Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Democrats put themselves first and Republicans do not. RBG was asked to retire, should have retired but the progressives lashed out that asking her to retire when
Obama was President was disrespectful and sexist. For her part, she bought into her own “notorious” hype and told people that she wanted Hillary to replace her. We all know what happened next.

Kennedy, for his part, perfectly healthy but thinking he might want to retire relatively soon and reading the tea leaves that Trump might destroy the Republican party steps down and retires without drama to give a young conservative jurist a chance.

Compare and contrast.

This is an insane twisting of history, but a good example of why I very hope hope Larry Hogan loses in the fall.

What about it is inaccurate?

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Democrats put themselves first and Republicans do not. RBG was asked to retire, should have retired but the progressives lashed out that asking her to retire when
Obama was President was disrespectful and sexist. For her part, she bought into her own “notorious” hype and told people that she wanted Hillary to replace her. We all know what happened next.

Kennedy, for his part, perfectly healthy but thinking he might want to retire relatively soon and reading the tea leaves that Trump might destroy the Republican party steps down and retires without drama to give a young conservative jurist a chance.

Compare and contrast.

Yes, RBG should have retired. But notably you left Scalia out of your narrative. The fact is that when someone gets to the pinnacle of their career, it is tough for them to know when it is time to move on and let someone take their place. The bottom line is that Hogan could well tip the balance in the Senate, so if people dislike the Supreme Court, it is incongruous to vote for Hogan.

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Ex-GOP Gov. Hogan is popular with some Maryland Democrats, but not enough to put him in the Senate
https://apnews.com/article/maryland-senate-democratic-primary-hogan-trone-alsobrooks-8bdc16f6bbac18623d64cb65bf4172f1?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

Here’s the thing though, the SC has now become such a political body that the justices’ retirement decisions will be informed by the political climate. I also think given what happened when Scalia and RBG passed away prior to retirement, the justices will be more cognizant of that. If there is a Trump victory in November I would expect Thomas and/or Alito to think about retiring early in that term, but if Biden wins they will obviously stay and the conservative majority hinges not so much on the makeup of the Senate but on their continued health. If Sotomayor really is ill and Biden wins, I would similarly expect her to consider retirement early in that term. Where I think we need more politicians like Hogan is that we cannot have SC vacancies languishing unfilled when the Senate is controlled by a different party than the president, there is give and take and moderation required in those circumstances.

I think you give way too much credit to the justices. I don't think they will plan their retirements based on who is president, and even if that is their intent, you just don't know when your life is going to end. So it is very much a possibility that some of these positions will change political parties, and it is very conceivable that democrats could gain a 5-4 majority with Biden and a democratic-controlled senate.

In the past, they probably didn’t have that foremost in their minds, but in today’s world it will be front and center. You really think Thomas or Alito will retire under a Dem president, not a chance in hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan = Republican = Christian Nationalism = Project 2025

absolutely no to voting for one Republican ever again.

Signed Ex Republican

Republicans are not Americans they are treasonous snakes.

Yeah I really find Mitt Romney and Adam Kinzinger to be reprehensible 🙄

Are they on the ballot this year?

I am a DP but pretty sure PP meant elected officials not every single person in America who is registered as a Republican.

Did you read what the PP posted? “Republicans are not Americans they are treasonous snakes.” That poster has also been all over this thread saying things like if you vote for a Republican you are not an American.

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Democrats put themselves first and Republicans do not. RBG was asked to retire, should have retired but the progressives lashed out that asking her to retire when
Obama was President was disrespectful and sexist. For her part, she bought into her own “notorious” hype and told people that she wanted Hillary to replace her. We all know what happened next.

Kennedy, for his part, perfectly healthy but thinking he might want to retire relatively soon and reading the tea leaves that Trump might destroy the Republican party steps down and retires without drama to give a young conservative jurist a chance.

Compare and contrast.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Mitch McConnell and the Republicans blocked Merrick Garland, Mitch McConnell and the Republicans rammed through Brett Kavanaugh, and Mitch McConnell and the Republicans rammed through Amy Coney Barrett.

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Democrats put themselves first and Republicans do not. RBG was asked to retire, should have retired but the progressives lashed out that asking her to retire when
Obama was President was disrespectful and sexist. For her part, she bought into her own “notorious” hype and told people that she wanted Hillary to replace her. We all know what happened next.

Kennedy, for his part, perfectly healthy but thinking he might want to retire relatively soon and reading the tea leaves that Trump might destroy the Republican party steps down and retires without drama to give a young conservative jurist a chance.

Compare and contrast.

Yes, RBG should have retired. But notably you left Scalia out of your narrative. The fact is that when someone gets to the pinnacle of their career, it is tough for them to know when it is time to move on and let someone take their place. The bottom line is that Hogan could well tip the balance in the Senate, so if people dislike the Supreme Court, it is incongruous to vote for Hogan.

What balance is there to tip? The court is already 6-3. You need to update your talking points.

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Anonymous wrote:Ex-GOP Gov. Hogan is popular with some Maryland Democrats, but not enough to put him in the Senate
https://apnews.com/article/maryland-senate-democratic-primary-hogan-trone-alsobrooks-8bdc16f6bbac18623d64cb65bf4172f1?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

my whole family are Democrats for generations but we’re all Hogan fans

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Anonymous wrote:Ex-GOP Gov. Hogan is popular with some Maryland Democrats, but not enough to put him in the Senate
https://apnews.com/article/maryland-senate-democratic-primary-hogan-trone-alsobrooks-8bdc16f6bbac18623d64cb65bf4172f1?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

my whole family are Democrats for generations but we’re all Hogan fans

Yeah! Let’s put him in the senate baby. He’s a moderate, it will be fine!

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Anonymous wrote:Ex-GOP Gov. Hogan is popular with some Maryland Democrats, but not enough to put him in the Senate
https://apnews.com/article/maryland-senate-democratic-primary-hogan-trone-alsobrooks-8bdc16f6bbac18623d64cb65bf4172f1?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

my whole family are Democrats for generations but we’re all Hogan fans

My mom lives in Howard County and she liked Hogan so I was curious to know who she was going to support. She said she likes Trone best but she will vote for whichever D wins. There was no way she is going to vote for a pro life republican. Shoo!

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

Here’s the thing though, the SC has now become such a political body that the justices’ retirement decisions will be informed by the political climate. I also think given what happened when Scalia and RBG passed away prior to retirement, the justices will be more cognizant of that. If there is a Trump victory in November I would expect Thomas and/or Alito to think about retiring early in that term, but if Biden wins they will obviously stay and the conservative majority hinges not so much on the makeup of the Senate but on their continued health. If Sotomayor really is ill and Biden wins, I would similarly expect her to consider retirement early in that term. Where I think we need more politicians like Hogan is that we cannot have SC vacancies languishing unfilled when the Senate is controlled by a different party than the president, there is give and take and moderation required in those circumstances.

If Hogan wins and Republicans control the senate, no Biden nominee will ever get a vote. Even if it means the Supreme Court has only 8 justices for 4 years. And it wouldn’t matter whether it was a liberal or a conservative justice being replaced. The standard now is that you have to have both the presidency AND a senate majority to get a SC Justice confirmed. Hogan’s presence in the senate will not change this rule.

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

The reason we have the Supreme Court we have today is because Democrats put themselves first and Republicans do not. RBG was asked to retire, should have retired but the progressives lashed out that asking her to retire when
Obama was President was disrespectful and sexist. For her part, she bought into her own “notorious” hype and told people that she wanted Hillary to replace her. We all know what happened next.

Kennedy, for his part, perfectly healthy but thinking he might want to retire relatively soon and reading the tea leaves that Trump might destroy the Republican party steps down and retires without drama to give a young conservative jurist a chance.

Compare and contrast.

Yes, RBG should have retired. But notably you left Scalia out of your narrative. The fact is that when someone gets to the pinnacle of their career, it is tough for them to know when it is time to move on and let someone take their place. The bottom line is that Hogan could well tip the balance in the Senate, so if people dislike the Supreme Court, it is incongruous to vote for Hogan.

What balance is there to tip? The court is already 6-3. You need to update your talking points.

If Thomas and Alito pass away (the two oldest justices), it can go 5-4 in the other direction. But we need a democratic administration and senate for it to happen. Talking points updated.

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

Here’s the thing though, the SC has now become such a political body that the justices’ retirement decisions will be informed by the political climate. I also think given what happened when Scalia and RBG passed away prior to retirement, the justices will be more cognizant of that. If there is a Trump victory in November I would expect Thomas and/or Alito to think about retiring early in that term, but if Biden wins they will obviously stay and the conservative majority hinges not so much on the makeup of the Senate but on their continued health. If Sotomayor really is ill and Biden wins, I would similarly expect her to consider retirement early in that term. Where I think we need more politicians like Hogan is that we cannot have SC vacancies languishing unfilled when the Senate is controlled by a different party than the president, there is give and take and moderation required in those circumstances.

If Hogan wins and Republicans control the senate, no Biden nominee will ever get a vote. Even if it means the Supreme Court has only 8 justices for 4 years. And it wouldn’t matter whether it was a liberal or a conservative justice being replaced. The standard now is that you have to have both the presidency AND a senate majority to get a SC Justice confirmed. Hogan’s presence in the senate will not change this rule.

I don’t know if that is true. There were 3 Republicans that voted in favor of Judge Brown Jackson. We’ve never had vacancies in the SC languish for 4 years before.

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my whole family are Democrats for generations but we’re all Hogan fans

Yeah! Let’s put him in the senate baby. He’s a moderate, it will be fine!

He won't continue to be a moderate if he gets to the Senate. He's going to vote the same as all the other cult Republicans. Voting for any Republican these days is a vote against Democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:He will not win.

It’s going to be hilarious to see the Moco partisans have conniption fits when there’s Senator Trone representing Maryland.

In fact, the reason they are all supporting Alsobrooks is a bit strategic because they know she’s going to lose to Trone and that Trone will lose to Hogan. So they plan to blame the loss on Trone “buying” the primary despite the fact that obviously Alsobrooks would lose in the general even worse.

Maryland is absolutely synonymous with craven politicians.

Polls show both Alsobrooks and Trone ahead of Hogan in a head to head.

Interesting. I have only seen polls with Hogan maintaining a solid lead. But I do suspect the polls will tighten after the primary and that either D has a good chance. Hogan is popular and also has a good chance, but I think it’s a very tall order for that many crossover votes in a presidential election.

Maryland, interestingly enough, is the only state where Biden has been consistently above water in popularity. Maryland voters - which, like it or not, are highly concentrated between I-495, I-95, and I-270, LOVE Biden for what he is: an establishment Democrat.
Hogan’s popularity vs. Maryland’s partisan leaning is fairly evenly matched. I would still say slight edge to the Democrats because the informed voter base is not going to send an R to the Senate. My guess will be D+2 in the end.

In 2018, Hogan won reelection 55-45. In 2020, Biden won Maryland 65-35.

Lots of voters are more than comfortable voting for both Hogan and Biden without flinching.

FWIW I’m one of those voters. Governor is low risk, which I understood. The United States Senate is completely different. It’s a team game and the stakes are much much higher. There’s no chance I would for Hogan as senator. I assume other Democrats feel similarly but I guess we’ll find out on Election Day.

I’m also one of the voters and will be voting Hogan. Ever since Murkowski retired, Maryland has not had Senators that have been out to aggressively serve the state of Maryland. You can see what a difference engaged Senators make for a state when you see Kaine and Warner going to the mat every day for Virginia.

If we want Maryland to be a success we need to vote for people committed to making Maryland successful. Hogan has been that person and will continue to have to be that person representing us in the Senate. You cannot say the same at all for Alsobrooks or Trone.

So we shouldn’t worry about the Trump SC justice Hogan will confirm who will serve for the next half century?

It’s pretty clear at this point that you are very worried about it and it is your number one issue. Shocking though it may be, not everyone shares your mindset no matter how many times you repeat it.

I think many people have learned a hard lesson over the past few years that nothing a senator does is more important than confirming Supreme Court justices.

I hate to inform you but the horse has already left the stables on that one.

So people should just give up because there are never going to be any vacancies ever again? On any level of the federal judiciary?

Democrats have no plan or strategy except to continue scaremongering. But the court is already 6-3. Hogan did not do that and Hogan will not be the reason it would go to 7-2.

Has he promised to not vote for Trump nominees if elected?

This is not a litmus test for me. He’s a Republican, I don’t expect him to act like a Democrat. Are you under the mistaken impression the moderates that support Hogan think he’s going to be in lock step with Democrats?

I think lots of moderates don't understand how we got to the Supreme Court we got today. I blame Democrats for lots of that -- I don't think it's enough to say that the Supreme Court is terrible. You need to explain that the Republican majority in the Senate helped get Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch on the court, resulting in a 6-3 court, and the only hope for reversing this is a Democratic controlled Senate.

So people might say, "I'm a moderate, and I like Hogan because he's moderate too." And if Democrats allow that line of thinking, without drawing the connection to the Supreme Court, Hogan will win.

Here’s the thing though, the SC has now become such a political body that the justices’ retirement decisions will be informed by the political climate. I also think given what happened when Scalia and RBG passed away prior to retirement, the justices will be more cognizant of that. If there is a Trump victory in November I would expect Thomas and/or Alito to think about retiring early in that term, but if Biden wins they will obviously stay and the conservative majority hinges not so much on the makeup of the Senate but on their continued health. If Sotomayor really is ill and Biden wins, I would similarly expect her to consider retirement early in that term. Where I think we need more politicians like Hogan is that we cannot have SC vacancies languishing unfilled when the Senate is controlled by a different party than the president, there is give and take and moderation required in those circumstances.

If Hogan wins and Republicans control the senate, no Biden nominee will ever get a vote. Even if it means the Supreme Court has only 8 justices for 4 years. And it wouldn’t matter whether it was a liberal or a conservative justice being replaced. The standard now is that you have to have both the presidency AND a senate majority to get a SC Justice confirmed. Hogan’s presence in the senate will not change this rule.

I don’t know if that is true. There were 3 Republicans that voted in favor of Judge Brown Jackson. We’ve never had vacancies in the SC languish for 4 years before.

That was only because the vote was a forgone conclusion. No Republican would ever provide the deciding vote for a Biden nominee. And no Republican senate majority leader will allow a vote on a Biden nominee, no matter how much people complain about how unfair it is.