How will Wootton or RM be affected by new high school in Crown Farm?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Where exactly are they proposing to build Crown HS?

Omega Drive and Fields Road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The new Crown HS will likely pull from King Farm (RM), Falls Grove (Wootton), and the Crown area itself (GB and QO)."

"It will have a strong principal chosen and will end up pulling the best teachers in the first round of hiring, which I think will establish a strong school."

More likely the opposite will happen. Because the Crown area is not defined so no one can plan ahead and any PTA for the ES and MS near their have no experience working together

the existing HSs RM, Wootton, GB and QO will all have more power in determining what goes on. The existing HSs will fight to keep the areas with the most engaged parents.

The existing HSs will snap up any good teachers. While the principal will likely have experience as a HS principal, they are unlikely to have experience opening a new HS so they will be learning as they go.

This does not mean the Crown HS will be a disaster but I would agree with the OP that I would rather be at RM or Wootton or even QO rather than Crown during its first 4 or 5 years.

This shows that you have no idea of how they hire for new schools or the effect on teacher transfer season. Opening a new school is an exciting opportunity for administrators and teachers, especially good ones currently in a school where there are other good teachers/admin with more seniority. The chosen principal (and HR) will hire the rest of the administration and leadership team (department heads) from a pool of eager applicants in January/February, then they will hire teachers from a pool of eager applicants in March, BEFORE the regular transfer season. Essentially, the school will cherry pick the best teachers from around the county. When transfer season opens, there will be many openings at other schools, but the new school will be mostly staffed.

[Anonymous]

The new Crown HS will probably be similar to RM and QO, a mix of low and high SES. They might even stick a magnet program in there to make it more attractive? Good for RE values for most ES clusters, but maybe not for the cluster that comes from Wootton (see Ritchie Park ~1985). I wonder how the Crown redistricting will leave Gaithersburg HS though. Crown HS probably takes the one of the higher SES parts of that cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending Laytonsville kids to Sherwood or Damacus would help Gaithersburg cluster too, but the board doesn’t want to hear that option.

+1000000. The bus ride is insane, and there are now higher income areas closer to GHS they could pull from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new Crown HS will probably be similar to RM and QO, a mix of low and high SES. They might even stick a magnet program in there to make it more attractive? Good for RE values for most ES clusters, but maybe not for the cluster that comes from Wootton (see Ritchie Park ~1985). I wonder how the Crown redistricting will leave Gaithersburg HS though. Crown HS probably takes the one of the higher SES parts of that cluster.

Gaithersburg HS includes East Montgomery Village and Laytonsville - higher SES areas that were there before King Farm and Crown were built and will be there after Crown HS is built.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Why are you so opposed to being districted to the new HS? No one is even sure of the exact boundaries yet, so I have no idea why you'd be against it.

2. The new HS is going to be in the Gaithersburg HS area, so the Dufief/Wootton/RM area will likely not be impacted. However, no one knows for sure yet.

Yes but Dufief is pretty close to Crown Farm. Rio Center is in Wootton district so there is a large chance that wootton will be impacted, though I'm not sure it will be Dufief who is impacted.

Huh? Dufief is not that close to Crown Farm. You must be totally new to
this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Why are you so opposed to being districted to the new HS? No one is even sure of the exact boundaries yet, so I have no idea why you'd be against it.

2. The new HS is going to be in the Gaithersburg HS area, so the Dufief/Wootton/RM area will likely not be impacted. However, no one knows for sure yet.

Yes but Dufief is pretty close to Crown Farm. Rio Center is in Wootton district so there is a large chance that wootton will be impacted, though I'm not sure it will be Dufief who is impacted.

Huh? Dufief is not that close to Crown Farm. You must be totally new to
this area.

First post on this subject but Dufief is close. You realize that up until recently there was houses on the Howard County line that went to Gaithersburg HS. The distance from the furthest house is only about 3.5 miles to the proposed Crown location (~8 min drive). You realize that the Unity/Sunshine area had a 14-15 mile, 30+ min (through backroads) to Gaithersburg and there are still kids from Laytonsville that have 12+ mile commutes to GHS. Personally, I do think that Dufief will be zoned to Crown but its really a guessing game since the current boundaries are so ridiculous.

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Laytonsville kids going to GHS get on their bus with stops starting at 6:34am. If you think Dufief isn't close compared to the insane commutes demanded of Laytonsville/East Village area kids, you're out of touch.

[Anonymous]

*6:24. Fat fingers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Why are you so opposed to being districted to the new HS? No one is even sure of the exact boundaries yet, so I have no idea why you'd be against it.

2. The new HS is going to be in the Gaithersburg HS area, so the Dufief/Wootton/RM area will likely not be impacted. However, no one knows for sure yet.

Yes but Dufief is pretty close to Crown Farm. Rio Center is in Wootton district so there is a large chance that wootton will be impacted, though I'm not sure it will be Dufief who is impacted.

Huh? Dufief is not that close to Crown Farm. You must be totally new to
this area.

First post on this subject but Dufief is close. You realize that up until recently there was houses on the Howard County line that went to Gaithersburg HS. The distance from the furthest house is only about 3.5 miles to the proposed Crown location (~8 min drive). You realize that the Unity/Sunshine area had a 14-15 mile, 30+ min (through backroads) to Gaithersburg and there are still kids from Laytonsville that have 12+ mile commutes to GHS. Personally, I do think that Dufief will be zoned to Crown but its really a guessing game since the current boundaries are so ridiculous.

Defief will not be rezoned. People bought into that area specifically because it feeds into a W school. These people are also known as “voters” and will very eagerly raise hell in the ballot box over this sort of thing. Furthermore this discussion may be different in five years. What about the thousands of jobs coming to the Belward farm development? What if Amazon HQ2 lands at White Flint? The whole area may be different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Defief will not be rezoned. People bought into that area specifically because it feeds into a W school. These people are also known as “voters” and will very eagerly raise hell in the ballot box over this sort of thing. Furthermore this discussion may be different in five years. What about the thousands of jobs coming to the Belward farm development? What if Amazon HQ2 lands at White Flint? The whole area may be different.

There's no building at Belward Farm until the Corridor Cities Transitway is funded. How is that going?

Also, people zoned for Dufief are not the only people who are voters.

[Anonymous]

These are the elementaries that border the Crown farm property and surrounding area: Rosemont ES(Gburg), Fallsmead(Wootton), Fields Road(QO), Stone Mill(Wootton), and Ritchie Park(RM).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My larger question is why OP has decided he/she doesn't want to be districted to the new school, when no one knows what the district for the school will even be.

Are you an idiot? Home prices. Who wants to gamble if you don’t Gabe to?

When they moved Ritchie Park out of Wootton to RM, home prices dropped between $75-100K per home.

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Anonymous wrote:These are the elementaries that border the Crown farm property and surrounding area: Rosemont ES(Gburg), Fallsmead(Wootton), Fields Road(QO), Stone Mill(Wootton), and Ritchie Park(RM).

Why would you add RP? There are other ESs in the cluster that are closer - Beall and CG.

As for Wootton cluster, Lakewood ES is much closer to Crown than Fallsmead. I don't think you are very familiar with the surrounding area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the elementaries that border the Crown farm property and surrounding area: Rosemont ES(Gburg), Fallsmead(Wootton), Fields Road(QO), Stone Mill(Wootton), and Ritchie Park(RM).

Why would you add RP? There are other ESs in the cluster that are closer - Beall and CG.

As for Wootton cluster, Lakewood ES is much closer to Crown than Fallsmead. I don't think you are very familiar with the surrounding area.

Parts of each of the school zones the PP mentioned are within a few blocks of the Crown HS site. (Not necessarily the school buildings themselves.)