Rush at UVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Computer generated GPA cuts? This is crazy talk. You, as a parent, cannot get grades without permission from your student.

The computer system they use for rush has the ability to do this. This is not a UVA thing, either.

Privacy violation.

You have to submit proof of GPA for sorority recruitment. At most schools that means you release your grades to Panhel. After you are a member, you release your grades to your sorority.

[Anonymous]

Why does she shit it down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read through the booklet that was linked on this thread. There are hundreds of young women pictured, and not one—not ONE!—woman of color. WTH?!

I’m white, if that matters. Is UVA really that non-diverse? Or do POC avoid UVA sororities? Or was it a bad choice of overall photos by the people who devised the booklet?

Sororities were traditionally segregated. White sororities for whites. Jewish sororities for Jews. AA sororities for African Americans. They have integrated in the last 50 years, but any integration is voluntary. It is more segregated at southern campuses than campuses elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone want to commiserate anonymously about the experience? I have shown as much restraint as I can muster and let DD lead the discussion which has been minimal before she intentionally shits it down. I sincerely hope she keeps an open mind after the last cut from 11 sororities down to 3 today. My only information is that these are not the 3 where she thought she had the best connection. One friend thinks there were computer-generated GPA cuts last PM which could partly explain the outcome. I have friends whose daughters are also rushing but we are avoiding the details this week as the results are all over the place.

Experienced parents, will you share advice for parenting through the next cuts and likely disappointments?

I know that DD and others will need to dig into and develop their resilience and this is just a life event and not the goal. Still, hearing your thoughts and experiences would be helpful for me.TIA!

Encourage her to stick it out through the process. Go all the way through the process before deciding to drop out. Go to any preference parties to which you are invited and listen with an open mind during the preference party. These groups are huge and there are all kinds of girls in every single one of them. If she decides to accept a bid from one of her groups that is not her favorite during recruitment, she'll be fine. Every sorority has women with whom she can make life long friends. In the end, the groups are not THAT different. Some look better during recruitment because they have more members with good recruitment skills, but you could assign women to sororities randomly and have about the same level of satisfaction with the outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you think OP is nuts. Her DD is going through what I know can be a crappy experience, and is definitely emotionally stressful. OP is venting here instead of to her daughter, because it sounds like DD wanted to rush and OP isn’t so into it. I didn’t get helicopter vibes from OP’s post. Are we now saying parents are crazy if they care about their kids’ experiences and feelings? Smh.

You cannot be serious. OP even says that she has friends whose kids are also rushing at UVA and they're comparing notes and rumors as to how cuts are made. That's insane. And, yes, helicopterish.

OP said they are avoiding discussing results. What's insane is your inability to read and clear tendency to judge.

[Anonymous]

Who in this day and age rushes a sorority? Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who in this day and age rushes a sorority? Grow up.

You’re so superior, dorking around on this website by yourself while those girls are having a blast.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you think OP is nuts. Her DD is going through what I know can be a crappy experience, and is definitely emotionally stressful. OP is venting here instead of to her daughter, because it sounds like DD wanted to rush and OP isn’t so into it. I didn’t get helicopter vibes from OP’s post. Are we now saying parents are crazy if they care about their kids’ experiences and feelings? Smh.

You cannot be serious. OP even says that she has friends whose kids are also rushing at UVA and they're comparing notes and rumors as to how cuts are made. That's insane. And, yes, helicopterish.

+100. Cut the cord.

[Anonymous]

It is a hard process to watch for sure!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Computer generated GPA cuts? This is crazy talk. You, as a parent, cannot get grades without permission from your student.

The computer system they use for rush has the ability to do this. This is not a UVA thing, either.

Privacy violation.

Not if the student waives it. Many sororities (much more so than fraternities) take great pride in their average gpa, and it can definitely be a reason to get cut. If you aren't carrying a good gpa from first semester, it will only get worse when you are pledging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read through the booklet that was linked on this thread. There are hundreds of young women pictured, and not one—not ONE!—woman of color. WTH?!

I’m white, if that matters. Is UVA really that non-diverse? Or do POC avoid UVA sororities? Or was it a bad choice of overall photos by the people who devised the booklet?

Sororities were traditionally segregated. White sororities for whites. Jewish sororities for Jews. AA sororities for African Americans. They have integrated in the last 50 years, but any integration is voluntary. It is more segregated at southern campuses than campuses elsewhere.

Kind of off topic, but I was at a predominantly white sorority that attempted to become more diverse, and we found that most of the AA women who were interested in sororities were legacies of traditionally AA sororities. We gave them bids, but they chose to pledge the traditionally AA sorority, which is understandable. In addition to all of the obvious racial/social aspects, AA sororities tend to be much more important lifetime social affiliation than the traditionally white sororities.

[Anonymous]

I was in a fraternity in college (like many here I'm sure). While I had some good times and the housing was a plus, I would not do it again if I had to do college over. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who in this day and age rushes a sorority? Grow up.

That’s like saying, why does anyone in this day and age go to all-girls schools? There is something to be said for having a supportive female network an developing long-lasting bonds.

[Anonymous]

If she doesn't get into a sorority she likes, she should check out VASST, the ski and snowboard club. They have a house at UVA near the Greek house. It's coed, I hear it's a lot of fun, and organized around activities. And like grown up "ski clubs" you don't even have to ski/board if you don't want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I call anti-UVA troll. I have a fourth year student at UVA sleep upstairs. The students don’t return until Jan 12. I checked the Pan-Hell calendar. there’s no activity right now. Bids don’t even go out until Jan 23.

guessing you didn't get accepted by UVA.