My house guest has been incredibly rude

[Anonymous]

Anyone who supports covering the face is crazy. WHY did you invite her to your house?

[Anonymous]

OP, chalk it up to lesson learned. Some people are amazing and others are not. It crosses borders. Enjoy your quiet nights this week!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, OP your complaints are a bit petty and I'm willing to bet your issue is she isn't as feminist as you though she was. You don't like that she's pro veil and thinks women shouldn't smoke so everything she does or says is colored with that and a little more annoying to you.

Seriously? Some of this guest’s behaviors are objectively rude. Keeping the toddler awake? Rude. Texting during dinner? Rude. Picking fights over the veil—because OP said her guest, not her, brought it up first? Rude.

You seem annoyed that OP didn’t fall over herself to praise the full face veil. Apparently you think that if a guest brings it up, a good hostess would lie and gush about how great thenfullnface veil is.

Seems like this is coloring your own willingness to ignore this guest’s blatant rudeness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't your husband say to her "We overheard you on the phone badmouthing my wife. It's clear you're not happy here. You should leave now. You're no longer welcome, so go pack your things now." Then just stand there and stare at her.

oh yeah! like you would do this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I became friends with an Egyptian lady 2 years ago. We are NOT super close but she has always been very nice/ friendly. I know her through my husband. I invited her to stay with us for a few days. We recently moved to the south and we're very close to the beach.

This was the worst idea ever. She has caused me to lose sleep, turned her nose up at almost all my meals. She has spent HOURS on the phone talking in Arabic. Last night we got into a pretty intense conversation about the face covering veil. She was upset because Americans do not accept this. She argued that it means America is not really a free country. I usually stay out of politics but this conversation really upset me. I am very against the face covering. She also mentioned how women should not be allowed to smoke but it's ok for men.

I suggested that we go to the beach the first day she arrived, but she let on that she doesn't like the beach because in Egypt the beaches are way nicer. I cooked a typical eggs, toast, potatoes breakfast and she says in Egypt they don't like eggs. We took her out to dinner and she didn't thank us. She had her alarm on very loud the first day and it woke up my toddler at 6 am Saturday morning. I actually had to go into her room and turn it off because it would not stop. I can not wait for this lady to leave my house. I finally snapped at her this afternoon because her phone conversation is so loud that it's preventing my toddler from napping. My husband understands a little Arabic and he could hear she bad mouthing me to her family. She did not know he was close by.

I am only venting here. I can not wait until she leaves tomorrow morning.

I am a foreigner and I can tell that she is from that layer of society that is hard to describe - this people have money and don't have manners. America and Western Europe is a lot more polished, even lower class, but once you get outside of the US and WU, this is what you get - very opinionated, pretty rude, a lot a gossip people. Interesting thing is that a lot of them are very genuine, take troubles of others close to heart and jump in to help - really help, not just with advice - when you are in trouble.
They are just psychologically and socially different))
Congratulations, you just experienced a real world outside of American bubble)))

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, OP your complaints are a bit petty and I'm willing to bet your issue is she isn't as feminist as you though she was. You don't like that she's pro veil and thinks women shouldn't smoke so everything she does or says is colored with that and a little more annoying to you.

Seriously? Some of this guest’s behaviors are objectively rude. Keeping the toddler awake? Rude. Texting during dinner? Rude. Picking fights over the veil—because OP said her guest, not her, brought it up first? Rude.

You seem annoyed that OP didn’t fall over herself to praise the full face veil. Apparently you think that if a guest brings it up, a good hostess would lie and gush about how great thenfullnface veil is.

Seems like this is coloring your own willingness to ignore this guest’s blatant rudeness.

If she's being too loud for the toddler she could address the noise volume.
OP should have changed the veil subject
I don't text during dinner but other adults are not my children so I don't tell them what they can and can not do.
When I treat someone to dier it's because it's something I want to do and enjoy not to get a thank you.
I'm not certain about the food and beach complaints OP seems to be taking them personally but they could have just been off handed comments that don't really mean much and weren't meant to offend.
Don't have guests if you don't have people skills to manage minor annoyances or over looking them.
Son't have guests if you want to control and manage their behvior as if they were your children.

As for the bold you you prove my point about why OP is upset and why you and others are taking up for her. I've seen people her complain about guests having sex and waking up the kids, leaving trash about etc. and the general concensus is let it go, this lady is the worst person in the world because she's the ungrateful foreigner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I became friends with an Egyptian lady 2 years ago. We are NOT super close but she has always been very nice/ friendly. I know her through my husband. I invited her to stay with us for a few days. We recently moved to the south and we're very close to the beach.

This was the worst idea ever. She has caused me to lose sleep, turned her nose up at almost all my meals. She has spent HOURS on the phone talking in Arabic. Last night we got into a pretty intense conversation about the face covering veil. She was upset because Americans do not accept this. She argued that it means America is not really a free country. I usually stay out of politics but this conversation really upset me. I am very against the face covering. She also mentioned how women should not be allowed to smoke but it's ok for men.

I suggested that we go to the beach the first day she arrived, but she let on that she doesn't like the beach because in Egypt the beaches are way nicer. I cooked a typical eggs, toast, potatoes breakfast and she says in Egypt they don't like eggs. We took her out to dinner and she didn't thank us. She had her alarm on very loud the first day and it woke up my toddler at 6 am Saturday morning. I actually had to go into her room and turn it off because it would not stop. I can not wait for this lady to leave my house. I finally snapped at her this afternoon because her phone conversation is so loud that it's preventing my toddler from napping. My husband understands a little Arabic and he could hear she bad mouthing me to her family. She did not know he was close by.

I am only venting here. I can not wait until she leaves tomorrow morning.

I am a foreigner and I can tell that she is from that layer of society that is hard to describe - this people have money and don't have manners. America and Western Europe is a lot more polished, even lower class, but once you get outside of the US and WU, this is what you get - very opinionated, pretty rude, a lot a gossip people. Interesting thing is that a lot of them are very genuine, take troubles of others close to heart and jump in to help - really help, not just with advice - when you are in trouble.
They are just psychologically and socially different))
Congratulations, you just experienced a real world outside of American bubble)))

As an immigrant (who grew up here) from a non Western culture, this is not true. There are plenty of unpolished low class folks who are loud and brash in US and some WU countries. (my spouse is from WU, and I've been there many times).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I became friends with an Egyptian lady 2 years ago. We are NOT super close but she has always been very nice/ friendly. I know her through my husband. I invited her to stay with us for a few days. We recently moved to the south and we're very close to the beach.

This was the worst idea ever. She has caused me to lose sleep, turned her nose up at almost all my meals. She has spent HOURS on the phone talking in Arabic. Last night we got into a pretty intense conversation about the face covering veil. She was upset because Americans do not accept this. She argued that it means America is not really a free country. I usually stay out of politics but this conversation really upset me. I am very against the face covering. She also mentioned how women should not be allowed to smoke but it's ok for men.

I suggested that we go to the beach the first day she arrived, but she let on that she doesn't like the beach because in Egypt the beaches are way nicer. I cooked a typical eggs, toast, potatoes breakfast and she says in Egypt they don't like eggs. We took her out to dinner and she didn't thank us. She had her alarm on very loud the first day and it woke up my toddler at 6 am Saturday morning. I actually had to go into her room and turn it off because it would not stop. I can not wait for this lady to leave my house. I finally snapped at her this afternoon because her phone conversation is so loud that it's preventing my toddler from napping. My husband understands a little Arabic and he could hear she bad mouthing me to her family. She did not know he was close by.

I am only venting here. I can not wait until she leaves tomorrow morning.

I am a foreigner and I can tell that she is from that layer of society that is hard to describe - this people have money and don't have manners. America and Western Europe is a lot more polished, even lower class, but once you get outside of the US and WU, this is what you get - very opinionated, pretty rude, a lot a gossip people. Interesting thing is that a lot of them are very genuine, take troubles of others close to heart and jump in to help - really help, not just with advice - when you are in trouble.
They are just psychologically and socially different))
Congratulations, you just experienced a real world outside of American bubble)))

As an immigrant (who grew up here) from a non Western culture, this is not true. There are plenty of unpolished low class folks who are loud and brash in US and some WU countries. (my spouse is from WU, and I've been there many times).

How can you be an immigrant if you grew up here? You sound really stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You should never turn your nose up to meals as a house guest. What planet do you live on?

She's texting on her phone during meals. None of this is normal.

Sorry, but what planet DO YOU LIVE on? First off, just because someone is a guest in your home does not mean YOU have a right to force food down their throat. Especially if they are from another country. Not everyone eats American food. Are you this ignorant? The world doesn't revolve around America.

Also, you think texting during meals isn't normal now? LOL, go to a restaurant or any place with groups of people. EVERYONE is on their phone. Not saying this is a good thing, just pointing out being on the phone is very much the norm these days. While I agree this is not a very grateful guest, you cannot push what you want onto her. If she doesn't want your food, let her buy or cook her own food. If she doesn't want to go to the beach, that's her choice. Now, I will say being too loud and not being aware of your family's schedule is on her. BUT, it's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to lay down the rules prior to permitting someone into your home.

When in a foreign country you are invited to a home of someone outside your culture, you temporarily accept their culture. OP is right, you don't turn your nose up to food served to you.
I was invited to a home in Mongolia and as a guest of honor was served a sheep head boiled whole - yes, sir, with ears, eyes, tong, lips, brain, teeth and the rest. And the smell! . And was expected to eat it, and I did - family got up with a brisk of dawn to slaughter poor animal that did not need to die for me and to cook gasilion of other dishes besides meat.
I thought I will pass out during my meal but fought it off.
Family was extremely gracious and nice, I really enjoyed been around them. They cleaned up everything after the slaughter because they heard that Europeans and city folks in general are sensitive about blood and everything - that along worth a world.
I would be grateful for a smoothie or would agree to starve if it was an option.
Don't like other cultures - stay in hotels.

[Anonymous]

I swear this has been a thread before, it’s driving me crazy but is this a reposting of a past thread with pretty much exact same fact pattern. I just read DCUM too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I became friends with an Egyptian lady 2 years ago. We are NOT super close but she has always been very nice/ friendly. I know her through my husband. I invited her to stay with us for a few days. We recently moved to the south and we're very close to the beach.

This was the worst idea ever. She has caused me to lose sleep, turned her nose up at almost all my meals. She has spent HOURS on the phone talking in Arabic. Last night we got into a pretty intense conversation about the face covering veil. She was upset because Americans do not accept this. She argued that it means America is not really a free country. I usually stay out of politics but this conversation really upset me. I am very against the face covering. She also mentioned how women should not be allowed to smoke but it's ok for men.

I suggested that we go to the beach the first day she arrived, but she let on that she doesn't like the beach because in Egypt the beaches are way nicer. I cooked a typical eggs, toast, potatoes breakfast and she says in Egypt they don't like eggs. We took her out to dinner and she didn't thank us. She had her alarm on very loud the first day and it woke up my toddler at 6 am Saturday morning. I actually had to go into her room and turn it off because it would not stop. I can not wait for this lady to leave my house. I finally snapped at her this afternoon because her phone conversation is so loud that it's preventing my toddler from napping. My husband understands a little Arabic and he could hear she bad mouthing me to her family. She did not know he was close by.

I am only venting here. I can not wait until she leaves tomorrow morning.

I am a foreigner and I can tell that she is from that layer of society that is hard to describe - this people have money and don't have manners. America and Western Europe is a lot more polished, even lower class, but once you get outside of the US and WU, this is what you get - very opinionated, pretty rude, a lot a gossip people. Interesting thing is that a lot of them are very genuine, take troubles of others close to heart and jump in to help - really help, not just with advice - when you are in trouble.
They are just psychologically and socially different))
Congratulations, you just experienced a real world outside of American bubble)))

As an immigrant (who grew up here) from a non Western culture, this is not true. There are plenty of unpolished low class folks who are loud and brash in US and some WU countries. (my spouse is from WU, and I've been there many times).

How can you be an immigrant if you grew up here? You sound really stupid.

***Face palm****

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't your husband say to her "We overheard you on the phone badmouthing my wife. It's clear you're not happy here. You should leave now. You're no longer welcome, so go pack your things now." Then just stand there and stare at her.

oh yeah! like you would do this?

I absolutely would.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like everyone involved is like 12 years old.

Get her out the door and get your doors re-keyed. And stop hosting anti-American almost-strangers from cultures that hate your food, house, life, kids, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I swear this has been a thread before, it’s driving me crazy but is this a reposting of a past thread with pretty much exact same fact pattern. I just read DCUM too much.

could be. this is just to idiotic. totally a troll re-post. it makes absolutely zero sense, even if OP is some bleeding heart naive liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I became friends with an Egyptian lady 2 years ago. We are NOT super close but she has always been very nice/ friendly. I know her through my husband. I invited her to stay with us for a few days. We recently moved to the south and we're very close to the beach.

This was the worst idea ever. She has caused me to lose sleep, turned her nose up at almost all my meals. She has spent HOURS on the phone talking in Arabic. Last night we got into a pretty intense conversation about the face covering veil. She was upset because Americans do not accept this. She argued that it means America is not really a free country. I usually stay out of politics but this conversation really upset me. I am very against the face covering. She also mentioned how women should not be allowed to smoke but it's ok for men.

I suggested that we go to the beach the first day she arrived, but she let on that she doesn't like the beach because in Egypt the beaches are way nicer. I cooked a typical eggs, toast, potatoes breakfast and she says in Egypt they don't like eggs. We took her out to dinner and she didn't thank us. She had her alarm on very loud the first day and it woke up my toddler at 6 am Saturday morning. I actually had to go into her room and turn it off because it would not stop. I can not wait for this lady to leave my house. I finally snapped at her this afternoon because her phone conversation is so loud that it's preventing my toddler from napping. My husband understands a little Arabic and he could hear she bad mouthing me to her family. She did not know he was close by.

I am only venting here. I can not wait until she leaves tomorrow morning.

I am a foreigner and I can tell that she is from that layer of society that is hard to describe - this people have money and don't have manners. America and Western Europe is a lot more polished, even lower class, but once you get outside of the US and WU, this is what you get - very opinionated, pretty rude, a lot a gossip people. Interesting thing is that a lot of them are very genuine, take troubles of others close to heart and jump in to help - really help, not just with advice - when you are in trouble.
They are just psychologically and socially different))
Congratulations, you just experienced a real world outside of American bubble)))

As an immigrant (who grew up here) from a non Western culture, this is not true. There are plenty of unpolished low class folks who are loud and brash in US and some WU countries. (my spouse is from WU, and I've been there many times).

How can you be an immigrant if you grew up here? You sound really stupid.

***Face palm****

OMG.