Great article on the direction UVA is heading......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"freshman, sophomore, junior & senior" was not in collective use at the time Jefferson started UVA.

UVA really needs to get an identity outside of Jefferson, it’s not as glamorous as you think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"freshman, sophomore, junior & senior" was not in collective use at the time Jefferson started UVA.

UVA really needs to get an identity outside of Jefferson, it’s not as glamorous as you think.

But he wrote "I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

hehe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"freshman, sophomore, junior & senior" was not in collective use at the time Jefferson started UVA.

UVA really needs to get an identity outside of Jefferson, it’s not as glamorous as you think.

Why would you say that? And I like first year, second, etc. That's also why graduation is called "Commencement" . . . because it is the beginning of your life out of college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"freshman, sophomore, junior & senior" was not in collective use at the time Jefferson started UVA.

UVA really needs to get an identity outside of Jefferson, it’s not as glamorous as you think.

But he wrote "I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

hehe.

I wish I could write like that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help that UVA (and that article) constantly refer to the school as THE University. It’s all over that article. They already have a huge chip on their shoulder.

because it is written by a student for the student newspaper. That's all you are getting: one student's viewpoint in the student newspaper, so OF COURSE it is THE University because it's in the Cavalier Daily.

Wrong. That’s how students and alum from UVA refer to the school. It’s not UVA, or Virginia, or school, or college, it’s “the University”. And it’s not campus, it’s “the grounds”. They don’t have freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors, it’s first years, second years, third years, fourth years. sounds like you don’t know much about the school if you don’t even know one of the basic reasons people find UVA to be pretentious and fratty.

I find it highly comical that a school newspaper article is making the argument that UVA is becoming more like a private school but uses that vocabulary, which was already doing that job.

It's not the opinion of the student newspaper. That would be issued by the editorial board. What you see here is called an "opinion editorial" or "op-Ed". Students on the Cavalier Daily have to submit pieces for publication because it's a Daily Paper and they need pieces to publish. DD worked on the paper last year and says the Op-Eds are trash and that the editors don't do their jobs, as you see here (editors are supposed to edit submitted opinion pieces - they don't). So what you are reading is what some ignorant 19 year old drummed up fast so he could submit something for publication. If he had even bothered to check he would know about AccessUVA, the increase in the amount of funding for low-income and rural students, as well as the fact that UVA's $8 billion endowment is a shadow compared to Yale's at 27B and Harvard's at 33B.

[Anonymous]

UVA is the only public school that is a QuestBridge partner (an organization with an alternative admissions process for low-income students, with 40 partner schools ranking among the best schools in the country). That's one thing the article conveniently forgets to mention.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what their long term goals are, but my senior knows of several students who got into UVA and we’re denied at Vt. I feel like UVA has gotten too big for its britches and it’s about to be knocked down a notch

VT is extremely competitive if applying for engineering. Lots of high stats kids get rejected at VT for engineering.

Lots of high stats kids got rejected or waitlisted for all departments this year...kids with GPAs over 4.0 who applied to business, sciences, poly sci, etc.

I know kids that accepted to UVA, but not to VT too. VT has had a record number of application in recent years. UVA's image has cursed by racism, murders, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure what their long term goals are, but my senior knows of several students who got into UVA and we’re denied at Vt. I feel like UVA has gotten too big for its britches and it’s about to be knocked down a notch

VT is extremely competitive if applying for engineering. Lots of high stats kids get rejected at VT for engineering.

Lots of high stats kids got rejected or waitlisted for all departments this year...kids with GPAs over 4.0 who applied to business, sciences, poly sci, etc.

I know kids that accepted to UVA, but not to VT too. VT has had a record number of application in recent years. UVA's image has cursed by racism, murders, etc.

That's BS. UVA received record numbers of applications this year (26% over the last two years) and a record number of URM/black applicants.

[Anonymous]

You have to wonder where all of the money goes when college class sizes can be 40-60 students. They should have majority instate if they get state funds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to wonder where all of the money goes when college class sizes can be 40-60 students. They should have majority instate if they get state funds.

It is majority in-state. I think the figure is around 68% in-state. Also, UVA receives very little from the VA Assembly. The ASsembly spun it off several years ago and UVA parlayed its endowment into the $8B range - but that is still a fraction of the endowments of Princeton, Yale and Harvard. UVA wants to do a lot more building, as well. Some of the dorms date back to the GI bill period - cheap brick house with tiny rooms, crude bathrooms, no A/C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is the only public school that is a QuestBridge partner (an organization with an alternative admissions process for low-income students, with 40 partner schools ranking among the best schools in the country). That's one thing the article conveniently forgets to mention.

That's true. Also AccessUVA. The low-income, rural numbers are way up this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia needs some auto admit schools.
3.5 unweighted and 1250+ on the SAT and you’re in. Any spots leftover are available for out of state applications.

+1

There isn't room enough for that standard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help that UVA (and that article) constantly refer to the school as THE University. It’s all over that article. They already have a huge chip on their shoulder.

because it is written by a student for the student newspaper. That's all you are getting: one student's viewpoint in the student newspaper, so OF COURSE it is THE University because it's in the Cavalier Daily.

Wrong. That’s how students and alum from UVA refer to the school. It’s not UVA, or Virginia, or school, or college, it’s “the University”. And it’s not campus, it’s “the grounds”. They don’t have freshmen, sophomores, juniors or seniors, it’s first years, second years, third years, fourth years. sounds like you don’t know much about the school if you don’t even know one of the basic reasons people find UVA to be pretentious and fratty.

I find it highly comical that a school newspaper article is making the argument that UVA is becoming more like a private school but uses that vocabulary, which was already doing that job.

a) It's one student on the Cavalier Daily writing his own opinion = stupid
b) I am a parent
c) If the article appeared in the Harvard Crimson, it would refer to the University, not THE HARVARD UNIVERSITY throughout the article
d) I know it's "the grounds" - what's weird about that?
e) I know it's called "first year", etc. - what's weird about that? That was Jefferson's intent to make that point that all of life is an educational experience, hence first, second, third year and on
f) UVA has many programs - which the author doesn't mention - to help poor students attend
g) DD was on the Daily Cavalier - you have to produce articles - on anything. This is one of them.
h) We're now two years in as a family and I have never met a preppy douchebag. Preppie douchebags go to N.E. schools.
i) UVA expanded it's program for low and middle class income families starting in 2017. It's called Cornerstone Grant. The largest number of low-income students ever to be admitted was for 2017 (regular decisions aren't out yet for 2018). UVA also set a record for 2018 EA low income families.

Nope. Preppy douchbags are at all schools. If you don't like generalizations being thrown at UVA and are trying to argue the reasons why it shouldn't be done, then don't do it to other schools. It simply weakens your argument.

[Anonymous]

Why does this article keep using the phrase "the University"? Are they referring to UVA or colleges in general?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny, I've heard the bright kids this month debating on whether they want to go to UVA or VT, and the argument keeps coming up that UVA has too many preppy douchelords.

And poor old W&M is completely out of fashion with the kids--too stodgy and grindy, and lacking in tech shinies.

UVA has always had that reputation.