Annoying vegan sibling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I was starving and inhaled all the potatoes after being there for hours without eating (all the “heavy apps” were unsafe food choices for me). I was desperate. The veggie looked amazing but I was unable to see through my hunger. I’ll pack snacks next time.

Guess you were not that badly starving if you bypassed carrots and broccoli and green beans, and sweet potatoes. What a funny selective hunger and starvation mode you go in!

I'm vegan, and when I'm starving....nope, not doing broccoli and carrots. Gimme French fries and a greasy veggie burger.

Oh, so you are a vegan and you think the proper main dish... is an imitation of meat? A veggie burger is ok, but veggies are not? Lentils are not nor are beans? But, put them in a shape of meat! Voila!
I think we (not you, but most normal people) can all agree that we do hate vegans and with totally legit resons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I was starving and inhaled all the potatoes after being there for hours without eating (all the “heavy apps” were unsafe food choices for me). I was desperate. The veggie looked amazing but I was unable to see through my hunger. I’ll pack snacks next time.

Guess you were not that badly starving if you bypassed carrots and broccoli and green beans, and sweet potatoes. What a funny selective hunger and starvation mode you go in!

Did you have a main dish for this person or did you decide they can make do on sides and crudités? A guest is a guest, even if you project an arch behavior onto them. If you cannot provide a proper complete meal, let them know ahead to bring something or where they can order in. The need to control is rife in this family.

Oh, dear, what is a main dish for vegans?? What an awful host I must have been to have pasta, and veggies, and salad, and was I missing tofu? What is the accepted list of 200 dishes all good hosts must have for vegan guests?

Empathy. Hospitality. Grace.

[Anonymous]

You should attend my immediate family gatherings: one is kosher so has to bring everything including paper plates, one is an elderly person with few teeth (only ground meat and cooked veg), one gluten free but can't eat fiber, one keto. After a while we just made everything potluck.

[Anonymous]

Narcissism does seem to be trending in this bloodline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should attend my immediate family gatherings: one is kosher so has to bring everything including paper plates, one is an elderly person with few teeth (only ground meat and cooked veg), one gluten free but can't eat fiber, one keto. After a while we just made everything potluck.

Which likely helped everyone. I have a few health dietary restrictions and it can be super challenging (and dangerous) when a host insists on not letting me bring a safety food. I can’t tell you how many times I was sick for sake of politeness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I was starving and inhaled all the potatoes after being there for hours without eating (all the “heavy apps” were unsafe food choices for me). I was desperate. The veggie looked amazing but I was unable to see through my hunger. I’ll pack snacks next time.

Guess you were not that badly starving if you bypassed carrots and broccoli and green beans, and sweet potatoes. What a funny selective hunger and starvation mode you go in!

Did you have a main dish for this person or did you decide they can make do on sides and crudités? A guest is a guest, even if you project an arch behavior onto them. If you cannot provide a proper complete meal, let them know ahead to bring something or where they can order in. The need to control is rife in this family.

Oh, dear, what is a main dish for vegans?? What an awful host I must have been to have pasta, and veggies, and salad, and was I missing tofu? What is the accepted list of 200 dishes all good hosts must have for vegan guests?

I realize you are being sarcastic, but in case anyone on here is actually interested in preparing tempting vegan meals for guests, check out the weekly menus on the Vegetable+Bucher site. I started ordering these when my college-aged kids came home for the summer and I got tired of cooking for so many. We are all omnivores, but have been perfectly content with their vegan options for breakfast and lunch. Proteins they use include tofu, quinoa, beans, nuts and seitan.

Back to OP’s point, I do know new vegans, gluten or carb free diet enthusiasts who are beyond annoying and attention-seeking. As a PP noted, it’s not about the diet at all. The diet just provides an exciting new outlet for their narcissism. I also know a lot of vegans, vegetarians, and pescatarians who don’t talk about their diets and are motivated by environmental or prevention of animal cruelty reasons. I also know several people who have legit issues with gluten. You need to be careful not to lump the annoying attention seekers together with all the others who happen to follow a special diet for one reason or another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no dietary restrictions, but if you are getting an event catered why not have food for your known vegans? It's usually cheaper and you aren't preparing it.

This. You’re the asshat if you’re having the event catered and don’t ask for one vegan option? It’s not like you’re 95 year old auntie marge was just SURE butter was vegan...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m vegan. I know many of us are annoying, but I’m kind of horrified at the suggestions to serve nothing but broccoli or to cook things in bacon. I have had a couple friends who get extremely sick from eating meat, and adding things to people’s food is extremely unethical. How would you feel if someone intentionally fed you a food you found revolting without your consent? What if it was something you were allergic to and they wanted to prove a point that you were just being dramatic?

Many vegans get excited when they first start, as do many people who starts other diets, such as paleo, keto, weight watchers, or even just calorie restriction. Many have also struggled with lifelong disordered eating and need support, not criticism. Plus most vegans get into the diet for animal welfare reasons, which is a cause many are passionate about.

And often times there really isn’t anything for us to eat. Vegetarian is not vegan, so something with cheese or eggs doesn’t really help me. Most of the time at social gatherings, I’ll have nothing to eat but some vegetables, which is maybe 100 calories and not enough for fill me up. And equally as annoying are the people who mock me or try to cajole me into eating meat.

Can’t you just ignore the FB posts, like all of us have to do with every annoying political FB post we see? Can you offer sibling support, too? It’s not that hard to pick up a pack of vegan burgers and some vegan cheese for a cookout.

Vegans are definitely complicit in animal cruelty, and more importantly, given the working conditions for the HUMAN BEINGS that help grow and produce your food, your diet is not cruelty free whatsoever (unless you produce all your own food).
And FYI, millions of animals die also in the industrial agriculture process...that's why vegans holier than though attitude is always amusing to me.

*thou

The vegans I know are also concerned about human rights. And I never get people who expect others who take up a cause to be perfect in every other respect- it’s better than doing nothing. Like someone who ‘calls out’ a non meat eater for occasionally having an animal product....every little bit helps, right?

"Calling out" someone like this help anything at all, ever. You are confusing your desire to be obnoxious and rude with doing something that actually has impact. Admittedly, this is a common trait of vegans.

[Anonymous]

^^^ doesn't help

[Anonymous]

You’re no better than your sibling. The self absorption is in your OP as well. If it wasn’t about diet you’d find another way to tear this person apart. They may indeed be problematic, but you are just as maladaptive. Find a therapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m vegan. I know many of us are annoying, but I’m kind of horrified at the suggestions to serve nothing but broccoli or to cook things in bacon. I have had a couple friends who get extremely sick from eating meat, and adding things to people’s food is extremely unethical. How would you feel if someone intentionally fed you a food you found revolting without your consent? What if it was something you were allergic to and they wanted to prove a point that you were just being dramatic?

Many vegans get excited when they first start, as do many people who starts other diets, such as paleo, keto, weight watchers, or even just calorie restriction. Many have also struggled with lifelong disordered eating and need support, not criticism. Plus most vegans get into the diet for animal welfare reasons, which is a cause many are passionate about.

And often times there really isn’t anything for us to eat. Vegetarian is not vegan, so something with cheese or eggs doesn’t really help me. Most of the time at social gatherings, I’ll have nothing to eat but some vegetables, which is maybe 100 calories and not enough for fill me up. And equally as annoying are the people who mock me or try to cajole me into eating meat.

Can’t you just ignore the FB posts, like all of us have to do with every annoying political FB post we see? Can you offer sibling support, too? It’s not that hard to pick up a pack of vegan burgers and some vegan cheese for a cookout.

It’s impolite to push your choices on others, even if you are “excited” or “passionate” about them. IDGAF what you eat, IDGAF why.

If I invite you over and you tell me you’re vegan, I’ll make one dish to accommodate you, and a salad or other simple vegetable. After that, you’re on your own. You’re welcome to bring anything.

But if you yap about your choices or complain, I’m never inviting you again, and likely will distance myself. I don’t care if it’s vegan or Keto or Paleo, yapping about your food choices and preferences is extremely obnoxious and boring. Shut up and eat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every vegan and vegetarian is annoying, well that I met! You make them a ton of healthy veggies and they eat the potatoes.

I really don’t get how this is a problem. Just because someone doesn’t eat meat, doesn’t mean they want to eat nothing but vegetables. Veggies alone aren’t very satisfying. Potatoes are delicious and vegan. What’s wrong with them having some potatoes?

Not eating meat is one thing. Not eating meat AND dairy is quite another. It’s no trouble at all to order a cheese pizza along with other pizzas, or make a small vegetable lasagna alongside a meat lasagna, or get a pack of veggie burgers that someone can top with cheese, or not. Whatever. But vegan is beyond and I will do very little to worry about it. Your choice to be vegan is your problem, not mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I was starving and inhaled all the potatoes after being there for hours without eating (all the “heavy apps” were unsafe food choices for me). I was desperate. The veggie looked amazing but I was unable to see through my hunger. I’ll pack snacks next time.

You should. You were “desperate” after…a few hours since lunch? You were “unable to see through your hunger”…a few hours since lunch?

You are a freaking child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m vegan. I know many of us are annoying, but I’m kind of horrified at the suggestions to serve nothing but broccoli or to cook things in bacon. I have had a couple friends who get extremely sick from eating meat, and adding things to people’s food is extremely unethical. How would you feel if someone intentionally fed you a food you found revolting without your consent? What if it was something you were allergic to and they wanted to prove a point that you were just being dramatic?

Many vegans get excited when they first start, as do many people who starts other diets, such as paleo, keto, weight watchers, or even just calorie restriction. Many have also struggled with lifelong disordered eating and need support, not criticism. Plus most vegans get into the diet for animal welfare reasons, which is a cause many are passionate about.

And often times there really isn’t anything for us to eat. Vegetarian is not vegan, so something with cheese or eggs doesn’t really help me. Most of the time at social gatherings, I’ll have nothing to eat but some vegetables, which is maybe 100 calories and not enough for fill me up. And equally as annoying are the people who mock me or try to cajole me into eating meat.

Can’t you just ignore the FB posts, like all of us have to do with every annoying political FB post we see? Can you offer sibling support, too? It’s not that hard to pick up a pack of vegan burgers and some vegan cheese for a cookout.

When you make a choice not to eat most things don’t complain to others that there’s nothing for you to eat.

For a lot of us, entertaining is very stressful. If I'm doing a sit down dinner, timing everything can be complicated. I'm not smart enough to know the nuances of vegan vs vegetarian so I'd have to figure that out. That is why hosts just try to provide lots of vegetables. Be understanding that you are increasing the work load for your host.

[Anonymous]

I have nothing against people being vegan, but when you have a fairly significant dietary restriction like that, I think the appropriate thing to do is offer to bring a dish to share to any family gathering.