Cast of Hamilton makes statement to Pence at the end of the show.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, completely inappropriate. The man was just trying to have a pleasant evening out with his family, and he has to be subjected to that.


First of all, there was nothing disrespectful in the post show comments.

Second of all, if Pence is too thinned skin for that feedback from fellow Americans, then he is in for a very rough ride as Vice President.


i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


Why not? You got a problem with free speech?

When successful theatrical art is made by conservatives they can make their own statements at the end of their shows.
The personal is political.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.


I'm pretty sure the audience was entertained. And most likely agreed with the cast. And if others don't like it, they can sell their tickets to someone else.


Would you be okay with that line of thinking if you attended a show or entertainment venue and heard a "David Duke" type message???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.



I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, completely inappropriate. The man was just trying to have a pleasant evening out with his family, and he has to be subjected to that.


First of all, there was nothing disrespectful in the post show comments.

Second of all, if Pence is too thinned skin for that feedback from fellow Americans, then he is in for a very rough ride as Vice President.


i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


Why not? You got a problem with free speech?

When successful theatrical art is made by conservatives they can make their own statements at the end of their shows.
The personal is political.


Ha! I don't believe you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.



I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.



+! Exactly!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, completely inappropriate. The man was just trying to have a pleasant evening out with his family, and he has to be subjected to that.


First of all, there was nothing disrespectful in the post show comments.

Second of all, if Pence is too thinned skin for that feedback from fellow Americans, then he is in for a very rough ride as Vice President.


i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


Again, find a new word! Your new president has clearly shown he doesn't GAF what is "appropriate." Don't like it? Should have voted in someone else. I'd just get used to it if I were you/them.


Get used to it, huh?
If this type of “demonstration” continues, I can pretty much guarantee that Dems will not be winning another election any time soon.
It is this kind of crap that ushered in Trump to begin with.
People are pretty sick of statements like these coming from Hollywood/Broadway/athletes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.



I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.



What makes you think their employer is displeased with what they did?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.

This. What a bunch of racist fools they are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.


It does seem arrogant and entitled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.


It does seem arrogant and entitled.


What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.
Anonymous
This is an easy one: how would liberals feel if a Democratic president vp elect were lectured to by a cast of actors when he/she chose to attend a performance?

The issue is not the content of the message but whether it is the appropriate forum for expressing such views. Yes, they have the right to make the comments but is it the right thing to do in that setting?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How the hell could they possibly deliver that message to Hillary when Hillary's policies did not negatively impact immigrants and minorities and women?


No, her policies just drone killed many thousands of women and children. No biggie.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Inappropriate for the cast to have done this.
They had a job to do - entertain.
They failed at that by feeling the need to deliver a partisan political message.


It does seem arrogant and entitled.


What's arrogant and entitled is Pence demanding tickets to a sold out show for himself, family and secret service.


Provide a source as to this is what happened. How do you know he wasn’t INVITED?
And, did you say the same when Hilary and her gang attended?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

i have no problem if the cast member delivered the same message privately after the show (or before). But to do it publicly makes it a partisan and inappropriate statement.

What's next, will national anthem signers at ball games make personal statements in front of 40,000 people after singing the anthem. Will metro train drives start making annoucements over the intercom on the Red Line? Is that also appropriate? No, because that is not the time or place for expressing their personal opinions.


I simply disagree. Well, maybe the WMATA one, because it is quasi-government, but otherwise, entertainers, athletes and regular Americans have the right to express themselves when and where they want. Just because you are uncomfortable with the message doesn't make your opinion right. You probably agree that is ok for a town to display a manger scene at Christmas time (I do), but possibly object to Channukah lights as well? It isn't dis-similar, other than the religious component.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the play or download its soundtrack.



I think if someone is being paid to work or perform, then they are doing a disservice to their employer if they take advantage of their paid position to express personal opinions that are not in any way related to the job they are being paid for.

I give lots of speeches on behalf of my employer. If I expressed highly political or personal opinions during those speeches I would be fired immediately because that is not what I am being paid for and because my actions will certainly alienate some of my employer's potential clients and customers who heard my comments.

If they want to express their opinions while off-duty that is obviously fine with me, but not while on the job.



Their employers - the show's producer, director, and creator - jointly wrote the statement with input from the cast.
Try again, weasel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is an easy one: how would liberals feel if a Democratic president vp elect were lectured to by a cast of actors when he/she chose to attend a performance?

The issue is not the content of the message but whether it is the appropriate forum for expressing such views. Yes, they have the right to make the comments but is it the right thing to do in that setting?


Yes, it was absolutely the right thing to do.
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