The Last Skywalker— with Spoilers

Anonymous
I would’ve liked this trilogy a lot better if JJ had directed all three. There were obviously things from The Last Jedi he didn’t want to ever happen, so he either had to fix them or ignore them in this movie (e.g., Rose & Finn, Rey’s lineage, Kylo’s helmet, Anakin/Luke’s broken lightsaber, etc,).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.
Anonymous
I enjoyed ROS but the blatant plot parallels to the original trilogy was so distracting.

Quick tell me original or Disney trilogy:

Evil imperialistic forces build enormous planet destroying base but rebel fighters in small craft using insider knowledge blow it up. And an older mentor to a young Jedi is struck down by saber of a Sith. And the movie starts on a desert planet with misplaced droid.

A terrible tale where the imperial forces end up with the upper hand, with battles on a white landscape and giant walkers menace regal forces. A wizened wise cracking master teaches an impatient young Jedi. An ally betrays them to the imperial forces.

Young Jedi rises to full power while the Emperor tries to turn them to the Dark Side. New allies are discovered on Endor. The emperor tortured the young Jedi, trying to fill with hate while they watch their friends die in an epic space battle. A sith turns from the dark side and saves them in the end before dying.

Anonymous
Just go with the flow and stop trying to take this all so seriously. You are wasting your life if you need to have every fantasy story tied down with logic. It's space fantasy. Eat your popcorn and suspend disbelief.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.
Anonymous
I am just glad that Disney took over. Apparently Lucas was going to double down on the midiclorians in his vision of the series end. Essentially, three more movies as bad as episodes 1-3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would’ve liked this trilogy a lot better if JJ had directed all three. There were obviously things from The Last Jedi he didn’t want to ever happen, so he either had to fix them or ignore them in this movie (e.g., Rose & Finn, Rey’s lineage, Kylo’s helmet, Anakin/Luke’s broken lightsaber, etc,).


I agree with this. 8 was not good, and JJ had to waste time fixing problems from 8.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


You misunderstood my point. I’m saying that a lot of the nitpicky criticism is ultimately about certain people being upset that the movie was woman-focused, and rather than saying that out loud (because they know how that would be received) they’re trying to shred it based on trivial things. My comment was a criticism of those people, not a vote of approval.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


I think the poster is saying that the reason there is so much nit picking, and primarily from men, is because women were the heroes and lots of male super fans can’t deal.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


You misunderstood my point. I’m saying that a lot of the nitpicky criticism is ultimately about certain people being upset that the movie was woman-focused, and rather than saying that out loud (because they know how that would be received) they’re trying to shred it based on trivial things. My comment was a criticism of those people, not a vote of approval.


I support women, but the forced casting (like the ladies gauntlet run in endgame) seems so forced (like the antenna guardian woman should fighting alongside Captain Marvel and Cobalt Pepper?)

SW ROS in general had a good mix and I don’t think I saw any girl squad moments (I know there were plenty of white male squads before but tit for tat doesn’t work)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


You misunderstood my point. I’m saying that a lot of the nitpicky criticism is ultimately about certain people being upset that the movie was woman-focused, and rather than saying that out loud (because they know how that would be received) they’re trying to shred it based on trivial things. My comment was a criticism of those people, not a vote of approval.


I support women, but the forced casting (like the ladies gauntlet run in endgame) seems so forced (like the antenna guardian woman should fighting alongside Captain Marvel and Cobalt Pepper?)

SW ROS in general had a good mix and I don’t think I saw any girl squad moments (I know there were plenty of white male squads before but tit for tat doesn’t work)


So you’re that it’s forced and unrealistic that in an alternative fantasy universe there could be all-female warrior groups just like there are all-male warrior groups?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


You misunderstood my point. I’m saying that a lot of the nitpicky criticism is ultimately about certain people being upset that the movie was woman-focused, and rather than saying that out loud (because they know how that would be received) they’re trying to shred it based on trivial things. My comment was a criticism of those people, not a vote of approval.


Got it. Yes, you are right about that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


You misunderstood my point. I’m saying that a lot of the nitpicky criticism is ultimately about certain people being upset that the movie was woman-focused, and rather than saying that out loud (because they know how that would be received) they’re trying to shred it based on trivial things. My comment was a criticism of those people, not a vote of approval.


I support women, but the forced casting (like the ladies gauntlet run in endgame) seems so forced (like the antenna guardian woman should fighting alongside Captain Marvel and Cobalt Pepper?)

SW ROS in general had a good mix and I don’t think I saw any girl squad moments (I know there were plenty of white male squads before but tit for tat doesn’t work)


So you’re that it’s forced and unrealistic that in an alternative fantasy universe there could be all-female warrior groups just like there are all-male warrior groups?


Hahaha, spot on.

It's just not realistic in the totally made up SW universe that the poor white male warrior squads might not be the stars of one movie out of the series. Really just unrealistic.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Force healing is not something just any Jedi can do whenever they want. It's a light side ability and not everyone has it. Rey developing it makes sense since she's very strong in the light side. Kylo being able to do it makes less sense EXCEPT for the fact that (he said during the movie) the two of them are a force "dyad" so two parts of the same whole.


Exactly. That has implications for what they can do. Also, different Jedis can do different things. We don’t know everything the Force can do, so it would make sense that we wouldn’t have seen the totality of what could be done in the original trilogy. The Force is mysterious and no one ever said “this is everything the Force can do.”

Rey is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. She was set up to finally defeat Palpatine — something no other Jedi could do. Wouldn’t it make sense she could access abilities others couldn’t? Kylo Ren was similarly strong, but not quite as strong as her.

I loved the movie and don’t get all the nit picking, frankly.


Start with the fact that it’s women who ultimately save them all, and you’ll figure it out fast.


Woman here. Nobody cares about that. People don’t like poorly written characters. Male or female.

I liked Finn a lot more than Rey in these films. Nothing to do with hating women.

DP. Okay, you are obviously just dim. If that's your criticism, you can't be taken remotely seriously. My favorite is 4, and men save them all there. Leia's role in 4 is smaller and less complex than the roles of the multiple men in 9. Yet I manage to enjoy it deeply.

I thought you were going to have something substantive to say, but you're just a whiny incel.


I think the poster is saying that the reason there is so much nit picking, and primarily from men, is because women were the heroes and lots of male super fans can’t deal.
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