Great article on the direction UVA is heading......

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Anonymous wrote:^I think UVA has aspirations to be considered the top destination for ivy and ivy-equivalent rejects. This aspiration and being a state school do not go hand in hand.



Why not? UVA tracks with UCLA and Berkeley now. Depending on the ratings it is second or third in the state school line-up.


UVa wants to compete with the privates that have traditionally been the next-best choice by ivy rejects (i.e. Vandy, Rice, Emory, GU, WUSTL, ND etc).



Huh? bad list. UVA swept past those a number of years ago.


Lol...you’re funny. Outside of Virginia, UVA has a fairly mediocre brand.....nowhere near a UCLA or Michigan



You need to keep up. UVA no. 1 public university in America by Business Insider, ahead of Michigan, UCLA and Berkeley. http://www.businessinsider.com/best-public-colleges-in-the-united-states-2016-8#4-university-of-california-at-los-angeles-11


Who cares about business insider...no one thinks of UVA as the # 1 public. that is by far Berkeley, with a brand that uva could only dream to match. UCLA, UMich are also better regarded than UVA. Plus these are all publics, UVA is not on par with top 20 privates, get a grip please.



That hurt, didn't it? UVA ahead of Michigan, UCLA and Berkeley


by all means continue having delusions of grandeur. it is such a hallmark of UVA boosters.


+1 UVA accepts over 40% of in-state applicants who are primarily applying because it's a cheap alternative to private universities. Hardly prestigious but keep on striving, I guess.



27.8% of EA for class of 2022. Also, you can't compare UVA's statistics to a private because applicants to a state flagship are both self-selected (high school kids know what it takes and don't apply, like our DC knew there was no chance so applied to other VA schools) or are selected and guided to UVA by the public high school college counselros. If you don't have a 4.0+ weighted and ACT over 31 there's no point in applying. 94.5% of the EA students are in the top 10% of their class. The SCHEV reports that of the entering class in fall of 2017, 25% of the class had a 4.44 or higher; the median 50% had a 4.19 and the bottom 25% had a 4.13 in high school. Top 25% of students had an ACT of 33 or better.
https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-early-action-decisions-spawning-social-media-tsunami. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp (insert VA school name and hit "update").


I would think that the low tuition would trigger more in-state kids to apply, qualified or not. And why are you cherry picking EA applicant stats? UVA boosters are so sad.


It’s actually the jealous Maryland posters who are so pathetic. Is this really what a generic campus in a drab suburb with a turtle for a mascot does to one’s psyche?


As opposed to a creepy character with a moustache? I don’t even want to know.
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Anonymous wrote:^I think UVA has aspirations to be considered the top destination for ivy and ivy-equivalent rejects. This aspiration and being a state school do not go hand in hand.



Why not? UVA tracks with UCLA and Berkeley now. Depending on the ratings it is second or third in the state school line-up.


UVa wants to compete with the privates that have traditionally been the next-best choice by ivy rejects (i.e. Vandy, Rice, Emory, GU, WUSTL, ND etc).



Huh? bad list. UVA swept past those a number of years ago.


Lol...you’re funny. Outside of Virginia, UVA has a fairly mediocre brand.....nowhere near a UCLA or Michigan



You need to keep up. UVA no. 1 public university in America by Business Insider, ahead of Michigan, UCLA and Berkeley. http://www.businessinsider.com/best-public-colleges-in-the-united-states-2016-8#4-university-of-california-at-los-angeles-11


Who cares about business insider...no one thinks of UVA as the # 1 public. that is by far Berkeley, with a brand that uva could only dream to match. UCLA, UMich are also better regarded than UVA. Plus these are all publics, UVA is not on par with top 20 privates, get a grip please.



That hurt, didn't it? UVA ahead of Michigan, UCLA and Berkeley


by all means continue having delusions of grandeur. it is such a hallmark of UVA boosters.


+1 UVA accepts over 40% of in-state applicants who are primarily applying because it's a cheap alternative to private universities. Hardly prestigious but keep on striving, I guess.



27.8% of EA for class of 2022. Also, you can't compare UVA's statistics to a private because applicants to a state flagship are both self-selected (high school kids know what it takes and don't apply, like our DC knew there was no chance so applied to other VA schools) or are selected and guided to UVA by the public high school college counselros. If you don't have a 4.0+ weighted and ACT over 31 there's no point in applying. 94.5% of the EA students are in the top 10% of their class. The SCHEV reports that of the entering class in fall of 2017, 25% of the class had a 4.44 or higher; the median 50% had a 4.19 and the bottom 25% had a 4.13 in high school. Top 25% of students had an ACT of 33 or better.
https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-early-action-decisions-spawning-social-media-tsunami. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp (insert VA school name and hit "update").


Enjoy George Mason!
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^ I have a child at George Mason. DC has had a great four years. It was the right fit. Incidentally, our public high school counselor did try to guide her away from colleges where her application didn't have a chance. The counselor went right to Naviance for our particular high school and demonstrated which of the Virginia schools DC had a shot at. UVA was never even on the table. I don't see the point in wasting applications if your statistics don't correlate with the incoming class.
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Anonymous wrote:There's one poster here who is convinced counselors control where students apply. They'll definitely tell you if they think your list is too ambitious for your profile and will try to get you to look at some "match" schools, but they can't stop anyone from applying to a school and they don't have Tim etc write different letters for each school.



I'm a college counselor. We do have significant sway in the process. We supply a recommendation of our own to UVA. This is our job: to set each child up with reaches and dream schools (but within reason), "most likely's" and safeties. It serves no purpose for students who don't have the grades, record or scores to apply to a college that is out of reach. If a parent insists on it, then we do it, but I'm careful to show the Naviance chart and document everything so I don't have to deal with the parent's disappointment when the inevitable rejection happens. It's also cruel to the child if we aren't frank in the counseling about chances of getting in. A parent should not be setting their child up for failure. Counselors can signal a positive or a negative for a child in the counselor's recommendation. If there are 60 other super 4.20+++ kids in the class of 500 and one 3.5 GPA applications with weak stats, I am not going to be effusive in the recommendation. Here's some info on the recommendation that we counselors supply:

"The Counselor Recommendation

Your counselor will send us your high school profile, transcript, a school form with some basic information on it, and their recommendation. The recommendation can take any form. Many counselors write a letter, some bullet out a few statements about their student, and some schools have a form that that prompts their counselors to cover different topics. It all works for us. A school in one of my territories has a large senior class and 100% of the class typically goes on to a two or four year college. As you can imagine, those counselors are BUSY. When they created a form with areas to address different topics (academics, extracurricular, character, outside issues that may have impacted the student), it was a great move for both "sides" of the desk.

What would happen if a counselor didn't know a student well? Those counselors will sometimes share what they have learned from the student's file or from conversations with the students' teachers. There is also a way for counselors to let us know if the constraints of their job prevent them from writing a recommendation. In those cases, the school form is sufficient." http://admission.virginia.edu/counselor-and-teacher-recommendation-requirements-uva-0
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So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


You sound deeply insecure. I'm not a UVA booster (pretty neutral in that dept.), but why the hate?
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


You sound deeply insecure. I'm not a UVA booster (pretty neutral in that dept.), but why the hate? [/quote

Lighten up, chief. I’m guessing you went to George Mason.
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TWO of the most cringe inducing losses in college basketball are by UVA. Chaminade and now this.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


You sound deeply insecure. I'm not a UVA booster (pretty neutral in that dept.), but why the hate?



+1. Let's try to keep College and University Discussion civil.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


You sound deeply insecure. I'm not a UVA booster (pretty neutral in that dept.), but why the hate?



+1. Let's try to keep College and University Discussion civil.


I sound deeply insecure? Because I reminded the thread about posters a few pages back who was bragging how the UVA basketball team was making The University a much more desirable place to go to school? That UVA would win it all? That’s your retort. Oh, ok. I don’t hate UVA. Where did I say that? I do think people should think before they speak and be responsible for their words, written or spoken. You sound super defensive. Relax, enjoy the weekend. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


+1 That's hilarious. I'm guessing we aren't going to hear from that delusional imbecile anytime soon.
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Anonymous wrote:There's one poster here who is convinced counselors control where students apply. They'll definitely tell you if they think your list is too ambitious for your profile and will try to get you to look at some "match" schools, but they can't stop anyone from applying to a school and they don't have Tim etc write different letters for each school.


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I wonder if it's always the same poster, insisting that counselors decide who can apply where. This is simply not the case, and never has been.


Counselors write the common app recommendation and fill out the CA school profile forms. They generally have a pretty decent relationship with the Uva territory rep. You have ZERO idea what they put in the common app, nor are you privy to conversations or notes they do or do not send to the Uva rep. They can and do put their finger on or off the scale.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


+1 That's hilarious. I'm guessing we aren't going to hear from that delusional imbecile anytime soon.


DP. UVA was never the type of school where a sports championship was going to make a big difference in the school's appeal or selectivity. It's a different story where schools like George Mason or UMBC are concerned.
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the UVA booster now who was bragging that UVA is such an in demand and great school because of their basketball team and how they will win the NCAA tournament and they just lost by 20 to UMBC, the first 1 seed to ever lose in the first round. LMFAO.


+1 That's hilarious. I'm guessing we aren't going to hear from that delusional imbecile anytime soon.


DP. UVA was never the type of school where a sports championship was going to make a big difference in the school's appeal or selectivity. It's a different story where schools like George Mason or UMBC are concerned.


I think you have missed the point. Most posters agree with you, and they’re pointing out the irony of one or two posters who in this thread a few pages/days ago were claiming UVA’s sports program will be boosting the school’s profile, makes it a better academic school, and will make it harder to get into for future applicants and that UVA would win the championship. And now look what happened. UVA made history by losing in first round as not just a number 1 seed but the 1 seed out of all the 4 number ones.
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