Hillary Clinton: Bill's affair with Monica wasn't an abuse of power because 'she was an adult'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree with pp about Hillary’s choices and I think it is a key point. I was in my late 20’s/early 30’s during the Clinton presidency and was waiting for the big moment after he stepped down when Hillary would kick him to the curb and be the shining image of a strong, capable woman who didn’t need a man (let alone one who so dispicably and publicly spit on the marriage and union) to be successful...and kept waiting...and waiting...

I am greatly disappointed by Hillary’s choice at that time. It demonstrated to other women that in fact she didn’t feel capable of succeeding with out a man and even worse, you may have to put up with humiliating treatment from men to get ahead. Or, make a pact that includes personal humiliation. No thank you.

I think she could have succeeded as a single woman rather than live in a humiliating marriage. She didn’t make that choice though. That she is somehow thought of as a leader of women is mind-boggling. Maybe because I was old enough to remember that time...

Both Hillary and Monica made choices that ultimately led them to powerless, humiliating circumstances.

The only person in this situation who has gotten everything he wanted and continues to flourish in a continual glass-raised-wink-woo-hoo party is Bill Clinton.

+1

My experiences as well. I kept waiting for HRC to show herself to be bigger than her First Lady role showed her to be...never happened. As late as 2006, I thought she'd win the Presidency in a cakewalk. Didn't happen.

People who don't like Trump deserve to do a meaningful post-mortem on Hillary and her political career. The truth is she's a candidate engineered in a lab and she was engineered by Bill's cynical friends and backers, almost entirely horrible members of the patriarchy who cynically sought to use her status as woman as cover their tracks.

To deal with the sexism charge, consider what other recent Dems have been about. Bill was a 'bubba' who worked too closely with Goldman-Sachs and the Waltons, etc. to sell out Bubbas. Note that 'Bubbas' have been sharply less likely to vote Dem since 1996....BHO was a black man who worked too closely with the small, white world of finance to disappoint black America, who were dis-proportionally damaged by the financial crisis (check median black HH wealth since 2007) by that small, white world of finance. In 2016, black voters in many areas felt abandoned and failed to turn out in needed #s... Hillary's job was to be the token woman who helped the same noxious elements that supported Bill and BHO, she disappointed her core constituency of women and we now have Kavanaugh on SCOTUS.

Time for Dems to change!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with pp about Hillary’s choices and I think it is a key point. I was in my late 20’s/early 30’s during the Clinton presidency and was waiting for the big moment after he stepped down when Hillary would kick him to the curb and be the shining image of a strong, capable woman who didn’t need a man (let alone one who so dispicably and publicly spit on the marriage and union) to be successful...and kept waiting...and waiting...

I am greatly disappointed by Hillary’s choice at that time. It demonstrated to other women that in fact she didn’t feel capable of succeeding with out a man and even worse, you may have to put up with humiliating treatment from men to get ahead. Or, make a pact that includes personal humiliation. No thank you.

I think she could have succeeded as a single woman rather than live in a humiliating marriage. She didn’t make that choice though. That she is somehow thought of as a leader of women is mind-boggling. Maybe because I was old enough to remember that time...

Both Hillary and Monica made choices that ultimately led them to powerless, humiliating circumstances.

The only person in this situation who has gotten everything he wanted and continues to flourish in a continual glass-raised-wink-woo-hoo party is Bill Clinton.

+1

My experiences as well. I kept waiting for HRC to show herself to be bigger than her First Lady role showed her to be...never happened. As late as 2006, I thought she'd win the Presidency in a cakewalk. Didn't happen.

People who don't like Trump deserve to do a meaningful post-mortem on Hillary and her political career. The truth is she's a candidate engineered in a lab and she was engineered by Bill's cynical friends and backers, almost entirely horrible members of the patriarchy who cynically sought to use her status as woman as cover their tracks.

To deal with the sexism charge, consider what other recent Dems have been about. Bill was a 'bubba' who worked too closely with Goldman-Sachs and the Waltons, etc. to sell out Bubbas. Note that 'Bubbas' have been sharply less likely to vote Dem since 1996....BHO was a black man who worked too closely with the small, white world of finance to disappoint black America, who were dis-proportionally damaged by the financial crisis (check median black HH wealth since 2007) by that small, white world of finance. In 2016, black voters in many areas felt abandoned and failed to turn out in needed #s... Hillary's job was to be the token woman who helped the same noxious elements that supported Bill and BHO, she disappointed her core constituency of women and we now have Kavanaugh on SCOTUS.

Time for Dems to change!

Even as a mostly Republican voter, I had high hopes the BO would instill positive change in the urban black communities. Instead he flamed racism and perpetuated the "it's not my fault" mind-set that suffocates our black communities.

[Anonymous]

Someone who wants Hillary to run again

http://theweek.com/articles/801606/how-hillary-clinton-could-win-2020

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone who wants Hillary to run again

http://theweek.com/articles/801606/how-hillary-clinton-could-win-2020

LOL!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with pp about Hillary’s choices and I think it is a key point. I was in my late 20’s/early 30’s during the Clinton presidency and was waiting for the big moment after he stepped down when Hillary would kick him to the curb and be the shining image of a strong, capable woman who didn’t need a man (let alone one who so dispicably and publicly spit on the marriage and union) to be successful...and kept waiting...and waiting...

I am greatly disappointed by Hillary’s choice at that time. It demonstrated to other women that in fact she didn’t feel capable of succeeding with out a man and even worse, you may have to put up with humiliating treatment from men to get ahead. Or, make a pact that includes personal humiliation. No thank you.

I think she could have succeeded as a single woman rather than live in a humiliating marriage. She didn’t make that choice though. That she is somehow thought of as a leader of women is mind-boggling. Maybe because I was old enough to remember that time...

Both Hillary and Monica made choices that ultimately led them to powerless, humiliating circumstances.

The only person in this situation who has gotten everything he wanted and continues to flourish in a continual glass-raised-wink-woo-hoo party is Bill Clinton.

+1

My experiences as well. I kept waiting for HRC to show herself to be bigger than her First Lady role showed her to be...never happened. As late as 2006, I thought she'd win the Presidency in a cakewalk. Didn't happen.

People who don't like Trump deserve to do a meaningful post-mortem on Hillary and her political career. The truth is she's a candidate engineered in a lab and she was engineered by Bill's cynical friends and backers, almost entirely horrible members of the patriarchy who cynically sought to use her status as woman as cover their tracks.

To deal with the sexism charge, consider what other recent Dems have been about. Bill was a 'bubba' who worked too closely with Goldman-Sachs and the Waltons, etc. to sell out Bubbas. Note that 'Bubbas' have been sharply less likely to vote Dem since 1996....BHO was a black man who worked too closely with the small, white world of finance to disappoint black America, who were dis-proportionally damaged by the financial crisis (check median black HH wealth since 2007) by that small, white world of finance. In 2016, black voters in many areas felt abandoned and failed to turn out in needed #s... Hillary's job was to be the token woman who helped the same noxious elements that supported Bill and BHO, she disappointed her core constituency of women and we now have Kavanaugh on SCOTUS.

Time for Dems to change!

Even as a mostly Republican voter, I had high hopes the BO would instill positive change in the urban black communities. Instead he flamed racism and perpetuated the "it's not my fault" mind-set that suffocates our black communities.

Pretty sure his fealty to his fellow Ivy Leaguers, mostly privileged white dudes, at the banks was massively more consequential. The financial crisis meant massive amounts of wealth was transferred from middle-class blacks to wealthy whites, including wealthy white Democrats. Most other stuff he did on 'race' was noise, including what you're highlighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with pp about Hillary’s choices and I think it is a key point. I was in my late 20’s/early 30’s during the Clinton presidency and was waiting for the big moment after he stepped down when Hillary would kick him to the curb and be the shining image of a strong, capable woman who didn’t need a man (let alone one who so dispicably and publicly spit on the marriage and union) to be successful...and kept waiting...and waiting...

I am greatly disappointed by Hillary’s choice at that time. It demonstrated to other women that in fact she didn’t feel capable of succeeding with out a man and even worse, you may have to put up with humiliating treatment from men to get ahead. Or, make a pact that includes personal humiliation. No thank you.

I think she could have succeeded as a single woman rather than live in a humiliating marriage. She didn’t make that choice though. That she is somehow thought of as a leader of women is mind-boggling. Maybe because I was old enough to remember that time...

Both Hillary and Monica made choices that ultimately led them to powerless, humiliating circumstances.

The only person in this situation who has gotten everything he wanted and continues to flourish in a continual glass-raised-wink-woo-hoo party is Bill Clinton.

+1

My experiences as well. I kept waiting for HRC to show herself to be bigger than her First Lady role showed her to be...never happened. As late as 2006, I thought she'd win the Presidency in a cakewalk. Didn't happen.

People who don't like Trump deserve to do a meaningful post-mortem on Hillary and her political career. The truth is she's a candidate engineered in a lab and she was engineered by Bill's cynical friends and backers, almost entirely horrible members of the patriarchy who cynically sought to use her status as woman as cover their tracks.

To deal with the sexism charge, consider what other recent Dems have been about. Bill was a 'bubba' who worked too closely with Goldman-Sachs and the Waltons, etc. to sell out Bubbas. Note that 'Bubbas' have been sharply less likely to vote Dem since 1996....BHO was a black man who worked too closely with the small, white world of finance to disappoint black America, who were dis-proportionally damaged by the financial crisis (check median black HH wealth since 2007) by that small, white world of finance. In 2016, black voters in many areas felt abandoned and failed to turn out in needed #s... Hillary's job was to be the token woman who helped the same noxious elements that supported Bill and BHO, she disappointed her core constituency of women and we now have Kavanaugh on SCOTUS.

Time for Dems to change!

Even as a mostly Republican voter, I had high hopes the BO would instill positive change in the urban black communities. Instead he flamed racism and perpetuated the "it's not my fault" mind-set that suffocates our black communities.

Pretty sure his fealty to his fellow Ivy Leaguers, mostly privileged white dudes, at the banks was massively more consequential. The financial crisis meant massive amounts of wealth was transferred from middle-class blacks to wealthy whites, including wealthy white Democrats. Most other stuff he did on 'race' was noise, including what you're highlighting.

Yet the kool aid served by him was so, so strong.

[Anonymous]

Why does Hillary hate other women so much?

[Anonymous]

Liberal woman here. If I was speculating to myself about what the least helpful thing HRC could possibly do for not only democrats in November but for women and the country generally, it would probably be her going on some type of national platform and talking about how what Bill Clinton did wasn't that bad.

Sigh.

Obviously she was a better choice than Trump, but moments like this illustrate how she lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sick and tired of people comparing Bill’s consensual affairs to Trump/Kabanaugh/etc sexual assault! NOT THE SAME THING!

Bill had affairs. We get it. We know. Hillary did not have nice things to say about those women. Why would she? They slept with her husband. I wouldn’t have nice things to say either. I just heard the Ninja Warrior guy on Megan Kelly say this is victim blaming. No. They weren’t victims. They were sleeping with a married man. We know that Bill has no moral high ground to stand on after all that. WE KNOW! If given the chance, I wouldn’t have voted for him after that. The dems use him sparingly on the campaign trail because of that. Ever wonder why this successful two term president who also happens to be a phenomenal speaker is rarely utilized on the campaign trail? Even his wife’s? Obviously, an affair is a marrital issue. They seem to have worked it out. It’s over. Republicans need to get over it.

Trump, Kavanaugh, Moore, and countless other Rs are accused of SEXUAL ASSAULT! Not the same as consensual affairs. Trump blatantly admiited to assaulting married women and Rs don’t care! Yet, they simultaneously clutch their pearls over Clintons affairs decades ago! Yes, Trump also had consensual affairs. Nobody is shocked. His own wife said she’s not concerned about it. It’s the cover up that will eventually bring him down. Just like it was Clinton’s cover up that caused the Rs to impeach him but they could care less about Trumps.

The hypocrisy is unbelievable, and the more you guys bring up Bill’s affairs, the more your hypocrisy stands out.

Dear Lord, woman. Do some research before spouting such crap.

https://www.businessinsider.com/these-are-the-sexual-assault-allegations-against-bill-clinton-2017-11

"Four women over the past few decades have publicly accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault or harassment. One woman accused Clinton of raping her."

I know. But this post, and most whataboutisms from the right are about Lewinski, since that’s the one that’s been proven and led to his impeachment. The assaults have not been proven, but I would not have a problem with the fbi investigating them further. I certainly wouldn’t want Bill on the scotus unless he was able to clear his name of those accusations though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberal woman here. If I was speculating to myself about what the least helpful thing HRC could possibly do for not only democrats in November but for women and the country generally, it would probably be her going on some type of national platform and talking about how what Bill Clinton did wasn't that bad.

Sigh.

Obviously she was a better choice than Trump, but moments like this illustrate how she lost.

SIgh.... I know what you mean.

We were so close but Hillary again, breaks the Ds momentum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Why does Hillary hate other women so much?

Because most of them either slept with her husband or wanted to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why does Hillary hate other women so much?

Because most of them either slept with her husband or wanted to?

Why doesn't she hate her husband, then?


oh, that's right, typical liberal double standard....



le sigh....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was.

If she was an adult and everything was OK, why did he lie that he didn't have anything to do with her?

And inserting a cigar into a woman is not an abuse of power?

I am not judging Bill, I like him, but come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why does Hillary hate other women so much?

Because most of them either slept with her husband or wanted to?

In addition to hating all the women Bill has sexually harassed, Hillary isn't supportive of women in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“She was an adult,” Clinton said, before quickly turning the conversation to President Trump.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-bill-hillary-clinton-monica-lewinsky-20181014-story.html

Yesterday I read an article about illegal unaccompanied minors that cross the border and are held in a camps until there future is decided.
One phrase caught my eye - '' facilities hold about 3800 CHILDREN age 13-17''. Children.
If 17 yo is a CHILD then I can argue that Kavanaugh was a child when the episode with Two Door Christine happened (or did not happen).

So, Hilly judges the child a lot more harshly than she judges her very adult x-president husband. How very liberal.
She is nuts.