Annoying vegan sibling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stop laughing at the lady angry at the vegan for eating too many potatoes, instead of being embarrassed she didn’t cook enough food. Is it 3 green beans and one slice of pizza lady?

+1. Funniest post today. Imagine, she cooked all this broccoli for the vegan and they dared to help themselves to the potatoes.

Great that I entertained you. Is it too hard to imagine that I eat healthily and presumed the same would be true for vegans? My diet is mostly beans, oatmeal, veggies, and fruit and some meat. The gall of me to cook something other than mashed potatoes!

Your five replies further indicate your vegan rage over a dinner that occurred at least six months ago is super weird and cringey. She probably got them mixed up. Make more potatoes next year.

There seems to be another potato lady. Perhaps posting all the time. I only posted my replies this morning.

[Anonymous]

We’re going to need that potato recipe !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question - why host if you don’t want to ensure your guests are fed and taken care of?

I love hosting, and I certainly don’t mind making things vegan, gluten-free, organic, whatever. My goal is to make people happy and comfortable, and to make sure they have a good time. If I knew my guests were going hungry, I’d be horrified.

Hosting is not the time to try to prove a point about people’s dietary choices.

Exactly. I have cooked entirely separate meals for Vegetarian Hindus. No shared utensils, cookware or dishes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

+1. I'll order the beyond burger w/o mayo or cheese and start getting the eye rolls and jokes. Why do they care so much about my meal that it is actually funny or annoying to them? I'm not saying a thing about your bloody steak or your fart-scented hard boiled eggs on your salad, so how 'bout you just let me pick what I want too.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

+1. I'll order the beyond burger w/o mayo or cheese and start getting the eye rolls and jokes. Why do they care so much about my meal that it is actually funny or annoying to them? I'm not saying a thing about your bloody steak or your fart-scented hard boiled eggs on your salad, so how 'bout you just let me pick what I want too.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

+1. I'll order the beyond burger w/o mayo or cheese and start getting the eye rolls and jokes. Why do they care so much about my meal that it is actually funny or annoying to them? I'm not saying a thing about your bloody steak or your fart-scented hard boiled eggs on your salad, so how 'bout you just let me pick what I want too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

It’s great that you, personally, have not encountered a stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. But that doesn’t mean they don’t exist, as evidenced by this very thread. I have personally experienced a vegan lecturing me about choosing to eat meat. I personally have experienced inviting someone over for a meal, and cooking special vegan items, only to have them roll their eyes and complain that “all they are ever served” was a version of what I was serving. (Um, how about YOU host for once—they’ve been to three of my dinner parties, two casual-style potlucks, holiday open houses and have NEVER reciprocated.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

It’s great that you, personally, have not encountered a stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. But that doesn’t mean they don’t exist, as evidenced by this very thread. I have personally experienced a vegan lecturing me about choosing to eat meat. I personally have experienced inviting someone over for a meal, and cooking special vegan items, only to have them roll their eyes and complain that “all they are ever served” was a version of what I was serving. (Um, how about YOU host for once—they’ve been to three of my dinner parties, two casual-style potlucks, holiday open houses and have NEVER reciprocated.)

Your friends sound like jerks and I am sorry about that. I did not mean to suggest that I think that such people do not exist at all. I would probably hazard a guess that your vegan friends who have been so rude to you are not exactly joyful and lovely in the non-food related aspects of their lives. In other words, it is their personality and behavior towards others, not their veganism, that is the core of the problem.

[Anonymous]

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

I don't know how to say this politely, but I'm really not interested in 99.99 percent of other people to engage with them on this level about their food. If my husband or son became vegan, perhaps I would have this discussion with them, but I just don't have the interest level to engage with other people about what they eat and why.

[Anonymous]

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

PP here. My annoying vegan boss is a 55-60 year old man, so I don't think it is limited to young people. They may be the worst offenders. And of course, as I said before, many vegans are fine.

[Anonymous]

I love the dueling Potato Ladies! Apparently this is a thing. Note to self, vegans eat a lot of potatoes, enough so that this problem is a trend!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

It’s great that you, personally, have not encountered a stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. But that doesn’t mean they don’t exist, as evidenced by this very thread. I have personally experienced a vegan lecturing me about choosing to eat meat. I personally have experienced inviting someone over for a meal, and cooking special vegan items, only to have them roll their eyes and complain that “all they are ever served” was a version of what I was serving. (Um, how about YOU host for once—they’ve been to three of my dinner parties, two casual-style potlucks, holiday open houses and have NEVER reciprocated.)

Your friends sound like jerks and I am sorry about that. I did not mean to suggest that I think that such people do not exist at all. I would probably hazard a guess that your vegan friends who have been so rude to you are not exactly joyful and lovely in the non-food related aspects of their lives. In other words, it is their personality and behavior towards others, not their veganism, that is the core of the problem.

Oh I agree with you 100%. -PP you were responding to

[Anonymous]

The dueling Potato Ladies are the best part of this thread, and really my only take away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people seem to become such narcissists about their eating? Sibling turned vegan which is fine, but has to advertise it all the time, post drama about it on FB, and complain when there is "nothing she can eat" at catered family gatherings (that have vegetarian options). It's like a made-up disability concocted around food hat people then seek attention for.

Yup I totally get it! I've been vegetarian for years and I though I rarely say a word about it, if it's noticed at a group meal or something some meat eater cannot resist making ignorant comments or carrying on about how much they like bacon and just generally trying to force their views on me. And plenty of people at group meals / cookouts etc will ramble on endlessly about whatever meat they're eating that day. I don't know why this attention-seeking nonsense is okay and why people have to "advertise" like this while your sibling can't do the same though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think there are different ways of behaving about being vegan. I have a former boyfriend (who is a current friend) who is vegan, and is super laid back about it. While he absolutely does not eat animal products, he doesn't make a big deal if someone else does, and goes out of his way to let people know and offers to bring a vegan dish to share. My current boss is a vegan, and is a sanctimonious ass that goes out of his way to complain and make people feel uncomfortable. Just as there are all different types of people, there are all different types of vegans.

This is true, and what most people say is something like, "I don't care if you're vegan, just don't be one of those annoying vegans."

Fine by me. I've never once made my vegan choice anyone else's problem, and I never bring it up first. And when asked by hosts about dietary restrictions, I try to make it as easy as possible for them. And I certainly don't judge other people for what they eat -- basically everyone else in my family subsists on beef, chicken tenders, and cheesy potatoes. I don't care.

However. What I have noticed is that some people are determined to make me into a problem. For example, if I'm at a restaurant with colleagues and ask for the salad not to have cheese or inquire if the brioche bun for the veggie burger contains dairy, I start getting questions. I start getting pushback -- even presumptions about my decision. ("Do you really think you're making a difference in the environment?" "Do you really think cows have feelings?" "You know, vegan doesn't necessarily mean healthy!" "What about protein?") Or criticisms -- from non-vegans! -- that I'm not orthodox enough. ("Oh, but you eat honey?" "Oh, but you have leather shoes.") For all I know, they go back to their friends and family complaining about the "annoying vegan" who "made it all about her" and "insisted" to the restaurant that I don't have any dairy. When I never brought it up in the first place.

Personally, as a vegan, I simply have not encountered the stereotypical annoying vegan in adulthood. Are there some cringey meme-worthy college students or young people being sanctimonious? I'm sure. But that's young people about everything.

100%. This happens over and over and over again.