Cast of Hamilton makes statement to Pence at the end of the show.

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

It does seem arrogant and entitled.

What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.

Provide a source as to this is what happened. How do you know he wasn’t INVITED?
And, did you say the same when Hilary and her gang attended?

It's in all the news articles. He asked.

And yes, I actually do think it's onboxious for big shots to use their clout to get into highly sought after sold out events.

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It's amusing that celebrities actually think that intelligent person gives two shits about their political views.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amusing that celebrities actually think that intelligent person gives two shits about their political views.

I don't even understand why Pence would want to see a show that so vehemently disagrees with his personal view of the world. Did he know there were GAY people in the show?

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Anonymous wrote:It's amusing that celebrities actually think that intelligent person gives two shits about their political views.

I care about theirs as much as anyone else's. They are voting citizens who have the right to voice their opinion just like the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

It does seem arrogant and entitled.

What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.

Provide a source as to this is what happened. How do you know he wasn’t INVITED?
And, did you say the same when Hilary and her gang attended?

It's in all the news articles. He asked.

And yes, I actually do think it's onboxious for big shots to use their clout to get into highly sought after sold out events.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

Which part of that message was partisan? That was a direct statement of their feelings and fears to the man who has been elected vice president.

They didn't challenge his legitimacy. They didn't refuse to perform while he was in the audience.

They did their job, and at the end of the show they used their opportunity to ask him to make sure the administration he is a part of represents them, as well.

Did they deliver the same message to Hillary when she was in attendance? No?
It was a partisan message. And, not appropriate.

So don't go see the show. They don't care.

If you stand with injustice, you are guilty of injustice. I will not be silent. They will not be silent.

They are a diverse cast. Whether you believe it or not, we are afraid.

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

Which part of that message was partisan? That was a direct statement of their feelings and fears to the man who has been elected vice president.

They didn't challenge his legitimacy. They didn't refuse to perform while he was in the audience.

They did their job, and at the end of the show they used their opportunity to ask him to make sure the administration he is a part of represents them, as well.

Did they deliver the same message to Hillary when she was in attendance? No?
It was a partisan message. And, not appropriate.

I agree that double standards are always questionable, but I think in this case the statement and the way it was delivered was respectful enogh.

Pence seems to be a great guy, and reacted with class.

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Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

It does seem arrogant and entitled.

What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.

Provide a source as to this is what happened. How do you know he wasn’t INVITED?
And, did you say the same when Hilary and her gang attended?

It's in all the news articles. He asked.

And yes, I actually do think it's onboxious for big shots to use their clout to get into highly sought after sold out events.

Source?

Click on the link. Read. Process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

It does seem arrogant and entitled.

What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.

Provide a source as to this is what happened. How do you know he wasn’t INVITED?
And, did you say the same when Hilary and her gang attended?

Exactly. Pence did what every famous rich person does when they want to go to a Broadway show.

His family didn't, like, stomp over some gay people to get inside.

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell could they possibly deliver that message to Hillary when Hillary's policies did not negatively impact immigrants and minorities and women?

And when she DIDN'T EFFING WIN? You all really need to shut it about Hillary and actually defend the administration you voted in. You don't have Hillary to kick around anymore.

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i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.

I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.

I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.

How does this work when the author of the play is a person of color? How many Tony's? How many sold out shows? You think the theatre gives a shit about Pence?

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Sorry, completely inappropriate. The man was just trying to have a pleasant evening out with his family, and he has to be subjected to that.

First of all, there was nothing disrespectful in the post show comments.

Second of all, if Pence is too thinned skin for that feedback from fellow Americans, then he is in for a very rough ride as Vice President.

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.

Again, find a new word! Your new president has clearly shown he doesn't GAF what is "appropriate." Don't like it? Should have voted in someone else. I'd just get used to it if I were you/them.

Get used to it, huh?
If this type of “demonstration” continues, I can pretty much guarantee that Dems will not be winning another election any time soon.
It is this kind of crap that ushered in Trump to begin with.
People are pretty sick of statements like these coming from Hollywood/Broadway/athletes.

Exactly right. If your arsenal consists of patronizing lectures and scorn, your weapons suck.

[Anonymous]

The show is quite entertaining, and the cast members could say anything they pleased. But it reminds me: "just because you can say something doesn't mean you should."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.

I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.

I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.

Their employers - the show's producer, director, and creator - jointly wrote the statement with input from the cast.
Try again, weasel.

So you will be fine with conservative employers and their employees lecturing when you go into their stores -- telling you to support the new President? I doubt you would be OK with that, but under your logic you must be OK with both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.

I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.

I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.

Nice try, but if you read The NY Times story you'd know it was the employer, Lin-Manuel Miranda, who wrote the statement that was given.