Think she cheated on her SAT?

[Anonymous]

Confused, that quote about answers matching someone else is in the comments but I did not see it in the article.

[Anonymous]

So how much do people expect scores to go up when they spent thousands on SAT classes and tutoring for their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Confused, that quote about answers matching someone else is in the comments but I did not see it in the article.

That's a good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surely there’s a better way to handle this than to immediately ask people to give $100K.

If you actually didn't cheat, then yeah of course. Just take the exam again

I disagree. Preparing for these exams is arduous and a major time suck from other commitments. It is also stressful, and would be more so if you had to take it again to prove your innocence.

I have no idea if this person cheated, but if she did not, I can certainly understand why she isn't simply offering to take it again.

Agreed. I’d be pissed if someone ne accused me of cheating. So demoralizing if she truly studied hard for that result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did I understand the article correctly that the higher score was 1230?

That is still a really low SAT score, and would have more than a few incorrect answers. Is it possible that one section matched exactly the kid on one side of her, and the other section matched the kid on the other side?

1230 is 77th percentile nationally. Get out of your bubble!

But 1230 is still not scholarship level and in the article she is talking about scholarships.

She has a lot more to go if she wants scholarships.

It is for minorities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So how much do people expect scores to go up when they spent thousands on SAT classes and tutoring for their kids?

Most research shows gains between 30-60 points due to tutoring on average. Gains of 300 points are not just from tutoring. It's possible she had an anomalously bad day before and an anomalously good day on the retake. Or she could have cheated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did I understand the article correctly that the higher score was 1230?

That is still a really low SAT score, and would have more than a few incorrect answers. Is it possible that one section matched exactly the kid on one side of her, and the other section matched the kid on the other side?

1230 is 77th percentile nationally. Get out of your bubble!

But 1230 is still not scholarship level and in the article she is talking about scholarships.

She has a lot more to go if she wants scholarships.

It is for minorities

That's probably 98th percentile or so for black SAT takers. Blacks generally score about one standard deviation lower (~200 points).

[Anonymous]

As a URM I’m pretty sure that score is getting her in anywhere.

[Anonymous]

She has gotten $21 on her GoFundMe. That’s about right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

How do they investigate? It seems like it would be impossible to prove cheating. Did they have your child do a retake?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

How do they investigate? It seems like it would be impossible to prove cheating. Did they have your child do a retake?

There are a lot of questions, so it's easy to see patterns. if her answer sheet wasn't similar to anyone else's sheet it would be hard to imagine she was cheating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did I understand the article correctly that the higher score was 1230?

That is still a really low SAT score, and would have more than a few incorrect answers. Is it possible that one section matched exactly the kid on one side of her, and the other section matched the kid on the other side?

1230 is 77th percentile nationally. Get out of your bubble!

But 1230 is still not scholarship level and in the article she is talking about scholarships.

She has a lot more to go if she wants scholarships.

1230 is still about 100 points lower than the acceptance average for U of Florida. It is not scholarship range. It is a hold my breath and hope my grades are good enough range.

In the video, they said she's interested in attending Florida State. A quick look suggests this school is not as selective, and the 1230 would put her within range for acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surely there’s a better way to handle this than to immediately ask people to give $100K.

If you actually didn't cheat, then yeah of course. Just take the exam again

I disagree. Preparing for these exams is arduous and a major time suck from other commitments. It is also stressful, and would be more so if you had to take it again to prove your innocence.

I have no idea if this person cheated, but if she did not, I can certainly understand why she isn't simply offering to take it again.

But once you’ve studied and prepared you should have command of the information and be able to take the test again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid’s score went up by 350 points (from a 1080 to a 1430) and they held the score and investigated her for cheating. But they didn’t find any evidence and released the score. They must have found something on this student.

This is my thought, too. My kid’s score was flagged after a very high jump, but was released after an investigation.

That’s ridiculous. What right do they have to do that?

My kids’ SSAT scores went up from a 50 percentile to a 93 percentile on one part of the test and there was no ‘investigation’ and I would have been really mad if there had been. Do they not suitably proctor the tests with all of the money that they receive from us??? Instead they’re all just buying their Betsy Devos sized McMansions and going on cruises on their yachts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surely there’s a better way to handle this than to immediately ask people to give $100K.

If you actually didn't cheat, then yeah of course. Just take the exam again

I disagree. Preparing for these exams is arduous and a major time suck from other commitments. It is also stressful, and would be more so if you had to take it again to prove your innocence.

I have no idea if this person cheated, but if she did not, I can certainly understand why she isn't simply offering to take it again.

But once you’ve studied and prepared you should have command of the information and be able to take the test again.

I dunno. Under this level of stress and pressure (being accused of cheating by the very makers of the test you're taking), one might choke when taking it again.