VA Revolution has purchased Evergreen Sportsplex

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Anonymous wrote:If FCV and Barca are hurt by this, then I wonder if Loudoun Soccer helped finance the purchase.

This. Takes out Loudoun's main competitors.

Right, I’m sure these other clubs with hundreds of paying parents will just close up shop because the fields come under new owners. No way they could negotiate to use a couple of the fields. There are other fields you know. Money solves these problems

Just hundreds? These clubs are that small?

Yes, Barca and FCV are small clubs. Certainly small compared to Loudoun Soccer. I’m always amazed at the outsize attention they seem to attract on this board given their relative size. I have had kids play in all of these clubs at different times. Barca has around 30 odd teams, maybe 500 players. FCV has even less, only girls, I’d guess around 300 players. Loudoun has something like 10,000 players between rec and travel.

Loudoun Soccer can and has used their fields. Also, lacrosse, field hockey, football, etc. Its not just used for soccer. It is not limited to Barca and FCV. Could be a cool outdoor concert venue too (like Segra could be), political rallies, camps, outdoor movie nights, adult sport leagues, etc. but there appears to be no imagination by these owners. Loudoun is one of the richest counties in the country, with lots of bored families and people looking to spend their disposable income. Anyhow ... I'd hope these new investors don't limit use to VAR soccer. What a waste that would be. And ... if it all fails to turn enough cash flow, then sell it toi a developer.

They can do all of those things AND kick out a competing soccer club.

The growth opportunity for Virginia Revolution is in cutting into Loudoun’s market share. Loudoun has about 100 travel teams plus a huge feeder rec league, Barca has ~35 teams, FCV (in Loudoun) has ~15. If they told FCV to get lost tomorrow, FCV’s GA players either move w/ FCV to another location or to another ECNL/GA club. The non-GA teams don’t use Evergreen much...so it’s small potatoes. Barca is bigger, so if VRSC ran them off, they’d pick up some players, but a lot of people are at Barca for the brand/style of play, so a good number go elsewhere.

They’ll need to figure out both 1) how better to monetize Evergreen and 2) how to grow VRSC’s rec program so that it can be a better feeder to the travel program and qualify for more County space...ultimately cutting into Loudoun’s market share.

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Have to give those guys some credit. Started 3 years back and now have ~20 teams in NCSL and a few in EDP. Now this facility. Getting a new travel soccer club off the ground in this overcrowded market is not easy.

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Anonymous wrote:If FCV and Barca are hurt by this, then I wonder if Loudoun Soccer helped finance the purchase.

This. Takes out Loudoun's main competitors.

Right, I’m sure these other clubs with hundreds of paying parents will just close up shop because the fields come under new owners. No way they could negotiate to use a couple of the fields. There are other fields you know. Money solves these problems

Just hundreds? These clubs are that small?

Yes, Barca and FCV are small clubs. Certainly small compared to Loudoun Soccer. I’m always amazed at the outsize attention they seem to attract on this board given their relative size. I have had kids play in all of these clubs at different times. Barca has around 30 odd teams, maybe 500 players. FCV has even less, only girls, I’d guess around 300 players. Loudoun has something like 10,000 players between rec and travel.

Loudoun Soccer can and has used their fields. Also, lacrosse, field hockey, football, etc. Its not just used for soccer. It is not limited to Barca and FCV. Could be a cool outdoor concert venue too (like Segra could be), political rallies, camps, outdoor movie nights, adult sport leagues, etc. but there appears to be no imagination by these owners. Loudoun is one of the richest counties in the country, with lots of bored families and people looking to spend their disposable income. Anyhow ... I'd hope these new investors don't limit use to VAR soccer. What a waste that would be. And ... if it all fails to turn enough cash flow, then sell it toi a developer.

Loudoun is one of the richest counties in the country, why does the county not build a huge sportsplex and rent out field space ?

Great question. They are way behind neighboring counties in terms of turf fields.

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Anonymous wrote:Have to give those guys some credit. Started 3 years back and now have ~20 teams in NCSL and a few in EDP. Now this facility. Getting a new travel soccer club off the ground in this overcrowded market is not easy.

Agreed. Heard they are in discussions to partner with FCV for GA access

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Anonymous wrote:Have to give those guys some credit. Started 3 years back and now have ~20 teams in NCSL and a few in EDP. Now this facility. Getting a new travel soccer club off the ground in this overcrowded market is not easy.

Agreed. Heard they are in discussions to partner with FCV for GA access

It doesn't really matter but where did you hear that from?

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Heard they are in discussions to partner with FCV for GA access

They already have GA access as a MU partner club.

https://metroutd.org/ Logo right there on the front page.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Heard they are in discussions to partner with FCV for GA access

They already have GA access as a MU partner club.

https://metroutd.org/ Logo right there on the front page.

More of a merger than partner.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Heard they are in discussions to partner with FCV for GA access

They already have GA access as a MU partner club.

https://metroutd.org/ Logo right there on the front page.

More of a merger than partner.

Well, we can safely discount that as a rumor then because the egos of the guys running both of those clubs could never coexist.

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Anonymous wrote:If FCV and Barca are hurt by this, then I wonder if Loudoun Soccer helped finance the purchase.

This. Takes out Loudoun's main competitors.

Right, I’m sure these other clubs with hundreds of paying parents will just close up shop because the fields come under new owners. No way they could negotiate to use a couple of the fields. There are other fields you know. Money solves these problems

Just hundreds? These clubs are that small?

Yes, Barca and FCV are small clubs. Certainly small compared to Loudoun Soccer. I’m always amazed at the outsize attention they seem to attract on this board given their relative size. I have had kids play in all of these clubs at different times. Barca has around 30 odd teams, maybe 500 players. FCV has even less, only girls, I’d guess around 300 players. Loudoun has something like 10,000 players between rec and travel.

Loudoun Soccer can and has used their fields. Also, lacrosse, field hockey, football, etc. Its not just used for soccer. It is not limited to Barca and FCV. Could be a cool outdoor concert venue too (like Segra could be), political rallies, camps, outdoor movie nights, adult sport leagues, etc. but there appears to be no imagination by these owners. Loudoun is one of the richest counties in the country, with lots of bored families and people looking to spend their disposable income. Anyhow ... I'd hope these new investors don't limit use to VAR soccer. What a waste that would be. And ... if it all fails to turn enough cash flow, then sell it toi a developer.

They can do all of those things AND kick out a competing soccer club.

The growth opportunity for Virginia Revolution is in cutting into Loudoun’s market share. Loudoun has about 100 travel teams plus a huge feeder rec league, Barca has ~35 teams, FCV (in Loudoun) has ~15. If they told FCV to get lost tomorrow, FCV’s GA players either move w/ FCV to another location or to another ECNL/GA club. The non-GA teams don’t use Evergreen much...so it’s small potatoes. Barca is bigger, so if VRSC ran them off, they’d pick up some players, but a lot of people are at Barca for the brand/style of play, so a good number go elsewhere.

They’ll need to figure out both 1) how better to monetize Evergreen and 2) how to grow VRSC’s rec program so that it can be a better feeder to the travel program and qualify for more County space...ultimately cutting into Loudoun’s market share.

BINGO... We're not at Barça for the top team league branding or the prestige of kick-balling our way to victory... We're there for the development and method of play. Barça's teams sometimes lose dumb games when they make mistakes in the back. Any 6', 180LB American™ boy can revert to "track meet" kick ball style soccer on a dime...

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We have familiarity with the new director of Revolution. Style of play will be...... interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:judging by the press release it wasn't purchased by "the club" per se, but by a wealthy group of parents/investors who i assume have kids in the club. who wouldn't want to play for a youth club controlled by wealthy investors?

What press release?

https://varevolutionsoccer.com/introducing-va-revolution-sportsplex/

From the release:

Loudoun County’s premier multi-sport facility, Evergreen Sportsplex, has been acquired by Revolution Investments LLC. Revolution Investments stated goal is to support the growth of Virginia Revolution Soccer Club and to advance the level of soccer investment in Northern Virginia. “We are not aware of any similar investment of this size for the benefit of a youth soccer club in the Metro D.C. area.

Youth sports are so gross.

Pathetic attempt to try and keep pace with Skyline Elite/SOCA facilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Think they’ll fix the gravel parking lot and have a second way out?

I am 100% sure they will fix the parking lot and add extra stuff

Paid parking and Valets

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Their teams still kind of suck though. Anyone know of a team they have that's actually good?

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Anonymous wrote:Their teams still kind of suck though. Anyone know of a team they have that's actually good?

Do you need good teams to run a successful club? Of course it’s better if teams are good but I’m not sure the two are that connected. Full teams of paying players is success here.

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Anonymous wrote:We have familiarity with the new director of Revolution. Style of play will be...... interesting.

What new director?