Our school only had one child accepted into AAP

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Not our center school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Not our center school.

My kid got rejected from a center school with high test scores and glowing gbrs. I thought it was the opposite.

I think our AART did not do a good job doing critical thinking samples.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

NP. I'm not sure. My kid is in AAP at Bull Run. Our base school is VRES. I'm pretty sure we send the lion's share of AAP students to that program. It's not a ton of kids, but it's probably 15-20 per grade some years. The kids who are already at Bull Run make up the second-largest chunk. There are some kids wo are found eligible and decide not to go, for various reasons. There are also a lot of kids who live out that way and attend private schools because their parents aren't impressed with the school's offerings for Gen Ed.

It seems kind of dumb that VRES isn't willing to entertain a LLIV center. I'm surprised the people who live in the neighborhood haven't pushed hard for it, since the school's test scores and overall data would definitely look a lot better.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Not our center school.

My kid got rejected from a center school with high test scores and glowing gbrs. I thought it was the opposite.

I think our AART did not do a good job doing critical thinking samples.

This assertion holds little weight unless you share the actual data. What were the scores and what were the GBRS ratings?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Not our center school.

My kid got rejected from a center school with high test scores and glowing gbrs. I thought it was the opposite.

I think our AART did not do a good job doing critical thinking samples.

This assertion holds little weight unless you share the actual data. What were the scores and what were the GBRS ratings?

Whatever. If a kid had high test scores and glowing GBRS, it’s safe to assume the work samples doomed the file. What worse could it be? You don’t need all the stats .

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

NP. I'm not sure. My kid is in AAP at Bull Run. Our base school is VRES. I'm pretty sure we send the lion's share of AAP students to that program. It's not a ton of kids, but it's probably 15-20 per grade some years. The kids who are already at Bull Run make up the second-largest chunk. There are some kids wo are found eligible and decide not to go, for various reasons. There are also a lot of kids who live out that way and attend private schools because their parents aren't impressed with the school's offerings for Gen Ed.

It seems kind of dumb that VRES isn't willing to entertain a LLIV center. I'm surprised the people who live in the neighborhood haven't pushed hard for it, since the school's test scores and overall data would definitely look a lot better.

20 kids per grade should easily be enough for a local level 4. My guess is losing those kids would put the center out of business numbers-wise, so someone in admin is saying no-but I have no idea how it really works to get a local level 4 started.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

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Bull Run only had around 17 kids in two AAP third grade classes this year. They wouldn’t have a center if they lost 15 kids per grade from one of their feeder schools. If fewer kids county-wide got in this year than last, the center there will be barely functioning. 17 kids in a class is a really small a cohort for kids to make new friends etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

It’s not like kids at center schools are 40% more likely to be gifted than kids at schools where only one or two kids get in! It makes no sense logically. I had no idea there was such a huge imbalance in numbers of admitted second graders.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

I really would love to see some stats on applications. I suspect that more parents refer from Centers because more parents are aware of the program. I suspect that more higher income families parent refer because they want their child in the "best" program or see AAP as a status symbol.

Break out by school, what percent of kids are in-pool based on test scores.
Break out by school, what percent of kids are parent referred.
Break out by school, what percent of kids appeal the decision.

I doubt that we will see those stats because it would more likely point to the fact that higher SES families are engaged and active with AAP and schools associated with high FARM and ESOL rates are not engaged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

NP. I'm not sure. My kid is in AAP at Bull Run. Our base school is VRES. I'm pretty sure we send the lion's share of AAP students to that program. It's not a ton of kids, but it's probably 15-20 per grade some years. The kids who are already at Bull Run make up the second-largest chunk. There are some kids wo are found eligible and decide not to go, for various reasons. There are also a lot of kids who live out that way and attend private schools because their parents aren't impressed with the school's offerings for Gen Ed.

It seems kind of dumb that VRES isn't willing to entertain a LLIV center. I'm surprised the people who live in the neighborhood haven't pushed hard for it, since the school's test scores and overall data would definitely look a lot better.

20 kids per grade should easily be enough for a local level 4. My guess is losing those kids would put the center out of business numbers-wise, so someone in admin is saying no-but I have no idea how it really works to get a local level 4 started.

I don’t know either, but the two schools aren’t even in the same region. Something is very off, if you ask me.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible to only have one third grade class and still be a called a center?

I don't think so.

My data is old but when my oldest was in elementary school, our AAP center (which is our base elementary school) only had 1 AAP class per grade. My DS is now a freshman in college and he left elementary school in 2012. The AAP center population slowly increased and by the time my youngest left elementary school, in 2017, most of the grades had 2 AAP classes and some had 3.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

It’s not like kids at center schools are 40% more likely to be gifted than kids at schools where only one or two kids get in! It makes no sense logically. I had no idea there was such a huge imbalance in numbers of admitted second graders.

Some families do choose a house near a center school if they think their children will be in AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

It’s not like kids at center schools are 40% more likely to be gifted than kids at schools where only one or two kids get in! It makes no sense logically. I had no idea there was such a huge imbalance in numbers of admitted second graders.

Before we moved, we were zoned for a center where there were 3-4 AAP classrooms and just 1-2 GE. If we had stayed, I would have pushed and prepped like hell to get my DC in so they weren’t in the “dumb” classes. That atmosphere was toxic.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does it seem like center schools have a lot more of their second graders going into AAP than regular old schools?

Yes. Louise Archer past few years has about 30%-35% of second graders go on to AAP for third. I don’t know if more people refer at center schools, more people prep or what?

It’s not like kids at center schools are 40% more likely to be gifted than kids at schools where only one or two kids get in! It makes no sense logically. I had no idea there was such a huge imbalance in numbers of admitted second graders.

Before we moved, we were zoned for a center where there were 3-4 AAP classrooms and just 1-2 GE. If we had stayed, I would have pushed and prepped like hell to get my DC in so they weren’t in the “dumb” classes. That atmosphere was toxic.

Whoa, is this common? AAP shouldn't outnumber gen ed. That is horrible.