Latest Viral Video Shaming - the Phillies' Karen

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Anonymous wrote:The least surprising part of all this is that *both* participants are Phillies fans. The aggressive Karen who demanded the ball, and the wuss father who gave it to her. She should have minded her own business, and he should have told her to eff off.

The whole fanbase is trash.

You’re calling someone trash for not telling a volatile person to eff off, in front of his kid?
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Anonymous wrote:I do not support public online mob behavior. It's gross.

She made a very stupid mistake. She lost her cool. Maybe she was drunk, maybe something else. From what I've read here in this thread, public brawls are not uncommon at Phillies games. You never hear about them. But let a woman have a screaming meltdown and she is eviscerated online for it.

At this point it's mob behavior. You all want a good old fashioned lynching.


Karen is called out for bad behavior, and it is equated to the literal murder of Blacks.

The absolute privilege.
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Anonymous wrote:The[u] Marlin fan would never behave that way


FIFY
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Anonymous wrote:The[u] Marlin fan would never behave that way


FIFY


LOL!!
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.

Right things to do:

-Prioritize your family’s safety

-Choose your battles based on what’s really important to you

-De-escalate encounter with confrontational stranger

-Not make physical contact with person who is looking for a fight

-Not not act like a spoiled child

Wrong things to do:

-Grab stranger’s arm

-Get up in multiple strangers’ faces and scream over something that’s not even important

-Gratefully accept ball taken away from child
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.

Right things to do:

-Prioritize your family’s safety

-Choose your battles based on what’s really important to you

-De-escalate encounter with confrontational stranger

-Not make physical contact with person who is looking for a fight

-Not not act like a spoiled child

Wrong things to do:

-Grab stranger’s arm

-Get up in multiple strangers’ faces and scream over something that’s not even important

-Gratefully accept ball taken away from child

One “not” too many
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.


In practice, if you give in to a bad actor, someone else isn't likely to come along fix it for you. You shouldn't give in to bullies in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:I do not support public online mob behavior. It's gross.

She made a very stupid mistake. She lost her cool. Maybe she was drunk, maybe something else. From what I've read here in this thread, public brawls are not uncommon at Phillies games. You never hear about them. But let a woman have a screaming meltdown and she is eviscerated online for it.

At this point it's mob behavior. You all want a good old fashioned lynching.[/quote]

Karen is called out for bad behavior, and it is equated to the literal murder of Blacks.

The absolute privilege.


The word/act of lynching applies to the concept of extreme mob justice, and it not just applied the horrors done to black people in the 19th and 20th centuries in the U.S.

Also notice I didn't say Blacks--not many are fond of that usage

--An AA person
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.


In practice, if you give in to a bad actor, someone else isn't likely to come along fix it for you. You shouldn't give in to bullies in the first place.


Are you slow? Once again, the bully didn’t win. This is how you outplay a bully.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.


+1. Correct!!
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Anonymous wrote:I do not support public online mob behavior. It's gross.

She made a very stupid mistake. She lost her cool. Maybe she was drunk, maybe something else. From what I've read here in this thread, public brawls are not uncommon at Phillies games. You never hear about them. But let a woman have a screaming meltdown and she is eviscerated online for it.

At this point it's mob behavior. You all want a good old fashioned lynching.[/quote]

Karen is called out for bad behavior, and it is equated to the literal murder of Blacks.

The absolute privilege.


The word/act of lynching applies to the concept of extreme mob justice, and it not just applied the horrors done to black people in the 19th and 20th centuries in the U.S.

Also notice I didn't say Blacks--not many are fond of that usage

--An AA person


All my Black friends in the school system where I work say don't call them AA. They prefer Black
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.


In practice, if you give in to a bad actor, someone else isn't likely to come along fix it for you. You shouldn't give in to bullies in the first place.


Are you slow? Once again, the bully didn’t win. This is how you outplay a bully.


If you play out a similar scenario 100 times, the bully wins in 95 of them. These situations usually aren't caught on TV.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


When you have children, don't engage with crazy.


Exactly. I agree that the dad did the right thing. You don't escalate things with a crazy person. Especially over something like a ball.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Dad give the ball to her?

To diffuse the situation. He didn’t want to fight over it. He just wanted his family left alone.


What would she have done? He should have just took it and left.


Why? He stayed and his patience and de-escalation skills paid off for his kid. I’m pretty sure his kids learned that way the right and wrong thing to do.


Reward the whiner and hope someone else makes it right? I'm not sure that's a good lesson.


What whiner? A crazy woman demanded a ball, made a scene, grabbed the dad, and he said “here ya go!” And took it out of his kid’s glove. Taught his kid that it wasn’t worth it. Meanwhile Marlines and Phillies management took it upon themselves to reward the family. Nobody asked them to do that and it certainly wasn’t expected. But look how doing the right thing paid off.


In practice, if you give in to a bad actor, someone else isn't likely to come along fix it for you. You shouldn't give in to bullies in the first place.


Are you slow? Once again, the bully didn’t win. This is how you outplay a bully.


If you play out a similar scenario 100 times, the bully wins in 95 of them. These situations usually aren't caught on TV.


Not anymore. Everyone is out with their phone now. You want to act badly, expect the viral shaming. Ask Phillies Karen and Polish CEO.
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