Real talk: are there going to be enough teachers for summer school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

It’s just funny because prepandemic, DCUM could not stop talking about how soul-crushing and bad for the BMI it was to sit in classrooms all day. And now, it’s so important that we should have done it at the height of the pandemic.

Yes, it's hiLARious, isn't it?

Grow up. Kids don't need to sit at a desk for six hours to learn, and so many being out of school for so long has negative consequences. We should have prioritized kids. Period. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

I guess you're not a teacher.

Yes I am. My contract is for 190 days and that is all I am required to work.

Didn't the union send out an email about this? The district can't force people to work over the summer (including training?)

Aren't there 16 unscheduled duty hours for training?

Those are for collaborative planning not training. You can’t do those during the summer. The paperwork is always due from the SDT on checkout day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

I guess you're not a teacher.

Yes I am. My contract is for 190 days and that is all I am required to work.

Didn't the union send out an email about this? The district can't force people to work over the summer (including training?)

I believe what the email said is that if you cannot do the trainings over the summer, you need to speak w your administration and make plans to take them in the fall. Which...I’d rather do a few days of training and decompress the rest of summer than teach all day and do trainings at night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

I guess you're not a teacher.

Yes I am. My contract is for 190 days and that is all I am required to work.

Didn't the union send out an email about this? The district can't force people to work over the summer (including training?)

I believe what the email said is that if you cannot do the trainings over the summer, you need to speak w your administration and make plans to take them in the fall. Which...I’d rather do a few days of training and decompress the rest of summer than teach all day and do trainings at night

And for some revised courses, you will need the training this summer to plan for the first couple weeks of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Required summer training? Um, nope. Now if they want to pay a stipend, maybe. It depends on how much the stipend is. But they cannot require my presence at a training over the summer.

I guess you're not a teacher.

Yes I am. My contract is for 190 days and that is all I am required to work.

Didn't the union send out an email about this? The district can't force people to work over the summer (including training?)

I believe what the email said is that if you cannot do the trainings over the summer, you need to speak w your administration and make plans to take them in the fall. Which...I’d rather do a few days of training and decompress the rest of summer than teach all day and do trainings at night

The email said that it is the county’s obligation to provide alternative dates. We cannot be compelled to work between June 18-august 23 without pay and without alternative times within the duty calendar to complete the work.
It was horrible planning to require so much training (3 days for SEL training that hadn’t been purchased??) while also offering free summer school to every student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

It’s just funny because prepandemic, DCUM could not stop talking about how soul-crushing and bad for the BMI it was to sit in classrooms all day. And now, it’s so important that we should have done it at the height of the pandemic.

Yes, it's hiLARious, isn't it?

Grow up. Kids don't need to sit at a desk for six hours to learn, and so many being out of school for so long has negative consequences. We should have prioritized kids. Period. Full stop.

Who cares if another half million people would have died.

[Anonymous]

I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

It’s just funny because prepandemic, DCUM could not stop talking about how soul-crushing and bad for the BMI it was to sit in classrooms all day. And now, it’s so important that we should have done it at the height of the pandemic.

Yes, it's hiLARious, isn't it?

Grow up. Kids don't need to sit at a desk for six hours to learn, and so many being out of school for so long has negative consequences. We should have prioritized kids. Period. Full stop.

Who cares if another half million people would have died.

You’re either purposely being obtuse or entirely missing the point. Enough with the drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

Yeah-you're definitely not a teacher. (or if you are, you're not a very good one bc you lack critical thinking skills) If you were, you'd know that the majority of teachers weren't convinced we'd die if we went into our classrooms. To say we "did this to ourselves" is just ignorant, but you keep doing you, viewing the world through your very narrow lens, lumping groups of people together as if they all have the same thoughts, actions, and ideas.

This is an anonymous forum. I could claim I'm an MCPS parent with 4 kids and here are my thoughts about my experience.

I'm not, but you'd never know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

Yeah-you're definitely not a teacher. (or if you are, you're not a very good one bc you lack critical thinking skills) If you were, you'd know that the majority of teachers weren't convinced we'd die if we went into our classrooms. To say we "did this to ourselves" is just ignorant, but you keep doing you, viewing the world through your very narrow lens, lumping groups of people together as if they all have the same thoughts, actions, and ideas.

This is an anonymous forum. I could claim I'm an MCPS parent with 4 kids and here are my thoughts about my experience.

I'm not, but you'd never know.

So, I can only be a teacher if I agree with every other teacher? Got it.
Nope- I ran back into the classroom as soon as I could and waited until March for the vaccinated MCpS teachers to feel ‘safe’ enough to teach him on zoom.

[Anonymous]

This has nothing to do with the OP's topic. Many teachers don't want to work summer. Of course that choice is theirs to make. Whether they wanted school to open or not there will be kids coming in that have done nothing for a year plus. It will be tiring for many. End of story.[

quote=Anonymous]I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

Yeah-you're definitely not a teacher. (or if you are, you're not a very good one bc you lack critical thinking skills) If you were, you'd know that the majority of teachers weren't convinced we'd die if we went into our classrooms. To say we "did this to ourselves" is just ignorant, but you keep doing you, viewing the world through your very narrow lens, lumping groups of people together as if they all have the same thoughts, actions, and ideas.

This is an anonymous forum. I could claim I'm an MCPS parent with 4 kids and here are my thoughts about my experience.

I'm not, but you'd never know.

So, I can only be a teacher if I agree with every other teacher? Got it.
Nope- I ran back into the classroom as soon as I could and waited until March for the vaccinated MCpS teachers to feel ‘safe’ enough to teach him on zoom.

lol again, with the lack of critical thinking skills. i didnt say that. at all. i said you'd know the MAJORITY, so how does that align with your idea agree with ALL? last time i checked, the majority wasn't all, so no, i wasnt asking you to agree with ALL teachers, i was telling you not all thought that way. geez. i feel bad for your students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why will the fall be grueling?

Getting kids used to routines and procedures of being in school again who havent been in school for a year.

DP, but all the more reason most kids should have gone back this year, long before they did in this area (ours went back as soon as they could).

I don't blame teachers for not wanting to teach summer school this year. My kids aren't doing it, because they need a break. I realize we're lucky to have that as the best option.

There's going to be a LOT of fallout from being out of schools this long. It's incredibly short-sighted to think otherwise.

It’s just funny because prepandemic, DCUM could not stop talking about how soul-crushing and bad for the BMI it was to sit in classrooms all day. And now, it’s so important that we should have done it at the height of the pandemic.

Yes, it's hiLARious, isn't it?

Grow up. Kids don't need to sit at a desk for six hours to learn, and so many being out of school for so long has negative consequences. We should have prioritized kids. Period. Full stop.

Who cares if another half million people would have died.

You’re either purposely being obtuse or entirely missing the point. Enough with the drama.

Exactly.

1. The trade-off is not schools vs. people dying. We kept literally *everything else* open, and for some reason, that was completely cool vis a vis public health.
2. The long-term consequences to many children will be profound. Enough with the stigmatizing and minimizing of mental health, already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a DCPS teacher and MCPS parent. Honestly- teachers did this to themselves. Y’all have spent the better part of the year trying to convince yourself & others that you’d die if you went into your classroom. That IS exhausting. And now- in the fall you’ll have kids who have been running wild since March 2020. That’s kind of how this works…. And why some of us wanted things to actually open this year.

A round of applause for some common sense here. Thank you DC teacher for being the voice of reason. I wish there were more like you.

[Anonymous]

JFC. Yes, many teachers were posting non-anonymously about how returning in-person to school is inappropriate from a pedagogical standpoint or whatever and acting like Hogan was a monster for wanting schools to open. This was a real thing teachers did. They also repeatedly argued that learning loss is exaggerated and that kids are resilient. Now you're concerned about the consequences of keeping kids out of school for over a year? NOW???? YOU USED OUR CHILDREN AS A BARGAINING CHIP. I'm sorry next year will be difficult but you made your bed.