Realistically, which cross-admit battles does UChicago actually win?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid loves the collaborative atmosphere at UChicago. DC’s in a STEM field, so that may be part of it. But, in general, DC finds the vibe there much less competitive than HS and thinks some of the difference is Midwest vs NE Corridor.

FWIW, I think lots of UChicago kids are intense, but that’s different from competitive (though in an already competitive HS setting maybe that intensity reads as competitiveness).

Yawn.

SLAC kids generally are academically intense and driven. That's about it, unless their wanting to be doctors count as competitive. If Socrates were to come to UChicago, however, I feel he would be forced to drink hemlock just for questioning Chicago.

[Anonymous]

Most inane thread ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most inane thread ever.

What's inane is someone's already figured out an interactive software that answers the question:

http://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Princeton+University&with=University+of+Chicago

What's more inane is grown men and women debating college choices like teenagers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loses to: HYPMS
Slight loss: Penn, Columbia
Tie: Duke, Brown, Dartmouth, Caltech
Slight win: Top LACs, Cornell, Northwestern
Big win: Other top 20 universities (Emory, WashU, Hopkins, Rice, Vanderbilt, Georgetown)

My DC chose Rice over Chicago. Both are excellent schools that offer undergrads significant research opportunities, but with very different cultures outside the classroom, not to mention locations. Not surprising at all that some students would prefer one over the other. Different strokes, baby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Loses to: HYPMS
Slight loss: Penn, Columbia
Tie: Duke, Brown, Dartmouth, Caltech
Slight win: Top LACs, Cornell, Northwestern
Big win: Other top 20 universities (Emory, WashU, Hopkins, Rice, Vanderbilt, Georgetown)

My DC chose Rice over Chicago. Both are excellent schools that offer undergrads significant research opportunities, but with very different cultures outside the classroom, not to mention locations. Not surprising at all that some students would prefer one over the other. Different strokes, baby.

And survey says... Duke def. UChicago 61 to 39:


http://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=duke+&with=University+of+Chicago

[Anonymous]

I would bet that the midwestern location has much more to do with students selecting elsewhere than the school itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would bet that the midwestern location has much more to do with students selecting elsewhere than the school itself.

Chicago is a dynamic city; we're not talking about a rural location here.

Also, the school had a 72% yield last year, so kids aren't rejecting this place in droves.

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/university-chicago-class-2021-yield/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would bet that the midwestern location has much more to do with students selecting elsewhere than the school itself.

Chicago is a dynamic city; we're not talking about a rural location here.

Also, the school had a 72% yield last year, so kids aren't rejecting this place in droves.

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/university-chicago-class-2021-yield/

Not sure what this has to do with the fact that Duke def. UChicago soundly, 61 to 39.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would bet that the midwestern location has much more to do with students selecting elsewhere than the school itself.

Chicago is a dynamic city; we're not talking about a rural location here.

Also, the school had a 72% yield last year, so kids aren't rejecting this place in droves.

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/university-chicago-class-2021-yield/

Not sure what this has to do with the fact that Duke def. UChicago soundly, 61 to 39.

I was responding to the PP who said kids are rejecting the school because of its Midwestern location.

FWIW, Duke's yield is much lower (53% for the class of 2021).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would bet that the midwestern location has much more to do with students selecting elsewhere than the school itself.

Chicago is a dynamic city; we're not talking about a rural location here.

Also, the school had a 72% yield last year, so kids aren't rejecting this place in droves.

https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/college-admissions/university-chicago-class-2021-yield/

Not sure what this has to do with the fact that Duke def. UChicago soundly, 61 to 39.

I was responding to the PP who said kids are rejecting the school because of its Midwestern location.

FWIW, Duke's yield is much lower (53% for the class of 2021).

Yet,

Duke > Chicago.

And Duke isn't exactly #1 choice school seeing that it's yield isn't that great. Duke is probably at USC, BU, NW, WashU level or below.

[Anonymous]

Parchment includes data pre-UChicago improving it's undergraduate life.. It will be a while before the cross admit information catches up. Assuming of course that UChicago kids would have the inclination to contribute the info to Parchment. Nonetheless, UChicago maintains a reputation for academic rigor which for a kid that would actually apply to both, likely gives that kid pause about wanting to work that hard. Actual intellect aside, it takes a certain fearlessness to seek that challenge with trust that one is fully capable among that cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parchment includes data pre-UChicago improving it's undergraduate life.. It will be a while before the cross admit information catches up. Assuming of course that UChicago kids would have the inclination to contribute the info to Parchment. Nonetheless, UChicago maintains a reputation for academic rigor which for a kid that would actually apply to both, likely gives that kid pause about wanting to work that hard. Actual intellect aside, it takes a certain fearlessness to seek that challenge with trust that one is fully capable among that cohort.

"...improving." Euphemism for gaming the system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parchment includes data pre-UChicago improving it's undergraduate life.. It will be a while before the cross admit information catches up. Assuming of course that UChicago kids would have the inclination to contribute the info to Parchment. Nonetheless, UChicago maintains a reputation for academic rigor which for a kid that would actually apply to both, likely gives that kid pause about wanting to work that hard. Actual intellect aside, it takes a certain fearlessness to seek that challenge with trust that one is fully capable among that cohort.

"...improving." Euphemism for gaming the system.

Every single university games the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parchment includes data pre-UChicago improving it's undergraduate life.. It will be a while before the cross admit information catches up. Assuming of course that UChicago kids would have the inclination to contribute the info to Parchment. Nonetheless, UChicago maintains a reputation for academic rigor which for a kid that would actually apply to both, likely gives that kid pause about wanting to work that hard. Actual intellect aside, it takes a certain fearlessness to seek that challenge with trust that one is fully capable among that cohort.

"...improving." Euphemism for gaming the system.

Every single university games the system.

That's how we got to Donald Trump who lives in the world where every single people games the system.

[Anonymous]

No disrespect but...

Duke seems to be the dream of every super smart captain/president of everything handsome preppy rich boy & girl. Honestly, more intense passion for it than even HYPS. I don't see smart teens having anywhere near the same sort of intense allure towards Chicago. And Columbia being an Ivy and in NYC has to also put it over non-Ivy in a tier II major city (in the Midwest no less) UC.

That said, UC is only going to get better. I like their efforts to make the College less weird. Not that they should lose all of their identity but it largely seemed weird/abrasive for the sake of being "different" during my time on campus, which is just desperate and pretentious.