I’m counting calories to lose weight and I’m starving/hangry

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


Please stop with this Taubes guy. OP knows how she got heavy.... it is calories, heavy person can't eat the same number of calories even after losing weight as never heavy person can. OP, I watched a documentary Weight of the Nation by HBO recently. It is on Youtube, it is scary to watch, but it has legitimate studies done to support the findings presented. We all eat too much, way too much! We aren't even aware how much we are eating and how sedentary we are. Yes, of course it is about hormones as this pp is stating, but your hormones react to your weight gain and caloric intake. I bet you this pp was never overweight and has no clue and might spend 6 hours in the gym. Not everybody wants to gorge on meat all day long. But, definitely avoid sugar in any food and be aware it is hidden in most foods. Even Wegman's rotisserie chicken has sugar. It is insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ended up doing intermittent fasting to deal with the hunger. If I eat breakfast - even a protein rich breakfast, I am ravenous during the day. If I don't eat in the mornings, then I don't really get hungry until about 3:00. At that point I eat two hard boiled eggs and that holds me until I get home and get dinner (lots of veggies and protein).


I was just going to post this. I have failed miserably in the past at counting calories, however I'm on day 13 of IF 16:8 and it's been fairly easy. I'm shocked myself that I'm not shaky in the mornings. My cravings don't kick in until I break my fast.

Did you lose any weight? I do intermittent fasting too, but Christmas and visitors messed me up right after I lost over 7 lbs on a more restricted IF than 16:8 that I found insanely easy after first few days. I did more like 5:2.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ended up doing intermittent fasting to deal with the hunger. If I eat breakfast - even a protein rich breakfast, I am ravenous during the day. If I don't eat in the mornings, then I don't really get hungry until about 3:00. At that point I eat two hard boiled eggs and that holds me until I get home and get dinner (lots of veggies and protein).


I was just going to post this. I have failed miserably in the past at counting calories, however I'm on day 13 of IF 16:8 and it's been fairly easy. I'm shocked myself that I'm not shaky in the mornings. My cravings don't kick in until I break my fast.

Did you lose any weight? I do intermittent fasting too, but Christmas and visitors messed me up right after I lost over 7 lbs on a more restricted IF than 16:8 that I found insanely easy after first few days. I did more like 5:2.

I'm down about a pound after almost two weeks. I only have about 15 to lose so I'm expecting it to come off slowly. And I'm not restricting at all from 12-8; trying to make healthy choices but not counting calories.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


How do I do that, then? Lower my insulin?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ended up doing intermittent fasting to deal with the hunger. If I eat breakfast - even a protein rich breakfast, I am ravenous during the day. If I don't eat in the mornings, then I don't really get hungry until about 3:00. At that point I eat two hard boiled eggs and that holds me until I get home and get dinner (lots of veggies and protein).


I was just going to post this. I have failed miserably in the past at counting calories, however I'm on day 13 of IF 16:8 and it's been fairly easy. I'm shocked myself that I'm not shaky in the mornings. My cravings don't kick in until I break my fast.


What’s 16:8?
Anonymous
Thanks everyone. I mean that.

I started another thread asking for more info about fasting, if you could share.

It's a good idea for me, honestly. I'm not that hungry until about noon anyway. I'm too busy with young boys to sit down and eat!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Increase protein to fill you up.

Hydrate.

Can you list a normal range of foods and we dcum experts can help you decide if they are good choices?

Also, do you exercise? Even a quick walk around the block? Or lifting some arm weights while sitting and watching tv at the end of the day?


Breakfast: 1/4 cup cubed steamed sweet potato, 1/2 chicken apple sausage, 1/4 avocado

Lunch: salad (“super girl” green blend) topped with 1/2 chicken breast and tomatoes, with Primal Kitchen green goddess dressing

3pm snack: 1/2 apple with 1 tablespoon sunbutter

Dinner: bolognese sauce over zoodles



NP here. You could easily be packing in a ton of fruits and veggies during your day, for not very many calories. That's how I lost a ton of weight without being starved all the time. Drop things like the avocado and the sun butter, and replace those calories with a huge plateful of fresh produce. Also, a big bowl of low-calorie cereal can be pretty filling for breakfast.

Good luck, OP!
Anonymous
NP here. I recently dropped from 40 lbs to 130 lbs in 6 weeks. I have many health problems that prevents weight loss and I am also very sedentary. I have made the change to eating a lot of fresh vegetables in every meal and restrict carbs. I am cooking a lot and I eat till I feel full and content. The weight is melting off now. I have still not started exercise but I have become more active now. Hopefully when the weather improves I will start exercising too.

Making fresh foods every day and incorporating a lot of veggies in your food is not an easy task. It requires a lot of effort and planning before it becomes easy and natural.

What I have learned in that veggies should be the staple of your diet. Add protein and healthy fat in moderation and avoid carbs and sugar as much as you can. If you have to eat carbs go with grains such as sorghum, barley, quinoa, millet etc. Avoid wheat and wheat products.

I have found that I am actually very satiated if I eat my carbs in the morning during breakfast.




Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I started eating a whole foods, plant-based diet, based off of Dr. Greger/nutritionfacts.org. It consists of lots of whole grains, beans, lentils, veggies, greens and fruits, moderate amounts of nuts and seeds, limited or no oils or processed sugars, no meat, dairy, eggs. I eat a huge volume of food each day (currently very full from dinner and debating whether I can fit in my final serving of grains or if I am too full). I have lost 13 lbs since NY.


Where do you get your ideas for meals? Can you share what you eat? You’re basically a vegan...?


In his book, Dr. Greger gives a daily checklist of foods to eat:
1 serving cruciferous veggies
2 servings of leafy greens
2 servings of other veggies
3 servings of beans/legumes
3 servings of grains
3 servings of fruit
1 serving of berries
1 tbsp ground flax seed
1 serving of spices
1 serving of nuts

Yesterday for breakfast I ate some cut up butternut squash with chopped walnuts, cinnamon, ginger, flax seed and a drizzle of honey. (Veggie, nuts, spices, flax seed)

For lunch, I had my big meal of the day: quinoa, grilled zucchini, grilled onion and black beans tossed with pesto (which I make and freeze in batches by blending peas, basil, spinach, arugula, garlic and toasted pine nuts). (Greens, 3 servings of beans/legumes, 1 serving of grains, 2 servings of other veggies).

For dinner I had a kale salad topped with fruit dressed with a little vinegar (1 greeens, 3 fruit), and a side of roast cauliflower for my cruciferous veggie.

For dessert I had some oatmeal with strawberries mixed in for my 2 servings of grains and serving of berries.

It is a LOT of food. I am finding it works best when I make some things like the pesto in big batches that I can have ready to pull out so that cooking is fairly simple.

I do still use some of the ingredients he suggests eliminating (oil, honey/maple syrup, salt) but I am doing my best to reduce the amount or substitute something different.


Reading this gave me diarrhea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


How do I do that, then? Lower my insulin?


There are two ways to lower insulin...a low carb diet (and a low carb, high fat diet is best, with moderate protein) and/or fasting. Personally I started with fasting because I was too much of a carb addict to give up carbs at first. I just couldn't fathom it. But I still got much healthier just fasting...and gradually, because I could see how much better I felt, going lower carb and higher fat when I did eat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


Please stop with this Taubes guy. OP knows how she got heavy.... it is calories, heavy person can't eat the same number of calories even after losing weight as never heavy person can. OP, I watched a documentary Weight of the Nation by HBO recently. It is on Youtube, it is scary to watch, but it has legitimate studies done to support the findings presented. We all eat too much, way too much! We aren't even aware how much we are eating and how sedentary we are. Yes, of course it is about hormones as this pp is stating, but your hormones react to your weight gain and caloric intake. I bet you this pp was never overweight and has no clue and might spend 6 hours in the gym. Not everybody wants to gorge on meat all day long. But, definitely avoid sugar in any food and be aware it is hidden in most foods. Even Wegman's rotisserie chicken has sugar. It is insane.


Oh, right, I'm sure you know more than a journalist who has been studying nutrition science for decades since you watched an HBO special. (eye roll.)

Ironically, Taubes would agree with you on the dangerous ubiquity of sugar, even in chicken. But the problem with sugar is not the calories in it! It's how it spikes your blood glucose and spikes your insulin. Starch does it too. A calorie from grass fed butter is not just as fattening as a calorie from sugar.

I spent a decade restricting my calories and drinking Diet Coke all day and still got fatter. In my 20's, I ate 100-1200 calories most days, some less than that, and still got very fat. I worked out every weekday, too. I ate very low fat..a lot of rice, lean chicken, etc. a lot of plain pasta. Low calorie, low fat, sugar free. Got fat. And sicker..PCOS, lots of abdominal fat. It's *hormonal*. I wasn't eating too much...I was eating way too much carbohydrate and not enough fat.

Now I eat a ton of fat: heavy cream in my coffee, MCT oil, so much Kerrygold butter, etc. and lose weight. And I'm way less hungry. I certainly early more calories than I did then. Shoot, my bulletproof coffee in the AM is way more calories than my typical dinner in my 20's. But it doesn't spike my insulin so I can still burn fat all day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


Please stop with this Taubes guy. OP knows how she got heavy.... it is calories, heavy person can't eat the same number of calories even after losing weight as never heavy person can. OP, I watched a documentary Weight of the Nation by HBO recently. It is on Youtube, it is scary to watch, but it has legitimate studies done to support the findings presented. We all eat too much, way too much! We aren't even aware how much we are eating and how sedentary we are. Yes, of course it is about hormones as this pp is stating, but your hormones react to your weight gain and caloric intake. I bet you this pp was never overweight and has no clue and might spend 6 hours in the gym. Not everybody wants to gorge on meat all day long. But, definitely avoid sugar in any food and be aware it is hidden in most foods. Even Wegman's rotisserie chicken has sugar. It is insane.


Oh, right, I'm sure you know more than a journalist who has been studying nutrition science for decades since you watched an HBO special. (eye roll.)

Ironically, Taubes would agree with you on the dangerous ubiquity of sugar, even in chicken. But the problem with sugar is not the calories in it! It's how it spikes your blood glucose and spikes your insulin. Starch does it too. A calorie from grass fed butter is not just as fattening as a calorie from sugar.

I spent a decade restricting my calories and drinking Diet Coke all day and still got fatter. In my 20's, I ate 100-1200 calories most days, some less than that, and still got very fat. I worked out every weekday, too. I ate very low fat..a lot of rice, lean chicken, etc. a lot of plain pasta. Low calorie, low fat, sugar free. Got fat. And sicker..PCOS, lots of abdominal fat. It's *hormonal*. I wasn't eating too much...I was eating way too much carbohydrate and not enough fat.

Now I eat a ton of fat: heavy cream in my coffee, MCT oil, so much Kerrygold butter, etc. and lose weight. And I'm way less hungry. I certainly early more calories than I did then. Shoot, my bulletproof coffee in the AM is way more calories than my typical dinner in my 20's. But it doesn't spike my insulin so I can still burn fat all day.


This is so puzzling to me. I lost a lot of weight when I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes and had to eat low carb. The calories I was eating were insane - lots of nuts, cheese, meat. Basically anything that wouldn’t lead to high blood sugar. Is the way calories are calculated incorrect? I can’t see how it works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 50 pounds to lose and I know counting calories is the only way to do it.

It’s been a week and I am starving. I did this before over the summer and was so hungry I had to quit. It made me short tempered and angry, especially with my little kids.

Is this hunger my new normal? I was obviously eating too much since I was overweight.

Does my body just need to get used to eating like this? How long until I’m not so hungry?


You are so wrong. It is not about calories; it's about hormones. Bring down your insulin and you will lose weight. Low carb, high fat. I eat at least 1900 calories a day, sometimes up to 2200, and still lose weight.

You will only fail at this. Calorie restriction leads to a metabolism slowdown. You'll lose weight at first, then plateau, then gain it all back and be sicker than before.

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It will change your life!


Please stop with this Taubes guy. OP knows how she got heavy.... it is calories, heavy person can't eat the same number of calories even after losing weight as never heavy person can. OP, I watched a documentary Weight of the Nation by HBO recently. It is on Youtube, it is scary to watch, but it has legitimate studies done to support the findings presented. We all eat too much, way too much! We aren't even aware how much we are eating and how sedentary we are. Yes, of course it is about hormones as this pp is stating, but your hormones react to your weight gain and caloric intake. I bet you this pp was never overweight and has no clue and might spend 6 hours in the gym. Not everybody wants to gorge on meat all day long. But, definitely avoid sugar in any food and be aware it is hidden in most foods. Even Wegman's rotisserie chicken has sugar. It is insane.


Oh, right, I'm sure you know more than a journalist who has been studying nutrition science for decades since you watched an HBO special. (eye roll.)

Ironically, Taubes would agree with you on the dangerous ubiquity of sugar, even in chicken. But the problem with sugar is not the calories in it! It's how it spikes your blood glucose and spikes your insulin. Starch does it too. A calorie from grass fed butter is not just as fattening as a calorie from sugar.

I spent a decade restricting my calories and drinking Diet Coke all day and still got fatter. In my 20's, I ate 100-1200 calories most days, some less than that, and still got very fat. I worked out every weekday, too. I ate very low fat..a lot of rice, lean chicken, etc. a lot of plain pasta. Low calorie, low fat, sugar free. Got fat. And sicker..PCOS, lots of abdominal fat. It's *hormonal*. I wasn't eating too much...I was eating way too much carbohydrate and not enough fat.

Now I eat a ton of fat: heavy cream in my coffee, MCT oil, so much Kerrygold butter, etc. and lose weight. And I'm way less hungry. I certainly early more calories than I did then. Shoot, my bulletproof coffee in the AM is way more calories than my typical dinner in my 20's. But it doesn't spike my insulin so I can still burn fat all day.


This is so puzzling to me. I lost a lot of weight when I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes and had to eat low carb. The calories I was eating were insane - lots of nuts, cheese, meat. Basically anything that wouldn’t lead to high blood sugar. Is the way calories are calculated incorrect? I can’t see how it works.

I lost weight without trying when I adopted one rule: I never eat carbs without protein and/or fat. That was the only dietary change I made and I lost five pounds without trying. Adding the protein/fat reduces the effect of the carbs on your blood sugar/insulin levels--basically results in a lower glycemic index. You avoid the blood sugar spike, and it changes the way your body processes the calories and stores fat. (You also stay fuller longer, so I ended up eating less.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ended up doing intermittent fasting to deal with the hunger. If I eat breakfast - even a protein rich breakfast, I am ravenous during the day. If I don't eat in the mornings, then I don't really get hungry until about 3:00. At that point I eat two hard boiled eggs and that holds me until I get home and get dinner (lots of veggies and protein).


I was just going to post this. I have failed miserably in the past at counting calories, however I'm on day 13 of IF 16:8 and it's been fairly easy. I'm shocked myself that I'm not shaky in the mornings. My cravings don't kick in until I break my fast.


What’s 16:8?


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it means you fast for 16 hours a day and only eat during 8 hours of the day. So your eating window for every 24 hour period is only 8 hours long. If breakfast is at 10am, your last meal needs to be done by 6pm. No eating outside that window.
Anonymous
OP, make your 1800 calories count. also, if you just dropped sugar/carbs, you may be going through withdrawal. The best way to get around that is to add in fat, protein and fiber.

I would focus on nuts (in moderation), some fruit, lots of veggies, fatty fish like salmon, eggs, low or full fat high protein yogurt (not sweetened, add fruit and a touch of agave), lots of protein. Limit carbs to brown rice, quinoa and maybe 1 serving of sourdough bread (the starter is good). Add a good probiotic--gut balance helps regulate appetite (see the Gut balance revolution or other studies showing that leptin is affected by our gut microbiome).

One trick for me is to make some delicious sauces/dressings that go on fish, veggies, quinoa, and rice. I make a ginger, tahini lemon dressing that I put on steamed veggies, quinoa and chopped almonds. Its also great on white fish.

If you're not hungry in the morning, then go for intermittent fasting, eat a substantial lunch at noon, snack if you need to in the afternoon, and lighter dinner. Then figure out how not to snack out of habit at night (I drink herb tea and then brush my teeth).


fwiw, I eat less that 1500 most days (but I'm 5'1" and 47 and not overweight) and dont feel hungry--I just got used to eating less. However, I felt hangry a lot when my diet was higher sugar and carbs and lower fat and protein.
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