TJ Town Hall #2

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Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

When Asians start backing, supporting black and Latinos issues/causes and not think of themselves as minority only when it favors them, then NAACP will take on Asians issues.

Many Asians are marching for BLM in various cities. BTS has donated millions to BLM and their fans also have donated lot of money and famously trolled Trump campaign rally (Oklahoma) etc.

Yes, a few Asians ( mostly younger ones) are marching and supporting BLM Now. But where were they before this year, before BLM? The vast majority of Asians are in fact against BLM and you know that. Check out any social platform.
Even in this forum, check out all the condescending, dismissive posts towards Black i.e. "they want to pander to the blacks".

Even assuming not many but only some Asians are marching for BLM, I do not see ANY blacks supporting Asians and opposing the discriminatory TJ proposal or any discriminations against Asians. I haven’t seen blacks donating ANY money for Asian causes either.

[Anonymous]

johnk wrote:Did he say they were going to vote on a proposal next month?

I am confused - is it dead or not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-admissions-change/2020/10/07/0a1f8faa-08a7-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html?outputType=amp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

When Asians start backing, supporting black and Latinos issues/causes and not think of themselves as minority only when it favors them, then NAACP will take on Asians issues.

Many Asians are marching for BLM in various cities. BTS has donated millions to BLM and their fans also have donated lot of money and famously trolled Trump campaign rally (Oklahoma) etc.

Yes, a few Asians ( mostly younger ones) are marching and supporting BLM Now. But where were they before this year, before BLM? The vast majority of Asians are in fact against BLM and you know that. Check out any social platform.
Even in this forum, check out all the condescending, dismissive posts towards Black i.e. "they want to pander to the blacks".

More examples of Asians supporting black causes:

NBC News:

“The November election has yet again thrust the Asian American community into the middle of a contentious affirmative action fight. This time, it's in California, with Proposition 16, a statewide ballot measure that would restore race-conscious decision-making in public education admissions, employment and contracting — practices that were banned in 1996.

The initiative has won the backing of more than 100 prominent Asian organizations, including the California API Legislative Caucus and Asian Americans Advancing Justice. But it's also facing stiff resistance from some parents who fear it would diminish their children's chances of getting into top-tier University of California schools, such as Berkeley and UCLA, even though the system accepts more Asian applicants than those from any other racial group.”

[Anonymous]

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johnk wrote:Did he say they were going to vote on a proposal next month?

I am confused - is it dead or not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-admissions-change/2020/10/07/0a1f8faa-08a7-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html?outputType=amp

It's on pause. Fairfax Sup needs to just fill out a form and bring it State Sec of Education by the 12th

The plan for TJ admissions will continue to be worked, they don't have all day but they have some time

[Anonymous]

Hint: if you are against making the school reflect the demographics of the county, you are racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hint: if you are against making the school reflect the demographics of the county, you are racist.

Does this also apply to Langley, or just TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

When Asians start backing, supporting black and Latinos issues/causes and not think of themselves as minority only when it favors them, then NAACP will take on Asians issues.

Many Asians are marching for BLM in various cities. BTS has donated millions to BLM and their fans also have donated lot of money and famously trolled Trump campaign rally (Oklahoma) etc.

Yes, a few Asians ( mostly younger ones) are marching and supporting BLM Now. But where were they before this year, before BLM? The vast majority of Asians are in fact against BLM and you know that. Check out any social platform.
Even in this forum, check out all the condescending, dismissive posts towards Black i.e. "they want to pander to the blacks".

Even assuming not many but only some Asians are marching for BLM, I do not see ANY blacks supporting Asians and opposing the discriminatory TJ proposal or any discriminations against Asians. I haven’t seen blacks donating ANY money for Asian causes either.

DP, but Blacks have been fighting for everyone who's been discriminated against in this country for ever. Learn your history.
Also, the proposed change is not discriminatory toward Asians. It opens the doors to more groups. TJ is not a birthright to Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

When Asians start backing, supporting black and Latinos issues/causes and not think of themselves as minority only when it favors them, then NAACP will take on Asians issues.

Many Asians are marching for BLM in various cities. BTS has donated millions to BLM and their fans also have donated lot of money and famously trolled Trump campaign rally (Oklahoma) etc.

Yes, a few Asians ( mostly younger ones) are marching and supporting BLM Now. But where were they before this year, before BLM? The vast majority of Asians are in fact against BLM and you know that. Check out any social platform.
Even in this forum, check out all the condescending, dismissive posts towards Black i.e. "they want to pander to the blacks".

More examples of Asians supporting black causes:

NBC News:

“The November election has yet again thrust the Asian American community into the middle of a contentious affirmative action fight. This time, it's in California, with Proposition 16, a statewide ballot measure that would restore race-conscious decision-making in public education admissions, employment and contracting — practices that were banned in 1996.

The initiative has won the backing of more than 100 prominent Asian organizations, including the California API Legislative Caucus and Asian Americans Advancing Justice. But it's also facing stiff resistance from some parents who fear it would diminish their children's chances of getting into top-tier University of California schools, such as Berkeley and UCLA, even though the system accepts more Asian applicants than those from any other racial group.”

LOL
You think that's "supporting black causes"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hint: if you are against making the school reflect the demographics of the county, you are racist.

As it currently stands you have to apply to TJ. There's no way for the student body to look like the county when the overwhelming majority of applicants don't look like the county. Even if we were to remove the requirement to apply, does the student body as a whole have the same number of students taking algebra 1 and meet the GPA requirements? I haven't seen data for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

Not as strong as the lack of empathy among Asians who rise to the top and then complain about the crumbs left for others.

Out of curiosity, do other groups prioritize education as much as we do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

Not as strong as the lack of empathy among Asians who rise to the top and then complain about the crumbs left for others.

Out of curiosity, do other groups prioritize education as much as we do?

look at private school enrollment. The people screaming at TJ think their snowflakes deserve a world class education on the tax payer's dime. Other groups care about education, they just don't have the same level of entitlement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

Not as strong as the lack of empathy among Asians who rise to the top and then complain about the crumbs left for others.

Out of curiosity, do other groups prioritize education as much as we do?

look at private school enrollment. The people screaming at TJ think their snowflakes deserve a world class education on the tax payer's dime. Other groups care about education, they just don't have the same level of entitlement

At least they have the brains to demand that entitlement. You on the other hand, my friend..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

Not as strong as the lack of empathy among Asians who rise to the top and then complain about the crumbs left for others.

Out of curiosity, do other groups prioritize education as much as we do?

I'm not sure if prioritizing education is an Asian thing as much as it is an immigrant thing. A lot of URMs at TJ and top colleges are 1st or 2nd gen African immigrants. It's kind of self selecting because immigrants leave a life they're accustomed to in order to do something new/challenging in an unfamiliar country. The parents are also often international students who had to be the best in their countries in order to score a scholarship/fellowship to study in the U.S. There are tons of Asians who don't prioritize education in Asia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

Not as strong as the lack of empathy among Asians who rise to the top and then complain about the crumbs left for others.

Out of curiosity, do other groups prioritize education as much as we do?

I'm not sure if prioritizing education is an Asian thing as much as it is an immigrant thing. A lot of URMs at TJ and top colleges are 1st or 2nd gen African immigrants. It's kind of self selecting because immigrants leave a life they're accustomed to in order to do something new/challenging in an unfamiliar country. The parents are also often international students who had to be the best in their countries in order to score a scholarship/fellowship to study in the U.S. There are tons of Asians who don't prioritize education in Asia.

East Asians do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good exchange why are asian and immigrants not symbols of diversity

Brabrand states that it's time to get more black and latinx students (URM)

I would really like to understand how the first point is the case.

- an immigrant (FWIW not Asian)

It's because blacks and to a lesser extent latinos have better lobbying bodies inside the democratic party apparatus to make their voices heard

It's always been fascinating to me why the NAACP doesn't take on asian issues and causes. Asians are people of color too. I know why cynically but the hypocrisy is pretty strong.

When Asians start backing, supporting black and Latinos issues/causes and not think of themselves as minority only when it favors them, then NAACP will take on Asians issues.

Many Asians are marching for BLM in various cities. BTS has donated millions to BLM and their fans also have donated lot of money and famously trolled Trump campaign rally (Oklahoma) etc.

Yes, a few Asians ( mostly younger ones) are marching and supporting BLM Now. But where were they before this year, before BLM? The vast majority of Asians are in fact against BLM and you know that. Check out any social platform.
Even in this forum, check out all the condescending, dismissive posts towards Black i.e. "they want to pander to the blacks".

Even assuming not many but only some Asians are marching for BLM, I do not see ANY blacks supporting Asians and opposing the discriminatory TJ proposal or any discriminations against Asians. I haven’t seen blacks donating ANY money for Asian causes either.

DP, but Blacks have been fighting for everyone who's been discriminated against in this country for ever. Learn your history.
Also, the proposed change is not discriminatory toward Asians. It opens the doors to more groups. TJ is not a birthright to Asians.

This whole argument is evident if the problem. When someone mentions making the school more diverse and fair, Asians are taking it personally.