Maury Principal Leaving (ACPS)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's fortunate to get out and into a new job before someone filed a lawsuit with respect to the inability of anyone at that school to understand IEPs and IDEA.

That's every school in ACPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Over the past year/18 months four ES principals have left ACPS (MacArthur, George Mason, JH, Barrett). Maury makes it five. So in that time ACPS is losing/has lost almost half of the ES principals.

This seems like very high turnover to me. Is it?

J-H’s principal was horrible so his departure can only be seen as a good thing. Add that Polk’s principal is retiring at the end of the year.

JH was unaccredited for years and nothing has changed except the state lowered the bar for accreditation, which actually undermines the credibility of any improvement. The principal, superintendent, and school board at a minimum should have been dumped for that.

Not to derail this thread, but the former J-H principal is taking credit for getting J-H accredited during his short tenure. From his bio: "MScott has a consistent record of raising student achievement in both ACPS and DCPS middle, and elementary, and PreK-8 schools, including leading Jefferson-Houston to full accreditation in Virginia."

I agree with PP that it was the state lowering the standards that allowed this to happen and that the principal was inexperienced and ineffective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over the past year/18 months four ES principals have left ACPS (MacArthur, George Mason, JH, Barrett). Maury makes it five. So in that time ACPS is losing/has lost almost half of the ES principals.

This seems like very high turnover to me. Is it?

J-H’s principal was horrible so his departure can only be seen as a good thing. Add that Polk’s principal is retiring at the end of the year.

JH was unaccredited for years and nothing has changed except the state lowered the bar for accreditation, which actually undermines the credibility of any improvement. The principal, superintendent, and school board at a minimum should have been dumped for that.

Not to derail this thread, but the former J-H principal is taking credit for getting J-H accredited during his short tenure. From his bio: "MScott has a consistent record of raising student achievement in both ACPS and DCPS middle, and elementary, and PreK-8 schools, including leading Jefferson-Houston to full accreditation in Virginia."

I agree with PP that it was the state lowering the standards that allowed this to happen and that the principal was inexperienced and ineffective.

Yeah. They all do this. Seeing what the former GM principal says about his time at the school made me laugh. He forgot to mention all the special treatment that kids of connected parents got while he was there. He also forgot to mention how he actively kept out a program that is designed to identify students for advanced programs from segments that are underrepresented in TAG.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You might need to read some articles about why grammar is is a function of an oppressive society.

Is this why ACPS doesn't teach grammar?

Assuming people are unintelligent or unprofessional because they use AAVE, which is a dialect that has defined speech patterns and its own grammar, and not standardized WHITE English is racist. It is.

It also is not used in academics, literature, or general media so the continued use is likely to have an impact on students who try and take standardized tests, using grammatically correct English.

Think about it - a little kid is asked to select the sentence with the correct grammar. One sentence is written grammatically correct and the other is written in the vascular. Kid reads both. The grammatically correct sounds vaguely familiar but the vascular sentence is how he hears adults and friends speaking all the time so that one must be the correct choice. Except it isn't. And he gets the question wrong. Repeat many times on the same test and this kid who is very intelligent now gets a very low standardized test reading score and is told he needs remediation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might need to read some articles about why grammar is is a function of an oppressive society.

Is this why ACPS doesn't teach grammar?

Assuming people are unintelligent or unprofessional because they use AAVE, which is a dialect that has defined speech patterns and its own grammar, and not standardized WHITE English is racist. It is.

It also is not used in academics, literature, or general media so the continued use is likely to have an impact on students who try and take standardized tests, using grammatically correct English.

Think about it - a little kid is asked to select the sentence with the correct grammar. One sentence is written grammatically correct and the other is written in the vascular. Kid reads both. The grammatically correct sounds vaguely familiar but the vascular sentence is how he hears adults and friends speaking all the time so that one must be the correct choice. Except it isn't. And he gets the question wrong. Repeat many times on the same test and this kid who is very intelligent now gets a very low standardized test reading score and is told he needs remediation.

If that intelligent kid gets remediation so that he can actually write sentences with standard grammar, won't that better equip him to succeed in the future? It's not like the broader society is going to start accepting AAVE as standard American English.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's fortunate to get out and into a new job before someone filed a lawsuit with respect to the inability of anyone at that school to understand IEPs and IDEA.

That's every school in ACPS.

This is because Specialized Instruction has a set (often unsupported) view of the law on IEP/application of IDEA. They get away with it because it is so expensive to fight them through due process and any win would just apply to that single student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's fortunate to get out and into a new job before someone filed a lawsuit with respect to the inability of anyone at that school to understand IEPs and IDEA.

That's every school in ACPS.

This is because Specialized Instruction has a set (often unsupported) view of the law on IEP/application of IDEA. They get away with it because it is so expensive to fight them through due process and any win would just apply to that single student.

Exactly. It makes me sad when people say to sue the district. It's expensive. ACPS knows that. They could care less.

[Anonymous]

-He failed both my kids in times of need
-Called one of them a liar after they were assualted by another kid
-Has the warmth and personality of a wet towel
-Glad to see him go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might need to read some articles about why grammar is is a function of an oppressive society.

Is this why ACPS doesn't teach grammar?

Assuming people are unintelligent or unprofessional because they use AAVE, which is a dialect that has defined speech patterns and its own grammar, and not standardized WHITE English is racist. It is.

It also is not used in academics, literature, or general media so the continued use is likely to have an impact on students who try and take standardized tests, using grammatically correct English.

Think about it - a little kid is asked to select the sentence with the correct grammar. One sentence is written grammatically correct and the other is written in the vascular. Kid reads both. The grammatically correct sounds vaguely familiar but the vascular sentence is how he hears adults and friends speaking all the time so that one must be the correct choice. Except it isn't. And he gets the question wrong. Repeat many times on the same test and this kid who is very intelligent now gets a very low standardized test reading score and is told he needs remediation.

If that intelligent kid gets remediation so that he can actually write sentences with standard grammar, won't that better equip him to succeed in the future? It's not like the broader society is going to start accepting AAVE as standard American English.

Why bother. It’s easier to just call people racist. It’s simply asking too much of someone to learn standard English. Now that I think about it, the Spanglish i speak is a dialect of Spanish and my Spanish teachers were racist for giving me poor grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:-He failed both my kids in times of need
-Called one of them a liar after they were assualted by another kid
-Has the warmth and personality of a wet towel
-Glad to see him go.

What is it with ACPS and denying assaults?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might need to read some articles about why grammar is is a function of an oppressive society.

Is this why ACPS doesn't teach grammar?

Assuming people are unintelligent or unprofessional because they use AAVE, which is a dialect that has defined speech patterns and its own grammar, and not standardized WHITE English is racist. It is.

It also is not used in academics, literature, or general media so the continued use is likely to have an impact on students who try and take standardized tests, using grammatically correct English.

Think about it - a little kid is asked to select the sentence with the correct grammar. One sentence is written grammatically correct and the other is written in the vascular. Kid reads both. The grammatically correct sounds vaguely familiar but the vascular sentence is how he hears adults and friends speaking all the time so that one must be the correct choice. Except it isn't. And he gets the question wrong. Repeat many times on the same test and this kid who is very intelligent now gets a very low standardized test reading score and is told he needs remediation.

If that intelligent kid gets remediation so that he can actually write sentences with standard grammar, won't that better equip him to succeed in the future? It's not like the broader society is going to start accepting AAVE as standard American English.

This is the issue. What you think is “standard grammar” is white grammar. AAVE is standardized too. It had legitimate patterns in syntax, grammar and verb tenses. This is a known linguistic reality. Saying that only white English is standard ignores this. A child who grows up in a home that speaks AAVE DOES have a grasp of grammar and usage and sentence structure and speech patterns. They are taught in schools this is “wrong” and only white English is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You might need to read some articles about why grammar is is a function of an oppressive society.

Is this why ACPS doesn't teach grammar?

Assuming people are unintelligent or unprofessional because they use AAVE, which is a dialect that has defined speech patterns and its own grammar, and not standardized WHITE English is racist. It is.

It also is not used in academics, literature, or general media so the continued use is likely to have an impact on students who try and take standardized tests, using grammatically correct English.

Think about it - a little kid is asked to select the sentence with the correct grammar. One sentence is written grammatically correct and the other is written in the vascular. Kid reads both. The grammatically correct sounds vaguely familiar but the vascular sentence is how he hears adults and friends speaking all the time so that one must be the correct choice. Except it isn't. And he gets the question wrong. Repeat many times on the same test and this kid who is very intelligent now gets a very low standardized test reading score and is told he needs remediation.

Are you kidding with this? Vascular?

It isn't a typo because you used the same word twice. It is a laugh and a half because you're casting shade on someone else about appropriate language use and grammar. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

The truth is often stranger than fiction.

[Anonymous]

My son recently graduated from Maury. When I asked him what he thought of Mr. Powell, his response was, "nothing, because the man never said a word to me the entire time I was there. I doubt he knows who I am." I think that is very telling, in a school as small as Maury.

[Anonymous]

I also don't agree that he did much for Black and Hispanic children who had potential to participate in TAG. My son had several friends (all boys) who are in Honors classes with him at GW, and doing well, but not one of them was identified for TAG in Maury. Out of my son's TAG classes (reading and math), there were two Black girls in TAG reading, none in math, and zero Black boys in any TAG classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also don't agree that he did much for Black and Hispanic children who had potential to participate in TAG. My son had several friends (all boys) who are in Honors classes with him at GW, and doing well, but not one of them was identified for TAG in Maury. Out of my son's TAG classes (reading and math), there were two Black girls in TAG reading, none in math, and zero Black boys in any TAG classes.

This is a consistent problem within ACPS.