2019 AAP Results

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Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, what are the odds of a child who is in the referral pool NOT getting in?

I don't know the odds but my oldest did not initially get into Level 4 when he was in the pool in 2nd grade.

My kid was "in the pool" this year based on her test scores and did not get in. Her older sister had much lower test scores and a lower reading level and was in the first round after I parent-referred. This seems like such a crap shoot.

I have a 4th grader in AAP now and a 1st grader who I will likely parent refer next year so I’m following this thread loosely for background info.
When my oldest was admitted you need a 132 composite on the Cogat to be in pool. This year I believe it’s a 132 on any one section to get in. Therefore I wondered if we might see more in pool rejections this year if only one Cogat subsection was high which got the kid in pool but other sections were low.

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Anonymous wrote:Level 3 is a joke at our school. 1-2 hours a month with a part time art.

exactly. That is why there is such a push to get kids into Level 4 -- b/c there is a cliff b/t level 3 and level 4. It's an "all" or "almost-nothing" situation.

If they are in level 3 plus highest math and highest reading group it shouldn’t be a huge difference.

are you not getting it? Level 3 = 45 min. in ONE subject each quarter for 45 min per week. So, if you are in "Level 3" at my kids' elem. school, and if you are lucky enough to get the pull outs each quarter (that is not guaranteed even if your CogAT is 130), then the most you can get is 45 min (TOTAL) per week for about 6 weeks out of each quarter. I think that IS a "huge difference" compared to fulltime AAP at a center.

My Level III child gets advanced math every day (which is the same as AAP math), above grade level language arts materials every day along with the other kids in the highest reading group, advanced word study grouping once per week, the 1 hour AAP pull out once/week, and some academic extracurriculars available only to the kids in Level III. I know these services are school-based and not standardized across all FCPS schools, but they ought to be. Level III looks much less dismal when you at least get advanced math, advanced language arts groups, and teachers who differentiate for their strongest students.

My LIV child's AAP center does not offer advanced math to gen ed students at all until 5th or 6th grade, which is a shame for the gen ed kids who are talented in math.

This is the same at my LLIV school. The Level III kids go to the AAP class for math and/or advanced language arts (some kids are both, some only one subject) and get an AAP pullout once a week. And since the AAP kids generally follow the same curriculum as Gen Ed (with the exception of advanced math), it's not a big deal.

At schools with a high FARMs population/low performing population, the level 3/enrichment opportunities just aren't there.

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Please keep this thread for AAP results and make a new thread to discuss level III vs level IV locally or center

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NNAT: 108
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 119/132/124 Composite 130
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Letter only, no work samples
WISC: NO
Zip Code: 22180
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN

I am completely surprised given her test results! I really thought I she would not get in without a WISC test.

Congrats. Louise Archer?

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else getting the sense that without the numeric GBRS, the teacher commentary becomes a total mystery? Like if you have a teacher who is great at saving samples and writing commentary, that makes much more of a difference without the numeric number for the committee to look at.

I think the teacher commentary has always been more important than the numbers, and that's probably why they abandoned the number system. The work samples provided by the school are also incredibly important. You can't necessarily predict whether a child will be IN or OUT based on just scores.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119
Cogat 132 (v 132 / q 128 / nv 126)
GBRS ?

Not in.

I’m thinking about appealing. Do I have to schedule a WISC?

This was my post and I just got her packet. GBRS were 2 consistently and the rest were frequently. Great teacher comments. DRA is 34. Area of strength in both math and reading. I did not submit any work samples and the ones submitted were really terrible. All 4s on report cards.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119
Cogat 132 (v 132 / q 128 / nv 126)
GBRS ?

Not in.

I’m thinking about appealing. Do I have to schedule a WISC?

This was my post and I just got her packet. GBRS were 2 consistently and the rest were frequently. Great teacher comments. DRA is 34. Area of strength in both math and reading. I did not submit any work samples and the ones submitted were really terrible. All 4s on report cards.

I would definitely schedule a WISC and appeal.

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DH opened the letter and told me DS was in.

I don't have the scores in front of me but I think it was approximately...
NNAT: 117
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 128ish/133ish/124ish Composite 132 or 133
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) don't know - did not get the packet
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N): I filled out the questionnaire and did a couple work samples
WISC: Glad we don't have to
Zip Code: 22046
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN

DS is at the top of his class and there's no doubt that he's academically advanced... but I wasn't sure if he was a shoo-in - the test scores seemed on the cusp. Glad he's in - I think he'll do well.

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NNAT 112
CogAT Composite 135 (127/136/128)
Don't know GBRS
DRA 28

Not In

I'm surprised because CogAT overall was 99th % for age, 96th% local.

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NNAT 136
COGAT 148 composite (V 134, Q 148, NV 136)
GBRS all consistently
WISC No
In pool- completed parent questionnaire
Admitted Yes
Zip 22003

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 112
CogAT Composite 135 (127/136/128)
Don't know GBRS
DRA 28

Not In

I'm surprised because CogAT overall was 99th % for age, 96th% local.

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Surprised by this one too.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 112
CogAT Composite 135 (127/136/128)
Don't know GBRS
DRA 28

Not In

I'm surprised because CogAT overall was 99th % for age, 96th% local.

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Surprised by this one too.

I am this PP. We provided parent questionnaire and referral form (was in-pool also). Did not do a WISC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 112
CogAT Composite 135 (127/136/128)
Don't know GBRS
DRA 28

Not In

I'm surprised because CogAT overall was 99th % for age, 96th% local.

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Surprised by this one too.

I am this PP. We provided parent questionnaire and referral form (was in-pool also). Did not do a WISC.

Get the packet and look at the work samples and GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 119
Cogat 132 (v 132 / q 128 / nv 126)
GBRS ?

Not in.

I’m thinking about appealing. Do I have to schedule a WISC?

This was my post and I just got her packet. GBRS were 2 consistently and the rest were frequently. Great teacher comments. DRA is 34. Area of strength in both math and reading. I did not submit any work samples and the ones submitted were really terrible. All 4s on report cards.

The WISC is the safest way to appeal, but it's possible to get in with just a strong parent letter and good work samples. In the parent letter, clearly explain why your child's needs cannot be met in gen ed without saying that she's bored. I would include that the teachers who work with her every day seem to think that her needs cannot be met in the regular classroom based on the GBRS and teacher comments.

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NNAT: 108
COGAT: (V / Q / NV / Composite) 119/132/124 Composite 130
GBRS: (#Consistent / #Frequent / #Occasional) 2 consistent and 2 frequent
In-Pool: (Y/N) : Y
Parent Referral: (Y/N): Letter only, no work samples
WISC: NO
Zip Code: 22180
AAP Decision: (IN / NOT IN) - IN

I am completely surprised given her test results! I really thought I she would not get in without a WISC test.

Congrats. Louise Archer?

No, our center is Westbriar.