DH having an attitude after strip club

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok, be honest.
If a couple goes to a strip club with other couples, on a drunken night out, doesn’t the wife get to dictate the terms? I mean, there are hot women girating just feet from us. We had a great couples lap dance, which was awkward at first but then fun, and I felt like that was enough. He wanted more lap dances and I refused. I just felt like I had my fun, time to go.
And I’m annoyed that he wasn’t satisfied with that and is saying I was so lame for not do

OP, I'm a married, DCUMC guy, and I'm right with you. If a wife is cool enough to agree to go to a strip club with her DH, and agree to participate and not just watch, she absolutely gets to dictate the terms. They get to do what she allows, and leave when she is ready.

I'm late 30's, and go to strip clubs probably ever 3 years, and exclusively for bachelor parties. They are expensive (we have HHI of $350k+, and I still hate burning $300 at a strip club), and I'm completely aware of how artificial / commercial the environment is. I'm also pretty picky, so generally only find 1/5 strippers physically attractive. Lastly, I feel like pretty much every time I go I have to be the responsible one that keeps any of our group from getting thrown out / arrested / beat up for poor behavior. I can't imagine what a pain in the @$$ it must be to work at a strip club and have to deal with drunk customers being obnoxious every single night.

All that said, I have had some enjoyable nights, and a high end club with attractive women working the right night can be a fun experience. My wife (along with friends' wives) have been cool enough to go a few times, and we have pretty much operated by the above rules (the wives dictate the terms). The few times I've watched a guy get in an argument with his wife at the club about something, I always thought the DH was a moron for pushing back, and felt sorry for the wife. That said, people do stupid things when they are drunk, and usually the guy owns up to his poor behavior in the morning.

My DW learned pretty quickly that she's not a fan of watching naked women grind on me, nor is she attracted to women, so is not a fan of lap dances in general. We have learned that as a couple, we much prefer a Miami or Vegas night club. There are often more attractive women as go-go dancers, often topless. Probably just as expensive ($20 for a corona?), but usually the night clubs are considerably nicer than the strip clubs, the crowd is better and more attractive, and it's a more egalitarian environment that is sexy for both the man and the woman. We really like both Tao in Vegas and Liv in Miami.

In your story, you agreed as a couple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. [b]You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs[/b].

You should be embarrassed, op. I'm embarrassed for you. [/quote]

Me too, and the bolded part exactly. [/quote]

Can you share what they think ? I went there once when I turned 21 ( female ) just out of curiosity but it seems like I was offered the job by security guys at the door . My friends were laughing their asses off. I satisfied my curiosity and no lap dances for me .

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. [b]You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs[/b].

You should be embarrassed, op. I'm embarrassed for you. [/quote]

Me too, and the bolded part exactly. [/quote]

Can you share what they think ? I went there once when I turned 21 ( female ) just out of curiosity but it seems like I was offered the job by security guys at the door . My friends were laughing their asses off. I satisfied my curiosity and no lap dances for me .[/quote]


Oh never mind went though pages got my answer,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Cool slut-shaming, bro

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us.

Let me know if you ever have an opening in a beach house share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Cool slut-shaming, bro

(shrug) If you have no problem with dancing naked for money, and find such people worthy of respect, then I encourage you to pursue that for yourself (if you are female), your daughter, or your wife (if you are male). You do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

Uh huh. Sure they aren't stupid sluts. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

They are messed up in the head. They were abused as children, and seek out abusive relationships as adults. They associate with scum. They sleep with scum. Many of them are addicts. The fantasy that they went on to Ivy League educations, white collar jobs, and stable marriages in the suburbs is just that, an inane fantasy.

Stop trying to normalize a foul industry that exploits women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

Another former Camelot girl here. Just wanted to mention, Camelot has never offered private/lap dances, so the OP definitely wasn't there.

Also, I do not care about your opinion of the part-time job that provided me a six figure salary during my early 20s, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Ok, wow. Former dancer here. I now have a family and professional job, and you would never, ever know about my past employment. Women I worked with are now lawyers, real estate agents, computer programmers, librarians, social workers, nurses, etc. Honestly everyone reading this thread probably knows a former dancer and has no idea, so I would watch it with sentiments like this. Most women who work in strip clubs aren't "stupid sluts", in my experience it was usually college students and moms who wanted to work three days a week and spend the rest of the time with their kids. I for one am one of the only people I know that didn't have family pay for college and has no student loans. So.

On to what dancers think of customers. Honestly, female customers were the bane of my existence. Women either think they have a license to get handsy and that the rules don't apply to them because they're women, or get super jealous about their dad bod husband they came with. Newsflash: chris rock wasn't lying when he said there was no sex in the champagne room. Dancers just want to make money and are not trying to get with your loser husbands. Dancing is basically a hardcore sales job, so everything that is said and done is done with the goal of selling dances. Sob story? Probably not true, just a hustle. Smooth talking about how attractive and fun the customer is? Also a hustle.

As for OP, next time you go you should talk with your husband first about what your boundaries are.

...aaaaand there it is. These well-adjusted, undamaged, totally not trafficked individuals view men to be losers and women to be the bane of their existence.

You are intentionally misreading my post. People were curious about what dancers think of customers, I'm telling you my opinion from my lived experience. I did not enjoy most female customers because of the issues mentioned above: jealousy, thinking the rules don't apply to them, etc. And yes, usually the female customers that acted the most jealous and crazy were sad middle aged frumps with loser husbands. Did I say all men were losers? No. Some men are losers, specifically the men that came to strip clubs with these sad, sad ladies. I don't think finding this behavior unpleasant makes me damaged or trafficked (again LOL.) I will say, anecdotally, that I usually didn't see this kind of jealous, weird behavior from attractive, secure women.

I find it interesting how a few of you seem so hell bent on posting this tired stereotype about how dancers are damaged, trafficked, slutty, etc when there are at least two or maybe three former dancers in this thread saying, No, this is not the case.

Trust me, all of you have at least one former stripper in your extended circle and you have no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

Uh huh. Sure they aren't stupid sluts. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

They are messed up in the head. They were abused as children, and seek out abusive relationships as adults. They associate with scum. They sleep with scum. Many of them are addicts. The fantasy that they went on to Ivy League educations, white collar jobs, and stable marriages in the suburbs is just that, an inane fantasy.

Stop trying to normalize a foul industry that exploits women.

Man what did a stripper ever do to you? Sounds like this is pretty personal for you Pp. Maybe seek therapy?

[Anonymous]

Put a pole in your bedroom and then charge him for a lap dance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

Uh huh. Sure they aren't stupid sluts. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

They are messed up in the head. They were abused as children, and seek out abusive relationships as adults. They associate with scum. They sleep with scum. Many of them are addicts. The fantasy that they went on to Ivy League educations, white collar jobs, and stable marriages in the suburbs is just that, an inane fantasy.

Stop trying to normalize a foul industry that exploits women.

Man what did a stripper ever do to you? Sounds like this is pretty personal for you Pp. Maybe seek therapy?

I agree with PP that it is a foul industry that exploits women. I have nothing against the women. In fact I feel sorry for them that they were exploited and somehow felt the only way they could make money was to sell their bodies/remove their clothes for money. This industry objectifies women. It's bad for the feminists movement. Women and men shouldn't have to sell their bodies to make a decent living.

[Anonymous]

I have a hard (heh) time thinking every stripper is an Ivy Leaguer with no issues about men at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go to Camelot?

I knew girls who worked there in the late 90s. They were cool girls. Troubled, but cool. You should hear what strippers think of people who go to clubs.

LOL you should try to imagine how much I care about the good opinion of stupid sluts who dance naked for money.

Not stupid, and not sluts. One ended up with an advanced degree from an ivy. All married well and are financially set after white collar careers.

They were however very comfortable being naked. Super comfortable. I had to remind them to cover up when we were staying at a beach house together and my fiancée and his friends were with us. But these girls did not sleep around.

You people should know that your white collar husbands who work downtown throw around a lot of cash during the day at Camelot. It's pathetic.

Uh huh. Sure they aren't stupid sluts. If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

They are messed up in the head. They were abused as children, and seek out abusive relationships as adults. They associate with scum. They sleep with scum. Many of them are addicts. The fantasy that they went on to Ivy League educations, white collar jobs, and stable marriages in the suburbs is just that, an inane fantasy.

Stop trying to normalize a foul industry that exploits women.

Man what did a stripper ever do to you? Sounds like this is pretty personal for you Pp. Maybe seek therapy?

I agree with PP that it is a foul industry that exploits women. I have nothing against the women. In fact I feel sorry for them that they were exploited and somehow felt the only way they could make money was to sell their bodies/remove their clothes for money. This industry objectifies women. It's bad for the feminists movement. Women and men shouldn't have to sell their bodies to make a decent living.

Real question: do you know of any other job that a young woman without a degree can do part time that pays a living wage and also offers flexible scheduling so she can pursue an education or family obligations? I'll wait. The whole world objectifies women. Stripping is a way to obtain personal benefit from the way women are objectified by all industries anyway.

How do you feel about college aged women who go to bars and get wasted, let men grind on them, and dance on top of the bar, all for free, and then probably go home with someone and have sex?

Please believe that there is no reason for you to feel sorry for me. When I think about not having student loans, and the fact that I was able to afford live in a nice, safe area when I was in college, and having continuous health insurance throughout my early 20s with no family support....well...exploited is certainly not the word I would use for myself.