APS School Board meeting last night - who watched?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s like the slow motion decline of a once solid county.

If only there were a way to put the angry white dads in their place.

Wow - AEM and SR must be having a slow day at work today...

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Can we all just calling all parents who want their kids to finally receive a real education "white privileged parents"?? Seriously - are you going to say that black/brown/latino families across the country don't want their kids in school? We moved to Arlington for the schools and are baffled at how poorly all of this is being handled.

Black/brown/white/ALL parents want there kids back in school. Every parent wants their child to go to school. Period.

Many black/brown parents and a few white parents understand that we are in a pandemic. Their current priority is about basic survival and they aren't using the same decision matrix as you.

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Anonymous wrote:APE also needs to look at the optics of having white males scream at a Black female elected official to resign her job.

Those white APE males were a little scary.

They’re bullies. They’re frustrated? Why don’t they go after Donald Trump for the way he handled all of this? The restaurant industry? The gyms? No. It’s a lot easier to pick on educators, who are mostly women.

And the Latina women speaking for others.

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I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s like the slow motion decline of a once solid county.

If only there were a way to put the angry white dads in their place.

Wow - AEM and SR must be having a slow day at work today...

There are plenty of people disgusted with behavior of angry, white men in our country. Including these APE thugs.

Try not to conflate us all, thanks.

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Can we all just calling all parents who want their kids to finally receive a real education "white privileged parents"?? Seriously - are you going to say that black/brown/latino families across the country don't want their kids in school? We moved to Arlington for the schools and are baffled at how poorly all of this is being handled.

I'm assuming you look back and read this and think "Wow, I made some excellent points there"

We can't help this level of obtuseness.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Can we all just calling all parents who want their kids to finally receive a real education "white privileged parents"?? Seriously - are you going to say that black/brown/latino families across the country don't want their kids in school? We moved to Arlington for the schools and are baffled at how poorly all of this is being handled.

No, because that’s what this is. That speaker was telling you that no, her community doesn’t want their kids back in school this year, so stop talking about them like you even know them. And also, this is the definition of privilege: we moved to Arlington for the schools. So, you are angry that you paid so much and aren’t getting your way. Listen to your own words. APS is not going to make decisions about how to operate because you paid a premium to live here “for the schools.”

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

Nobody said that.

If you actually care about what is "racist" then sit TF down and listen. But I'm guessing you don't really care...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

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Then you didn’t watch the comments.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

Because you are determined not to understand it.

Or prove me wrong: Why are some families not returning for hybrid? Why might they not return for 4-day in person for the rest of the quarter? How does insisting the APS provide it make things worse for them?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s like the slow motion decline of a once solid county.

X1,000,0000

It’s insane what it’s become. So glad we got out.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

Nobody said that.

If you actually care about what is "racist" then sit TF down and listen. But I'm guessing you don't really care...

I'm listening. Explain why we can't offer more days/week for early elementary. The only reasons I've heard is that transportation says it's too hard and we don't feel like implementing 3 feet.

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Anonymous wrote:APS is a hot mess for all the money we spend on education. But APE seems to think "bullies get their way" in this county (worked in the past). Their hostility is ultimately just screwing our kids.

Wait! You mean that 22207 doesn't get to decide everything just because they have powerful jobs and money?

They aren’t trying to “control everything.” No one is taking away virtual learning. It’s still an option regardless of if other families get to send their kids back 4-5 days per week. I agree that white parents should not be using minority children as pawns. But as a white parent, I still retain the right to advocate for my child’s return to school (no I wasn’t a speaker last night, but I also don’t think the word privilege should be thrown around just because parents are fed up with watching the SB fail to do what surrounding counties have managed to do).

“Controlling everything” would be trying to force all kids back in school full time. But none of the parents in APE seem to be arguing for this (from what I’ve seen as a newer member). I respect the voices of those who spoke out last night about why they don’t want to return 4-5 days per week. But I also fail to see how their statements are relevant to whether *other* children get to return more days. Those parents are already getting what they want. So why is the SB giving them extra time to speak? The SB needs to be listening to all parents, not just the ones who support what they’ve already decided to do.

And you know the term “white privilege” has jumped the shark when it’s being used to describe people being vocal and frustrated about their children not having access to more in-person education. I am a democrat and can’t believe it’s liberals who are keeping kids out of classrooms. Who needs republicans to try to dismantle public education when the far left is doing a fine job of it themselves.

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I just watched. I totally disagree with the guy saying that the movement of teens from hybrid to virtual is because of the instructional model. It’s because their parents are allowing them to do so, plain and simple. Some of these people need to take responsibility for what’s happening with their children’s learning. If you let your kid get away with whatever, you can’t expect APS to fix that. Some people need to say no to their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still not clear on how offering 4-5 days in person per week to anyone who chooses to attend is racist.

Because you are determined not to understand it.

Or prove me wrong: Why are some families not returning for hybrid? Why might they not return for 4-day in person for the rest of the quarter? How does insisting the APS provide it make things worse for them?

Some families are not returning for hybrid because they have either made a decision that it is not safe for their families or the logistical hurdles (no aftercare, need to work, older children providing childcare for younger children) are too much right now. Right now they would rather stay with the status quo and limp through to the end of the year (understandable). I'm don't have an answer for your third question, which is kind of my point. How does APS providing more days to those who want them make it worse for those who are full time virtual? It does not.