Affirmative Action should be income-based, not race-based
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Wow, thanks for illustrating your sense of insecurity. Notice I never called into question your capabilities or your success, yet you felt such a strong need to demonstrate to me that you are indeed successful based on your capabilities. Regardless, there is a limited number of spots at Harvard, people who are accepted at Harvard get the benefit of a high-quality Harvard education, networking, and admittance into a circle of privilege - there is nothing wrong with any of this. In any year, Harvard admits far fewer students than those that would be successful at Harvard. By you taking a spot using the color of your skin is to deny someone else the same benefits and privileges that come with a Harvard education. Your success doesn't change the fact that it came at the expense of someone else, due to the color of your skin. That's shameful. |
Anonymous
You're on your own. The FBI is dealing with seemingly systemic issues in higher ed. Let's let them deal with unlawful activities which impact every last one of us as Americans trying desperately to encourage our children to reach that brass ring to the best of their God given ability. By them hearing that from you - instead of giving them an excuse that x, y, or z held them back is a recipe to create an adult who falls short of their abilities. I tell my children they'd be lucky if issues, such as these, were the only thing that held them back. There are bigger and more important issues to prioritize. |
Anonymous
As an Asian American, I'm teaching my kids that the world is not fair, that Affirmative Action is not an excuse for failure but an extra hurdle that they can and must overcome. At the same time, I will point out the racist nature of affirmative action since it is true, and work to eliminate it because it is just to do so. |
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I AGREE!!! We are a middle class, educated, mixed-race couple. There are inherent advantages to being middle class, that in my mind supercede those of skin color. |
Anonymous
As a parent born in Asia but, not Asian, I am in your shoes when the programs cull the tens of thousands of applications. I also recognize that cream rises to the top and it always will. The DOJ addressed this issue with Harvard. The FBI is in the middle of addressing this. Focusing on this instead of surmounting the seemingly insurmountable is futile. Every person and student I know who went to Harvard deserved to be there. |
Anonymous
White trash with money is the worst kind. You really don’t get it. |
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| I am mixed race with two DC already in college so this issue isn’t all that critical for me but I’ve always been curious about the definition of white students with respect to admissions. The elite colleges are about 50% URM, over-represented minority (Asian American) and international, so that leaves 50% as white. Typically, half of those white identifying students are Jewish so non-jewish whites account for roughly 25% of the student body. Currently about 60% of Americans identify as non-Jewish white.....so isn’t that population actually underrepresented? |
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Thanks for clarifying. Good luck to you. |
Anonymous
I'm focusing on this in the context of this thread. I have mentioned it to my kids but it's far from being the focus of their education. I disagree that it is futile to try and fight against racist policies. We owe it to our kids to fight for a more just world. Going to Harvard is a privilege, and I agree with you that there are more people who meet the qualifications of attending Harvard than admitted. But someone receiving the privilege of going to Harvard based on the color of their skin, at the expense of someone else who has a different color of skin, is not a reality we should be propagating in the modern day. |
Anonymous
This. This. This. I'll add I'm not a fan of this thread. |
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I am not talking about myself. I had the highest grades in my school. I am speaking of B+ white students who are losing their seats to B- black students, and believe me, we are talking about more than just five black stidents. If it mKes you feel better to think that a middle-class black kid has not raced a poorer white kid with better grades, so be it. But you are lying to yourself. |
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Raced s/b replaced |
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I'm with you! Consider this: AA was designed to give the descendants of black Americans, who had suffered under Jim Crow and slavery, special consideration. Many people agreed that though imperfect, this was a justifiable policy for a finite number of years. Then, activists expanded it to include women. OK. Then, the justification shifted to "diversity", which we're told is unquestionably good. Suddenly, recent immigrants from Mexico are given preference over native born whites, even though there is no wrong to right. Now, finally, I read (on twitter and elsewhere) that capitalism, imperialism, and settler colonialism are the unforgivable original sins of whiteness, and America is a racist, sexist, genocidal, patriarchal fraud squatting on stolen land. It is invalid and rotten to the core -- as is whiteness -- and it's pay back time big time. |
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Bump. Thoughts? |