Think she cheated on her SAT?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Surely there’s a better way to handle this than to immediately ask people to give $100K.

If you actually didn't cheat, then yeah of course. Just take the exam again

I disagree. Preparing for these exams is arduous and a major time suck from other commitments. It is also stressful, and would be more so if you had to take it again to prove your innocence.

I have no idea if this person cheated, but if she did not, I can certainly understand why she isn't simply offering to take it again.

But once you’ve studied and prepared you should have command of the information and be able to take the test again.

I dunno. Under this level of stress and pressure (being accused of cheating by the very makers of the test you're taking), one might choke when taking it again.

Lots of people take these tests many times. It’s not like it’s unusual to take SATs more than once or twice. If you’ve spent a lot of time prepping, you should know the material pretty well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

How do they investigate? It seems like it would be impossible to prove cheating. Did they have your child do a retake?

I have no idea what they did. We simply got a note informing us that they automatically hold scores with 350 or more improvement and investigate whether they are "valid" before releasing them. So we knew she had a big jump. And after a few months we got the results.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

This is my thought, too. My kid’s score was flagged after a very high jump, but was released after an investigation.

That’s ridiculous. What right do they have to do that?

My kids’ SSAT scores went up from a 50 percentile to a 93 percentile on one part of the test and there was no ‘investigation’ and I would have been really mad if there had been. Do they not suitably proctor the tests with all of the money that they receive from us??? Instead they’re all just buying their Betsy Devos sized McMansions and going on cruises on their yachts?

Because data. Because math. Because millions and millions and millions of students have taken the SAT over the years and they know what’s normal and what’s not and how exceedingly rare it is for someone to gain as many points as this young lady did

Kind of like how your credit card company knows your habits and will flag your card if they see purchases that are in a very different location.

[Anonymous]

Was her test score flagged because she had raised her score by 300 points or was it flagged because her answers matched the answers of other test takers in the room? Or was it a combination of both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was her test score flagged because she had raised her score by 300 points or was it flagged because her answers matched the answers of other test takers in the room? Or was it a combination of both?

All big raises get flagged for review

The matching was why they concluded she cheated

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you even read the OP?

Look:

"Our preliminary concerns are based on substantial agreement between your answers on one or more scored sections of the test and those of other test takers."

But how could they even collude? Isn't there a proctor?

that was my thought. who were these other kids, and how did they do it?

[Anonymous]

If she’s unwilling to simply retake the test then she cheated.

[Anonymous]

I see the go fund me is working well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she’s unwilling to simply retake the test then she cheated.

Bullsh!t either/or fallacy. If the scores are already due for fall admissions, she needs THOSE scores. And I have taught long enough to know that depending on testing conditions, your score can just as easily go down as well as up.

If she didnt cheat, she should absolutely fight for THIS score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she’s unwilling to simply retake the test then she cheated.

Agree.

Her alternative strategy here seems to be:

- hire high-profile attorney,

- create GFundMe

- Gin up national publicity to drive funds to GoFundMe

- play the victim card and hope Harvard waives their SAT standards like they did for Hogg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was her test score flagged because she had raised her score by 300 points or was it flagged because her answers matched the answers of other test takers in the room? Or was it a combination of both?

All big raises get flagged for review

The matching was why they concluded she cheated

Yes - but she was starting in the 900s. A 300 score increase is totally normal with prep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you even read the OP?

Look:

"Our preliminary concerns are based on substantial agreement between your answers on one or more scored sections of the test and those of other test takers."

But how could they even collude? Isn't there a proctor?

that was my thought. who were these other kids, and how did they do it?

If her answers matched her neighbors and they all had the same VERSION of the test, then what's weird about that? However, if they had matching sections and they all had DIFFERENT versions of the test, then yeah, there was cheating going on.

[Anonymous]

Crummy high school ... mediocre GPA ... attention seeking ... begging for $100,000 on go find me ... sorry sweetie, I’m leaning towards cheater who was caught red handed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was her test score flagged because she had raised her score by 300 points or was it flagged because her answers matched the answers of other test takers in the room? Or was it a combination of both?

All big raises get flagged for review

The matching was why they concluded she cheated

Yes - but she was starting in the 900s. A 300 score increase is totally normal with prep.

normal??? no it’s not. not on the 1600 version.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crummy high school ... mediocre GPA ... attention seeking ... begging for $100,000 on go find me ... sorry sweetie, I’m leaning towards cheater who was caught red handed.

You have exactly as much evidence for that as I have that you store dead hookers in your trunk.

Sweetie.