compare rankings of unis vs LACs

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Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

Parchment is a bogus site and cannot be trusted for valuable data. The site says that Emory's avg ACT is 20 for admitted students. TWENTY!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

Parchment is a bogus site and cannot be trusted for valuable data. The site says that Emory's avg ACT is 20 for admitted students. TWENTY!!

I'm sorry, it does not say that is the average score for admitted students, it says that is the average score for students "interested in" Emory--two very different things I think you would agree. See

https://www.parchment.com/u/college/436-Emory-University/profile

Not sure how you could have misread that.

I might add that at my son's school, all students take the SAT in their junior year. Even those who do well on the SAT will then take the ACT in their senior year just for the heck of it to see how it goes. The average SAT score ends up being much better than the average ACT score. Each student reports the better score (SAT vs. ACT) when applying to colleges. So average ACT score of an "interested student" might be very different from the average ACT score of admitted students who choose to report ACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

Not Washu? Or Rice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

What happened to Vanderbilt? Every school claims to be the Harvard of something, Emory can be the Harvard of the Atlanta metro area

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

Not Washu? Or Rice?

Wash...Harvard of the Midwest? This is funny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

What happened to Vanderbilt? Every school claims to be the Harvard of something, Emory can be the Harvard of the Atlanta metro area

LMFAO

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That's Oglethorpe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

There could be relatively few data points. I don't think 50-50 ever shows up as statistically significant, but it could be that there are relatively few cross-admits. One school is a Southern university and one is a New England LAC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

Parchment is a bogus site and cannot be trusted for valuable data. The site says that Emory's avg ACT is 20 for admitted students. TWENTY!!

I'm sorry, it does not say that is the average score for admitted students, it says that is the average score for students "interested in" Emory--two very different things I think you would agree. See

https://www.parchment.com/u/college/436-Emory-University/profile

Not sure how you could have misread that.

I might add that at my son's school, all students take the SAT in their junior year. Even those who do well on the SAT will then take the ACT in their senior year just for the heck of it to see how it goes. The average SAT score ends up being much better than the average ACT score. Each student reports the better score (SAT vs. ACT) when applying to colleges. So average ACT score of an "interested student" might be very different from the average ACT score of admitted students who choose to report ACT.

Parchment says it is based on actual data, but there could be some sort of bias in the schools that provide data to Parchment. I find it is plausible, particularly for schools where there is a significant overlap in applications. It won't really provide direct insights on selectivity. For instance, 81% of cross-admits choose MIT over Caltech, so 4 to 1. But if you consider that there are about 4.5 MIT undergraduates for every 1 Caltech undergraduates, you can see that it is likely with the number of common applicants, Caltech couldn't be 50-50 with MIT unless it were significantly larger than it is. They would be overenrolled at 50-50. Caltech actually has slightly higher stats than MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

Parchment is a bogus site and cannot be trusted for valuable data. The site says that Emory's avg ACT is 20 for admitted students. TWENTY!!

I'm sorry, it does not say that is the average score for admitted students, it says that is the average score for students "interested in" Emory--two very different things I think you would agree. See

https://www.parchment.com/u/college/436-Emory-University/profile

Not sure how you could have misread that.

I might add that at my son's school, all students take the SAT in their junior year. Even those who do well on the SAT will then take the ACT in their senior year just for the heck of it to see how it goes. The average SAT score ends up being much better than the average ACT score. Each student reports the better score (SAT vs. ACT) when applying to colleges. So average ACT score of an "interested student" might be very different from the average ACT score of admitted students who choose to report ACT.

Parchment says it is based on actual data, but there could be some sort of bias in the schools that provide data to Parchment. I find it is plausible, particularly for schools where there is a significant overlap in applications. It won't really provide direct insights on selectivity. For instance, 81% of cross-admits choose MIT over Caltech, so 4 to 1. But if you consider that there are about 4.5 MIT undergraduates for every 1 Caltech undergraduates, you can see that it is likely with the number of common applicants, Caltech couldn't be 50-50 with MIT unless it were significantly larger than it is. They would be overenrolled at 50-50. Caltech actually has slightly higher stats than MIT.

Your argument makes no sense. Based on the parchment data, in the population of students accepted to both schools, 80% choose MIT. The schools obviously admit more students than can enroll based on yield information. There is no size adjustment needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the idea that emory is better than middlebury is laughable. even more laughable is the idea that it would attract the same kind of student. midd is an elite school; top 10 SLAC in the country. Emory is ranked 21 on university list. however, none of that matters because a kid who is going to desire to go to midd is not going to want to go to emory and vice versa. they will attract a different kind of student; urban/rural; medium/small; greek life/no greek life; more pre-professional/true SLAC focused on languages and environmental studies. this is why the comparisons are just plain stupid.

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Middlebury+College&with=Emory+University

You overrating Middlebury to the heavens.

Only in DCUM world would someone try to make a point that Emory is better than Midd and post a link that shows them chosen 50-50.

I'm not PP

That's the thing - no matter which side you are on it is literally 50-50 negating any corroborative value.

Parchment is a bogus site and cannot be trusted for valuable data. The site says that Emory's avg ACT is 20 for admitted students. TWENTY!!

I'm sorry, it does not say that is the average score for admitted students, it says that is the average score for students "interested in" Emory--two very different things I think you would agree. See

https://www.parchment.com/u/college/436-Emory-University/profile

Not sure how you could have misread that.

I might add that at my son's school, all students take the SAT in their junior year. Even those who do well on the SAT will then take the ACT in their senior year just for the heck of it to see how it goes. The average SAT score ends up being much better than the average ACT score. Each student reports the better score (SAT vs. ACT) when applying to colleges. So average ACT score of an "interested student" might be very different from the average ACT score of admitted students who choose to report ACT.

It seems like the students that are only interested in a school are allowed to input admit data. I don't see how this website is reliable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are some numbers that presumably reveal something about a school's current popularity. These are stats for the schools recently mentioned in this thread. BTW, all these schools became test-optional this year.

Applications were up 30% at Middlebury this year,

https://middleburycampus.com/53708/news/applications-up-30-to-nearly-12000-in-historic-surge/

35% at Tufts

https://now.tufts.edu/articles/tufts-undergraduate-applications-rise-35-percent

Emory seems to have only released information on ED 1 and 2 applications, which were up 10%,

https://emorywheel.com/early-decision-ii-applicant-pool-grows-in-wake-of-test-optional-policy/

A reasonable conjecture is that Emory has not broadcast the rise in total applications because it isn't as impressive a number as for other schools.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/lcjb19/yet_another_series_of_records_news_emory_and/

Emory apps increased by 18%. Emory already received around 30k apps per year. Conversely Princeton only increased apps by 5% and Gatech by 11%. Emory regardless is the better school between the three with better outcomes for graduates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

I thought that was Duke?

What happened to Vanderbilt? Every school claims to be the Harvard of something, Emory can be the Harvard of the Atlanta metro area

They're are apart of the Magnolia league. Depending on the major Emory can definitely be the better choice than Vandy, and maybe even Duke.