Why deny UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Admissions rates are higher in state, which might be why the locals don't see it as big of a deal?

Total applications: 40,869 (37,182 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 12,010
Total number of OOS apps: 28,859

Overall offers: 9,787
Total VA offers: 4,331 (36% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,456 (19% offer rate)

60% of acceptees choose other schools. 40% yield rate tells me that people are using UVA as their safety. I know my kid did.

Most in-state Virginians trying for Ivies use UVA as a safety. Everyone knows that. We did as well. Of course it's a crapshoot getting into Ivies nowadays if you don't have a hook so we were thrilled to get into UVA. UVA doesn't practice yield protection like the privates do. It doesn't have the admissions office resources to play the USN&WR game.

All universities play the USN&WR game... that is why they have Spring admits that don't count against their % acceptance rate and that is why they are not growing the school to meet the needs of VA HS students. UVA is small for a flagship university considering how big the state is... that keeps their acceptance rate down and their USN&WR score up.

No UVA doesn't play the ratings games. Most publics don't because their have a different purpose and mission often dictated by the state legislature (yes, I know UVA spun itself off, etc. etc. etc.). No, UVA's admissions office is too small to try and figure out which students will actually show up. That's why they don't even take down students' names for tours anymore. It's a small state run admissions office. It's not Yale, Harvard, STanford or Princeton trying to win the battle each year on "yield". State flagships don't have to play the ratings games.

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Anonymous wrote:Admissions rates are higher in state, which might be why the locals don't see it as big of a deal?

Total applications: 40,869 (37,182 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 12,010
Total number of OOS apps: 28,859

Overall offers: 9,787
Total VA offers: 4,331 (36% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,456 (19% offer rate)

60% of acceptees choose other schools. 40% yield rate tells me that people are using UVA as their safety. I know my kid did.

Most in-state Virginians trying for Ivies use UVA as a safety. Everyone knows that. We did as well. Of course it's a crapshoot getting into Ivies nowadays if you don't have a hook so we were thrilled to get into UVA. UVA doesn't practice yield protection like the privates do. It doesn't have the admissions office resources to play the USN&WR game.

All universities play the USN&WR game... that is why they have Spring admits that don't count against their % acceptance rate and that is why they are not growing the school to meet the needs of VA HS students. UVA is small for a flagship university considering how big the state is... that keeps their acceptance rate down and their USN&WR score up.

No UVA doesn't play the ratings games. Most publics don't because their have a different purpose and mission often dictated by the state legislature (yes, I know UVA spun itself off, etc. etc. etc.). No, UVA's admissions office is too small to try and figure out which students will actually show up. That's why they don't even take down students' names for tours anymore. It's a small state run admissions office. It's not Yale, Harvard, STanford or Princeton trying to win the battle each year on "yield". State flagships don't have to play the ratings games.

Yes they do... they want to keep their rankings up so they have ways... like low SAT scores are admitted to Spring semester so it does not go against their rankings.

How do you not know this... every school does this.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing you can't deny...

UVA owned Yale like a bitch in the NCAA lacrosse championship this weekend.

#WINNING

But the Yale lax players graduate from Yale.

And they wouldn't be at Yale at all if they didn't play lax.

But they could be at UVA even if they didn't play lax.

Not if they were a white boy from NoVA.

Sure they could.

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Anonymous wrote:In the 2019 US News reputation survey of 25,000 high school counselors across the country UVA ranked 23rd, tied with Tufts, Emory, NYU, Michigan, etc. I’d say that’s pretty good company - And remember that this is a national survey, not a regional one.

No, it’s not Ivy League, but there aren’t that many schools ahead of it, and I bet the large majority of parents on this board could not get their kids in.

LOL. Survey of HS counselors?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know where UVA ranks as a university, but it sure seems like no college alums have as much insecurity about their school as UVA alums. You're #1!

+1

The #1 insecure boosters!!

(I think it's a perfectly fine school, but think the boosters on DCUM are NUTSO.)

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Anonymous wrote:A university with a 26% acceptance rate isn't considered prestigious.

I remember when the Ivies had 26% acceptance rates.... and when Chicago admitted more than half. I think even up to 60%.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is the most prestigious "public ivy" offering a far better experience than any of the Ivy League schools.





(happy now? )

You’re missing my point. I’d like to hear folks insist that it isn't when we all know that it is. What’s the psychology behind that?

OK, I'll bite. UVA and 3rd tier when it comes to recruiting in top banks, startups, and top consultant companies. It's still a state school.

Plenty of UVA grads on Wall Street.

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UVA is FCPS South.

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Anonymous wrote:A university with a 26% acceptance rate isn't considered prestigious.

As an academic I think UVA is a good school and a solid choice for my child. However, UVA is not a prestigious university or a research powerhouse. Therefore, it was not on my list of desirable institutions to pursue a Tier 1 tenure track job.

Beggars can't be choosers, as any real academic will tell you. Most "academics" would be thrilled to get offers to teach at UVA. --

And your writing style makes your claim to be an academic somewhat dubious. I'm skeptical. Let me guess, you're a kid with a fetish for bashing UVA and trying to cover your tracks by pretending to be reasonable through claiming you would be happy for your hypothetical child to go to UVA.

-- poster with absolutely no affiliation with UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know where UVA ranks as a university, but it sure seems like no college alums have as much insecurity about their school as UVA alums. You're #1!

Nah. Same old troll.

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This thread reminds me of one of the advantages of graduating from Harvard (and probably Stanford and MIT). Graduates from those schools don't have to fight the endless (and usually meaningless) relative prestige game.

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Anonymous wrote:A university with a 26% acceptance rate isn't considered prestigious.

As an academic I think UVA is a good school and a solid choice for my child. However, UVA is not a prestigious university or a research powerhouse. Therefore, it was not on my list of desirable institutions to pursue a Tier 1 tenure track job.

Beggars can't be choosers, as any real academic will tell you. Most "academics" would be thrilled to get offers to teach at UVA. --

And your writing style makes your claim to be an academic somewhat dubious. I'm skeptical. Let me guess, you're a kid with a fetish for bashing UVA and trying to cover your tracks by pretending to be reasonable through claiming you would be happy for your hypothetical child to go to UVA.

-- poster with absolutely no affiliation with UVA.

Regardless of where you go if on a tenure track it is usually publish or perish. I think tenure track faculty are most concerned, unfortunately, about positions where they will have what they think is a relatively heavy teaching load when they know they have to produce research and papers.

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Anonymous wrote:A university with a 26% acceptance rate isn't considered prestigious.

I remember when the Ivies had 26% acceptance rates.... and when Chicago admitted more than half. I think even up to 60%.

Yes. Things have changed. I recall Chicago admitting half and when Vanderbilt had SATs considerably lower than UVA and William and Mary. The common application and no repercussions from driving up the number of applicants from likely rejects were major factors.

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Anonymous wrote:A university with a 26% acceptance rate isn't considered prestigious.

As an academic I think UVA is a good school and a solid choice for my child. However, UVA is not a prestigious university or a research powerhouse. Therefore, it was not on my list of desirable institutions to pursue a Tier 1 tenure track job.

Beggars can't be choosers, as any real academic will tell you. Most "academics" would be thrilled to get offers to teach at UVA. --

And your writing style makes your claim to be an academic somewhat dubious. I'm skeptical. Let me guess, you're a kid with a fetish for bashing UVA and trying to cover your tracks by pretending to be reasonable through claiming you would be happy for your hypothetical child to go to UVA.

-- poster with absolutely no affiliation with UVA.

Yep. This kid can't be an academic: "...not on my list...to pursue a Tier 1 tenure track job..." LOL. Sweetie, that's not how it works.

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I think being in the top 25 is pretty great. Not everyone is headed for the Ivies, folks.