for public input be extended into the spring, after the ongoing County-wide boundary review process has completed. I agree with this recommendation as it allows more time for programming decisions to be made and for more public input on the boundaries. That being said, this would not change the planned opening for the 2026-2027 school year, and I would not support delaying the opening in any way.

Lastly, I have heard from several families regarding the phasing plans for the new school. These plans will ultimately be approved by the School Board, and my view is that they are generous and allow for opting into or out of the school for the first few years of its opening, with a very clear cut-off date for phasing. The boundaries are still being formulated, but I would anticipate impacts to Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, and Centreville High Schools. Please continue to reach out to me or your district representative with feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

Why do you assume that everyone only has older kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

Why do you assume that everyone only has older kids?

Because if they had younger kids they'd put a little thought into it and realize the decision for their younger kids is between the new Western HS or South Lakes. Oakton is off the table for us if you have just a few brain cells to rub together and look at what's coming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As someone without a dog in the fight for Oakton, the hate for Herndon residents advocating to stay there is pretty over the top.

Because demanding to be zoned to a specific school when there are closer schools is pretty eyeroll worthy.

Depends on where you live, not everyone is a Franklin farm person. It's a shorter drive to oakton for me than western.

There is no place in the Crossfield boundary that is closer to Oakton HS than the new Western HS, not even close.

Check the drive times.

Their drive time is not judged by you. If their parents do not mind the drive. Why would you?

Because some of the parents think the drive time is too long and want to go to the new school. Some parents are very devoted to Oakton regardless of the drive time. The schools population is divided, like every other school in this process. The Oakton split seems to be massive with the parents who want to move being worried about the social implications of loudly saying that they want to move and angering the families that want to stay.

There are a lot parents drive their kids to far away private schools. I value sports, so I would drive my kids to sports regardless the driving distance.

Some parents prioritize sports, others academics.I certainly respect other parents who has different priority than me. Whatever reason crossfield is addicted to Oakton, they are entitled to stay with their border unchanged.

If they are divided within, maybe the family want to stay stay, the family want to leave, leave. Not up to my call. But I respect those parents do whatever is best for their kids..

This is the same mom posting over and over. Probably the same mom who speaks for 10 minutes at all the community meetings.

I would ask her--what about those who want their kids to go to a closer school?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone without a dog in the fight for Oakton, the hate for Herndon residents advocating to stay there is pretty over the top.

Because demanding to be zoned to a specific school when there are closer schools is pretty eyeroll worthy.

Depends on where you live, not everyone is a Franklin farm person. It's a shorter drive to oakton for me than western.

There is no place in the Crossfield boundary that is closer to Oakton HS than the new Western HS, not even close.

Check the drive times.

Their drive time is not judged by you. If their parents do not mind the drive. Why would you?

Because some of the parents think the drive time is too long and want to go to the new school. Some parents are very devoted to Oakton regardless of the drive time. The schools population is divided, like every other school in this process. The Oakton split seems to be massive with the parents who want to move being worried about the social implications of loudly saying that they want to move and angering the families that want to stay.

There are a lot parents drive their kids to far away private schools. I value sports, so I would drive my kids to sports regardless the driving distance.

Some parents prioritize sports, others academics.I certainly respect other parents who has different priority than me. Whatever reason crossfield is addicted to Oakton, they are entitled to stay with their border unchanged.

If they are divided within, maybe the family want to stay stay, the family want to leave, leave. Not up to my call. But I respect those parents do whatever is best for their kids..

This is the same mom posting over and over. Probably the same mom who speaks for 10 minutes at all the community meetings.

I would ask her--what about those who want their kids to go to a closer school?

Not that mom, but people generally move inside the boundaries of the schools they want to attend. We're in a wierd time since schools don't pop up out of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

Why do you assume that everyone only has older kids?

Because if they had younger kids they'd put a little thought into it and realize the decision for their younger kids is between the new Western HS or South Lakes. Oakton is off the table for us if you have just a few brain cells to rub together and look at what's coming.

There's a ton of what ifs. You make it sound like it's a done deal.

Within south lakes current borders you have all of the development going on near the new metro stations which will expand their student population. There's a lot of cleared land around the metro with new condos and townhouses as well.

Who knows what a new board will do in the future let alone the composition of a new board.

Anyone with more than a few braincells might see this as increased density closer to south lakes builds up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

Why do you assume that everyone only has older kids?

Because if they had younger kids they'd put a little thought into it and realize the decision for their younger kids is between the new Western HS or South Lakes. Oakton is off the table for us if you have just a few brain cells to rub together and look at what's coming.

There's a ton of what ifs. You make it sound like it's a done deal.

Within south lakes current borders you have all of the development going on near the new metro stations which will expand their student population. There's a lot of cleared land around the metro with new condos and townhouses as well.

Who knows what a new board will do in the future let alone the composition of a new board.

Anyone with more than a few braincells might see this as increased density closer to south lakes builds up.

If Crossfield doesn't go to the Western HS now then Fox Mill will. South Lakes will have a ton of capacity in that case. Oakton is already projected over 100% next year. Someone else posted like 6 different very large residential developments already approved for the Oakton boundary a few pages ago - literally thousands of homes. The metro condos and townhouses pale in comparison and will yield fewer children per unit than developments further from metro. Oakton, Chantilly, and the new Western school will all be too full for Crossfield. Where do you think we'll end up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on guys! Crossfield is not asking to move to the new school like some SL family asked to move to the new school. All crossfield family is asking with no change for them and stay within boundary that they have been assigned to prior to this boundary review mass.

Why you guys hate crossfield/Oakton, no need.

The Crossfield people asking to stay are just trying to get their older kids through with no changes. Those of us with younger kids can see how Oakton will be overcrowded very soon and know our kids will have to get moved. We'd rather be at the new school than at South Lakes.

Why do you assume that everyone only has older kids?

Because if they had younger kids they'd put a little thought into it and realize the decision for their younger kids is between the new Western HS or South Lakes. Oakton is off the table for us if you have just a few brain cells to rub together and look at what's coming.

Do you really think Meren will support that? She's very anxious to shut this down, it seems to me.

There's a ton of what ifs. You make it sound like it's a done deal.

Within south lakes current borders you have all of the development going on near the new metro stations which will expand their student population. There's a lot of cleared land around the metro with new condos and townhouses as well.

Who knows what a new board will do in the future let alone the composition of a new board.

Anyone with more than a few braincells might see this as increased density closer to south lakes builds up.

If Crossfield doesn't go to the Western HS now then Fox Mill will. South Lakes will have a ton of capacity in that case. Oakton is already projected over 100% next year. Someone else posted like 6 different very large residential developments already approved for the Oakton boundary a few pages ago - literally thousands of homes. The metro condos and townhouses pale in comparison and will yield fewer children per unit than developments further from metro. Oakton, Chantilly, and the new Western school will all be too full for Crossfield. Where do you think we'll end up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None of the above... the school doesn't have a full set of fields and interior layout doesn't lend itself to a traditional high school. Instead of spending TENS OF MILLIONS more to make it a traditional high school, house a variety of specialty and choice programs and academies (fine arts, AI and data science, aerospace, early childhood, IB, etc.). Attendance doesn't need to be limited exclusively to Western HS but obviously will be heavily slanted that way (can even reserve a minimum set of seats for other Western HS to ensure their capacity is addressed, though I think self-selection due to travel times will address this sufficiently).

This provides the needed capacity relief to western HS, expands and diversifies FCPS' program offerings, and kids can continue to play sports at their base schools if they want that experience on top of the specialty programming.

Turning this school into a traditional neighborhood school would be squandering a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for FCPS.

You want the equivalent of a DC Charter School. Turning it into a school housing a variety of specialty and choice programs and academies (fine arts, AI and data science, aerospace, early childhood, IB, etc.) would be squandering a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for FCPS.

By that statement, FCPS should have opened South County as an opt-in site with a variety of special programs. SCSS opened with grades 7-11 for SY2005-06. SY2006-07 had grade 12. SY2023-13 the middle school opened.

This has a middle school, Carson. FCPS should clean up all the AAP MS shuffles and boundaries as part of this endeavor for Liberty, Stone, Rocky Run, Franklin, Carson.

Correct, I'm advocating that we learn from our mistakes rather than repeat them. The shortsighted one-size-fits-all approach, especially for a facility that was physically constructed in a unique way not easily compatible with a traditional comprehensive high school model, unfortunately seems to be full steam ahead.

LOL, no you're just "rooted in Oakton".

https://rootedinoakton.com/

Imagine that, they're using the phony, made up $60 million renovation cost number. The 'repeat a lie until you convince other people it's true' approach we're all familiar with.

Their website is FULL OF LIES. I will never donate to the Crossfield PTO ever again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None of the above... the school doesn't have a full set of fields and interior layout doesn't lend itself to a traditional high school. Instead of spending TENS OF MILLIONS more to make it a traditional high school, house a variety of specialty and choice programs and academies (fine arts, AI and data science, aerospace, early childhood, IB, etc.). Attendance doesn't need to be limited exclusively to Western HS but obviously will be heavily slanted that way (can even reserve a minimum set of seats for other Western HS to ensure their capacity is addressed, though I think self-selection due to travel times will address this sufficiently).

This provides the needed capacity relief to western HS, expands and diversifies FCPS' program offerings, and kids can continue to play sports at their base schools if they want that experience on top of the specialty programming.

Turning this school into a traditional neighborhood school would be squandering a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for FCPS.

You want the equivalent of a DC Charter School. Turning it into a school housing a variety of specialty and choice programs and academies (fine arts, AI and data science, aerospace, early childhood, IB, etc.) would be squandering a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for FCPS.

By that statement, FCPS should have opened South County as an opt-in site with a variety of special programs. SCSS opened with grades 7-11 for SY2005-06. SY2006-07 had grade 12. SY2023-13 the middle school opened.

This has a middle school, Carson. FCPS should clean up all the AAP MS shuffles and boundaries as part of this endeavor for Liberty, Stone, Rocky Run, Franklin, Carson.

Correct, I'm advocating that we learn from our mistakes rather than repeat them. The shortsighted one-size-fits-all approach, especially for a facility that was physically constructed in a unique way not easily compatible with a traditional comprehensive high school model, unfortunately seems to be full steam ahead.

LOL, no you're just "rooted in Oakton".

https://rootedinoakton.com/

LOL! Crossfield/Franklin Farm to Great Falls: "Hold my beer!"

“We are rooted in oakton!”—Herndon residents

I am a Crossfield parent and I've talked to a lot of people - none of us agree with this website. Even if people want their kids to stay at Oakton, they think the website is a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone without a dog in the fight for Oakton, the hate for Herndon residents advocating to stay there is pretty over the top.

That's because you don't know the people leading this "fight". They are truly insufferable and on such a power trip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As suspected, Meren was putting her own slant on the Western HS timeline in her newsletter. KMcDaniel's just came in my email:

Western High School Update
The new Western High School represents one of the most significant opportunities for Fairfax County in decades, and the first new public high school to open in nearly twenty years.

This acquisition is both strategic and fiscally responsible. Building a new high school in that area from scratch, which has been planned for years, was estimated to cost over $400 million plus an additional $150 million to acquire the land. By purchasing this property for $150 million, FCPS saved taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars and delivered a turn-key asset immediately. The facility will serve 2,000 students and is planned to open for the 2026-27 school year.

Community engagement is underway, and I wanted to thank those who have shared their feedback. Nearly 1,000 families and students attended the October 25 open house to tour the campus and hear firsthand the planning that is ongoing.

The Superintendent has recommended, and I agree with her recommendation, that the school be a “traditional” comprehensive high school with geographic boundaries to alleviate capacity and transportation challenges in the western Fairfax County communities.

Following extensive public comment, the Superintendent is also recommending that the window for public input be extended into the spring, after the ongoing County-wide boundary review process has completed. I agree with this recommendation as it allows more time for programming decisions to be made and for more public input on the boundaries. That being said, this would not change the planned opening for the 2026-2027 school year, and I would not support delaying the opening in any way.

Lastly, I have heard from several families regarding the phasing plans for the new school. These plans will ultimately be approved by the School Board, and my view is that they are generous and allow for opting into or out of the school for the first few years of its opening, with a very clear cut-off date for phasing. The boundaries are still being formulated, but I would anticipate impacts to Westfield, South Lakes, Oakton, Chantilly, and Centreville High Schools. Please continue to reach out to me or your district representative with feedback.

Yes, but doesn't Kyle McDaniel benefit financially from any aviation magnet program that gets added to this high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to stop calling "Crossfield families" "Oakton families. The vast majority of Oakton families aren't affected by this and don't care what happens with Crossfield. They will either leave now for the new school or be forced out at the next review. I'd prefer the leave now option just to avoid more future drama, but whatever.

The issue here is that it's not Crossfield families - it is FORMER Crossfield families whose kids go to Carson and Oakton. The vast majority of families with kids currently at Crossfield are excited about the new high school or are ambivalent.