How will Wootton or RM be affected by new high school in Crown Farm?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Gaithersburg HS just rebuilt?

Yes, it opened in 2013 with a capacity of 2,393 students.

And is already over crowded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Gaithersburg HS just rebuilt?

Yes, it opened in 2013 with a capacity of 2,393 students.

And is already over crowded?

It had 2,409 students this past year. Projected to be more than 200 students overcapacity within 6 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Gaithersburg HS just rebuilt?

Yes, it opened in 2013 with a capacity of 2,393 students.

And is already over crowded?

Yes. That is why MCPS is looking at a new high school at Crown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

excuse me?

[Anonymous]

So RM and Gaithersburg are already overcrowded. Wooten and QO too? And MCPS is saying 10 more years until they build Crown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So RM and Gaithersburg are already overcrowded. Wooten and QO too? And MCPS is saying 10 more years until they build Crown?

What MCPS is saying is "Expenditures are recommended in the six-year period to open a new high school on the Crown Farm site to address overutilization in the mid-county region. An FY 2019 appropriation for planning is recommended to begin the architectural design for this new school. Once the planning is complete, a recommendation will be included in the next full CIP regarding the phasing and completion date for the opening of this new high school."

[Anonymous]

No one knows but I do think Crown will pull from all 3- Gaithersburg, RM, and Wootton. And I bet that the BOE will make sure that the demographics will be as balanced as possible for all 3 High Schools- which means I can see them pulling some of the wealthy families from Wootton and QO. Remember, they don't necessarily care about the distance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

You don't know anything about the new high school at Crown (because nobody does) or about the changes to Wootton (because nobody does), but you know you don't want your kids to go to the new high school at Crown over Wootton. How about that.

fields road is actually a good school compared to brown station the actual bad school in the cluster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

excuse me?

Well I mean it is the worst school that feeds into Ridgeview MS... but PP never said it was a bad school, just that it isn't as good as the others in the cluster. But yes, Brown Station is WAY worse than Fields Road so I would't call Fields Road the bad school in QO. Washingtonian Woods is actually a nice neighborhood that goes to Fields Road, but other than that it isn't a very nice area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

I think it's dumb to treat each high school like the feeder neighborhoods are all identical and every student that goes to Gaithersburg HS is from a "bad" area. Gaithersburg HS (and QO, Wootton, & RM) are overcrowded partly (or mostly) because of all the new development happening in the Crown area. And in case you haven't actually been in these areas, those neighborhoods are filled with pretty pricey homes and the diverse people in them seems to be dressed fairly nicely and driving pretty nice cars. By DCUM logic, this should mean upper middle class = educated parents = "care" about education. The new Crown HS will likely pull from King Farm (RM), Falls Grove (Wootton), and the Crown area itself (GB and QO). If I were buying, I would actually think being in a brand new school would be a pretty good thing. It will have a strong principal chosen and will end up pulling the best teachers in the first round of hiring, which I think will establish a strong school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

excuse me?

Well I mean it is the worst school that feeds into Ridgeview MS... but PP never said it was a bad school, just that it isn't as good as the others in the cluster. But yes, Brown Station is WAY worse than Fields Road so I would't call Fields Road the bad school in QO. Washingtonian Woods is actually a nice neighborhood that goes to Fields Road, but other than that it isn't a very nice area.

Area really isn't that bad. I used to live there. Lots of different kinds of people. Maybe not wealthy, but plenty of young couples starting out, families, and empty nesters.

[Anonymous]

Sending Laytonsville kids to Sherwood or Damacus would help Gaithersburg cluster too, but the board doesn’t want to hear that option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are dumb. I wouldn’t want my kids to be in the new high school over wootton. The new high school is meant to be built to relieve gaithersburg if it’s overcrowding, meaning some portion of that will be going to the high school. Additionally, a part of QO will most likely go as well since it is overcrowded, and the area that is near crown is the bad part of QO(Fields Road ES) and the FARMS population of the school goes there. If that and part of Gaithersburg goes there that nice high school would be something like Northwest or Magruder. Either Dufief, Stone Mill, or another high achieving school will most likely end up there as well to balance FARMS rates with QO, Wootton, and RM.

I think it's dumb to treat each high school like the feeder neighborhoods are all identical and every student that goes to Gaithersburg HS is from a "bad" area. Gaithersburg HS (and QO, Wootton, & RM) are overcrowded partly (or mostly) because of all the new development happening in the Crown area. And in case you haven't actually been in these areas, those neighborhoods are filled with pretty pricey homes and the diverse people in them seems to be dressed fairly nicely and driving pretty nice cars. By DCUM logic, this should mean upper middle class = educated parents = "care" about education. The new Crown HS will likely pull from King Farm (RM), Falls Grove (Wootton), and the Crown area itself (GB and QO). If I were buying, I would actually think being in a brand new school would be a pretty good thing. It will have a strong principal chosen and will end up pulling the best teachers in the first round of hiring, which I think will establish a strong school.

Fallsgrove gies to RM not Wootten but it will likely move to Crown. Not sure about Kings Farm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending Laytonsville kids to Sherwood or Damacus would help Gaithersburg cluster too, but the board doesn’t want to hear that option.

Sending Laytonsville kids to Sherwood or Damascus would help the Gaithersburg cluster how?

What the Board did hear, and specifically considered, was sending Unity kids to Sherwood. What's more, that's what they decided to do. They reassigned the area from Gaithersburg (Laytonsville ES/Gaithersburg MS/Gaithersburg HS) to Sherwood (Greenwood ES/Rosa Parks MS/Sherwood HS): http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/planning/UnityBoundaryStudyADOPTED5.3.17.pdf

[Anonymous]

"The new Crown HS will likely pull from King Farm (RM), Falls Grove (Wootton), and the Crown area itself (GB and QO)."

"It will have a strong principal chosen and will end up pulling the best teachers in the first round of hiring, which I think will establish a strong school."

More likely the opposite will happen. Because the Crown area is not defined so no one can plan ahead and any PTA for the ES and MS near their have no experience working together

the existing HSs RM, Wootton, GB and QO will all have more power in determining what goes on. The existing HSs will fight to keep the areas with the most engaged parents.

The existing HSs will snap up any good teachers. While the principal will likely have experience as a HS principal, they are unlikely to have experience opening a new HS so they will be learning as they go.

This does not mean the Crown HS will be a disaster but I would agree with the OP that I would rather be at RM or Wootton or even QO rather than Crown during its first 4 or 5 years.