I still don't understand what classroom monitors are for

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It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.

How would you know whether your teacher has a reason to stay or not. ADA information is protected. My students certainly don't know why I won't be returning to the classroom.


An ADA accommodation to allow you to work from home as a teacher is beyond reasonable. If the system were able to pair the teachers with those students doing virtual school only, that would maybe be okay, but to let a teacher "teach" from home while the kids sit with a monitor is kind of nuts. I say that as someone who taught for years. It's ridiculous. Teacher needs to go on disability if cannot work in school.


So, do you realize that school systems don't keep spare teachers in the closet with the extra photocopy paper? In the situation that you're proposing, where teachers go out on disability, the monitors would become the subs. If their skills are so limited that you're worried about them being the only one in the room, why would you want them to be the teacher?


LOL, I left your comment about the extra teachers with the photocopy paper. 😄
Anonymous
I think two doses of the vaccine + 2 weeks more should render the ADA moot/no longer “reasonable.” It was reasonable up until that point.
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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of reasons why a teacher might be unavailable.

First, there will be situations where teachers are exposed when students aren't. I teach in person. We had a situation where a teacher and her husband spent time with someone, who was diagnosed the day after she saw him. Since the time period between the teacher seeing the person, and seeing students, was so short, the Health Department found there was no risk. So, the teacher was ordered to quarantine but not the class. Then during the teacher's two week quarantine her husband got the virus so the two weeks started again. Then their kid got it, so the two weeks started again. The teacher never got it but she was teaching from home 5 weeks I think?

There are also situations where teachers aren't interchangeable. At my school, there's on teacher who can teach the AP and post AP calc classes. They can't just switch her with one of the Algebra 1 teachers. There's one teacher who can teach a couple of the languages. Or there will be situations where things are uneven. So, there's 3 third grade teachers and they all have ADA protection, and none of the 2nd grade teachers do.


Or the teacher is not local and they are placing a monitor while she teaches from a distance.

True story.


Just out of curiosity, why does it matter?

My SIL a teacher with an accommodation. She moved in with us, so that her kids would have safe childcare so she could teach uninterrupted. If she had stayed home, she would have had the kids interrupting her teaching etc . . . It literally makes no difference to her students, so she wouldn't be in the classroom either way, so why wouldn't parents want her to make the choice she did?


It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.


She does have a accommodation, it was mentioned in the first sentence.


PP here. I was referencing my post at 13:05, not the SIL with the accommodation.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are lots of reasons why a teacher might be unavailable.

First, there will be situations where teachers are exposed when students aren't. I teach in person. We had a situation where a teacher and her husband spent time with someone, who was diagnosed the day after she saw him. Since the time period between the teacher seeing the person, and seeing students, was so short, the Health Department found there was no risk. So, the teacher was ordered to quarantine but not the class. Then during the teacher's two week quarantine her husband got the virus so the two weeks started again. Then their kid got it, so the two weeks started again. The teacher never got it but she was teaching from home 5 weeks I think?

There are also situations where teachers aren't interchangeable. At my school, there's on teacher who can teach the AP and post AP calc classes. They can't just switch her with one of the Algebra 1 teachers. There's one teacher who can teach a couple of the languages. Or there will be situations where things are uneven. So, there's 3 third grade teachers and they all have ADA protection, and none of the 2nd grade teachers do.


Or the teacher is not local and they are placing a monitor while she teaches from a distance.

True story.


Just out of curiosity, why does it matter?

My SIL a teacher with an accommodation. She moved in with us, so that her kids would have safe childcare so she could teach uninterrupted. If she had stayed home, she would have had the kids interrupting her teaching etc . . . It literally makes no difference to her students, so she wouldn't be in the classroom either way, so why wouldn't parents want her to make the choice she did?


It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.


How would you know whether your teacher has a reason to stay or not. ADA information is protected. My students certainly don't know why I won't be returning to the classroom.


I know because it is a co-worker. She isn’t my teacher. She teaching from outside of VA. Thousands of miles outside of VA. The monitor is being placed so she doesn’t have to come back to VA. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are lots of reasons why a teacher might be unavailable.

First, there will be situations where teachers are exposed when students aren't. I teach in person. We had a situation where a teacher and her husband spent time with someone, who was diagnosed the day after she saw him. Since the time period between the teacher seeing the person, and seeing students, was so short, the Health Department found there was no risk. So, the teacher was ordered to quarantine but not the class. Then during the teacher's two week quarantine her husband got the virus so the two weeks started again. Then their kid got it, so the two weeks started again. The teacher never got it but she was teaching from home 5 weeks I think?

There are also situations where teachers aren't interchangeable. At my school, there's on teacher who can teach the AP and post AP calc classes. They can't just switch her with one of the Algebra 1 teachers. There's one teacher who can teach a couple of the languages. Or there will be situations where things are uneven. So, there's 3 third grade teachers and they all have ADA protection, and none of the 2nd grade teachers do.


Or the teacher is not local and they are placing a monitor while she teaches from a distance.

True story.


Just out of curiosity, why does it matter?

My SIL a teacher with an accommodation. She moved in with us, so that her kids would have safe childcare so she could teach uninterrupted. If she had stayed home, she would have had the kids interrupting her teaching etc . . . It literally makes no difference to her students, so she wouldn't be in the classroom either way, so why wouldn't parents want her to make the choice she did?


It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.


How would you know whether your teacher has a reason to stay or not. ADA information is protected. My students certainly don't know why I won't be returning to the classroom.


I know because it is a co-worker. She isn’t my teacher. She teaching from outside of VA. Thousands of miles outside of VA. The monitor is being placed so she doesn’t have to come back to VA. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.



None of my coworkers know all of my medical history.

I'm the one with the SIL, I'm also a teacher. My SIL's school is on the opposite coast from where I live.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are lots of reasons why a teacher might be unavailable.

First, there will be situations where teachers are exposed when students aren't. I teach in person. We had a situation where a teacher and her husband spent time with someone, who was diagnosed the day after she saw him. Since the time period between the teacher seeing the person, and seeing students, was so short, the Health Department found there was no risk. So, the teacher was ordered to quarantine but not the class. Then during the teacher's two week quarantine her husband got the virus so the two weeks started again. Then their kid got it, so the two weeks started again. The teacher never got it but she was teaching from home 5 weeks I think?

There are also situations where teachers aren't interchangeable. At my school, there's on teacher who can teach the AP and post AP calc classes. They can't just switch her with one of the Algebra 1 teachers. There's one teacher who can teach a couple of the languages. Or there will be situations where things are uneven. So, there's 3 third grade teachers and they all have ADA protection, and none of the 2nd grade teachers do.


Or the teacher is not local and they are placing a monitor while she teaches from a distance.

True story.


Just out of curiosity, why does it matter?

My SIL a teacher with an accommodation. She moved in with us, so that her kids would have safe childcare so she could teach uninterrupted. If she had stayed home, she would have had the kids interrupting her teaching etc . . . It literally makes no difference to her students, so she wouldn't be in the classroom either way, so why wouldn't parents want her to make the choice she did?


It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.


She does have a accommodation, it was mentioned in the first sentence.


PP here. I was referencing my post at 13:05, not the SIL with the accommodation.


So the teacher that is not local who is getting a classroom monitor - does she NOT have an ADA accommodation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think two doses of the vaccine + 2 weeks more should render the ADA moot/no longer “reasonable.” It was reasonable up until that point.


this may be true but I don't think the issue is going to get resolved till the summer time. There is no evidence in the RTS slides that they are bringing back those teachers this year.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, classroom monitors will monitor a room full of students who have a virtual teacher


Why on earth would a teacher need to teach virtually? There is a vaccine out there.


Most teachers haven't been able to get their first dose yet. You aren't protected until a few weeks after your second dose. Hopefully by the time we get there, which would be early April, we'll know how well the vaccine prevents transmission.


Do think it is still “most”? DH and I went this last week and it seems most of our colleagues have now had their first dose or have appointments for this weekend or early next week. Those second doses will all be scheduled for mid to late February. Mine will fall around February 18 and students are tentatively proposed to return March 16 our grade levels.

We are with FCPS and I’m curious to know how many they have vaccinated through today.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are lots of reasons why a teacher might be unavailable.

First, there will be situations where teachers are exposed when students aren't. I teach in person. We had a situation where a teacher and her husband spent time with someone, who was diagnosed the day after she saw him. Since the time period between the teacher seeing the person, and seeing students, was so short, the Health Department found there was no risk. So, the teacher was ordered to quarantine but not the class. Then during the teacher's two week quarantine her husband got the virus so the two weeks started again. Then their kid got it, so the two weeks started again. The teacher never got it but she was teaching from home 5 weeks I think?

There are also situations where teachers aren't interchangeable. At my school, there's on teacher who can teach the AP and post AP calc classes. They can't just switch her with one of the Algebra 1 teachers. There's one teacher who can teach a couple of the languages. Or there will be situations where things are uneven. So, there's 3 third grade teachers and they all have ADA protection, and none of the 2nd grade teachers do.


Or the teacher is not local and they are placing a monitor while she teaches from a distance.

True story.


Just out of curiosity, why does it matter?

My SIL a teacher with an accommodation. She moved in with us, so that her kids would have safe childcare so she could teach uninterrupted. If she had stayed home, she would have had the kids interrupting her teaching etc . . . It literally makes no difference to her students, so she wouldn't be in the classroom either way, so why wouldn't parents want her to make the choice she did?


It matters because the teacher has no reason to stay out other than not coming back to VA. How many others would jump at the opportunity to work from elsewhere and have a monitor cover the class? FCPS shouldn’t be paying for that. The monitor should be used to cover for someone with an ADA accommodation.


She does have a accommodation, it was mentioned in the first sentence.


PP here. I was referencing my post at 13:05, not the SIL with the accommodation.


So the teacher that is not local who is getting a classroom monitor - does she NOT have an ADA accommodation?


Correct. That’s what I tried to explain at 14:22.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, classroom monitors will monitor a room full of students who have a virtual teacher


Why on earth would a teacher need to teach virtually? There is a vaccine out there.


Most teachers haven't been able to get their first dose yet. You aren't protected until a few weeks after your second dose. Hopefully by the time we get there, which would be early April, we'll know how well the vaccine prevents transmission.


Do the teachers with ADA accommodations plan to come back after they have the full vaccination?


What does the vaccination have to do with it? The vaccine prevents severe disease and death; it does not guarantee you will get COVID. Some have severely immune compromised family members that they could still pass it on to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think two doses of the vaccine + 2 weeks more should render the ADA moot/no longer “reasonable.” It was reasonable up until that point.


You "think"? Are you the teacher's medical professional? Some are granted for very sick or compromised family members that have not been vaccinated. Please consider yourself fortunate that apparently, this situation isn't one that affects your own family.
Anonymous
In ES, are teachers still doing two classes at a time, hence the need for the monitor in the class while they are in the other? I wasn't sure if that changed due to concurrent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, classroom monitors will monitor a room full of students who have a virtual teacher


Why on earth would a teacher need to teach virtually? There is a vaccine out there.


Most teachers haven't been able to get their first dose yet. You aren't protected until a few weeks after your second dose. Hopefully by the time we get there, which would be early April, we'll know how well the vaccine prevents transmission.


Do think it is still “most”? DH and I went this last week and it seems most of our colleagues have now had their first dose or have appointments for this weekend or early next week. Those second doses will all be scheduled for mid to late February. Mine will fall around February 18 and students are tentatively proposed to return March 16 our grade levels.

We are with FCPS and I’m curious to know how many they have vaccinated through today.



On my team, only one has gotten first dose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, classroom monitors will monitor a room full of students who have a virtual teacher


Why on earth would a teacher need to teach virtually? There is a vaccine out there.


Most teachers haven't been able to get their first dose yet. You aren't protected until a few weeks after your second dose. Hopefully by the time we get there, which would be early April, we'll know how well the vaccine prevents transmission.


Do think it is still “most”? DH and I went this last week and it seems most of our colleagues have now had their first dose or have appointments for this weekend or early next week. Those second doses will all be scheduled for mid to late February. Mine will fall around February 18 and students are tentatively proposed to return March 16 our grade levels.

We are with FCPS and I’m curious to know how many they have vaccinated through today.



On my team, only one has gotten first dose.



DP, if you are a teacher who got one dose consider yourselves lucky. There are a lot of us that haven’t gotten any info yet about dose 1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, classroom monitors will monitor a room full of students who have a virtual teacher


Why on earth would a teacher need to teach virtually? There is a vaccine out there.


Most teachers haven't been able to get their first dose yet. You aren't protected until a few weeks after your second dose. Hopefully by the time we get there, which would be early April, we'll know how well the vaccine prevents transmission.


Do the teachers with ADA accommodations plan to come back after they have the full vaccination?


What does the vaccination have to do with it? The vaccine prevents severe disease and death; it does not guarantee you will get COVID. Some have severely immune compromised family members that they could still pass it on to.



That’s not what ADA is for. ADA protects you from working because you could die. If you are vaccinated you no longer need it. And all of this what if about passing it on it totally absurd. But don’t worry scientists are working on proving what they know to be true — vaccinated people are not dangerous to others. Then you’ll need to find a new goal post.
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