Video shows moments before North Miami Police shot unarmed man

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ahhhh you people are so frustrating. A therapist was trying to help an autistic adult and was shot! Why do we need to bring up the "there are good cops" argument? I know there are good cops, I am friends with one of them. But this THERAPIST was trying to help a man who ran away, but because he was black he was shot. The cop straight up told him he didn't know why he shot him. They then proceeded to put BOTH of them in handcuffs!! This is not ok folks!! I imagine the autistic man will have a hard time not freaking out around cops now. Fantastic.

Then think critically, too. This was another tragic incident. But unless you get to the ROOT of the problem, police brutality will not float off. If a child is raped repeatedly at night, don't you think that cycle will continue somehow - either ending in self-destruction or in harming others.

When a cop gets to that level, it's b/c s/he has seen too much. Psychological supports should be ongoing for people in high-stress occupations. If this cop dealt mainly with AA males who were dangerous, for example, that's what will shape his brain. not saying it's right - just saying, folks - Get to to the root.

This is nonsense. You have taken a situation in which an unarmed, prone, man was shot by a police officer and turned it into....what? A indictment of Black culture? How do you know this cop has dealt "mainly with AA males who were dangerous?" Or are you just assuming that, because, you know, all Black men are violent monsters in your mind.

You should be ashamed of yourself to put your assumptions on display like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher too. It doesn't give me some high ground on how to discuss. I understand and applaud your outrage over each incident. No police abuse is acceptable. However, i think that the nonstop posting of police violations has made the rate seem far more than it actually is. It is not bad to occasionally put these incidents in perspective as they relate to non incidents in a country as vast as ours. There are bad apple surgeons, bad apple judges, ba apple politicians, bad apple soldiers, and yes bad apple teachers. But working with teachers - you would be indignant if all teachers were painted with the brush of the few awful ones, and i think in this past year our society has come close to accepting treating police as a whole as an abusive class. Which is not supported by the fact of all the good policing that happens every day. When you talk about institutional problems I am listening to your ideas for solutions. Some of your proposals sound like they will help law enforcement be better at reaching its goal -to protect us and civil society.

Honestly, I don't give an eff about all the times that police are kind to white children, or help get kittens off roofs or whatever. Black men are being SHOT, while laying on the ground, and while trying to do their job. There's no sticker that some kind beat cop can give out that will change that, or in any way counterbalance it.

What you are seeing isn't vilification of the police. It is technology exposing what the Black community has known for generations - the police are not there for them. It seems like a lot to you because you are hearing about it for the first time.

And, no, we shouldn't stop posting the videos because it's upsetting to white America. We should be demanding accountability and responsibility from our police. This wasn't a skinned knee or even an unlawful shake-down. It was an officer firing a deadly weapon at a man who, again, was laying on the ground with his hands in the air.

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Why did he get in the way, the police came to handle the situation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher too. It doesn't give me some high ground on how to discuss. I understand and applaud your outrage over each incident. No police abuse is acceptable. However, i think that the nonstop posting of police violations has made the rate seem far more than it actually is. It is not bad to occasionally put these incidents in perspective as they relate to non incidents in a country as vast as ours. There are bad apple surgeons, bad apple judges, ba apple politicians, bad apple soldiers, and yes bad apple teachers. But working with teachers - you would be indignant if all teachers were painted with the brush of the few awful ones, and i think in this past year our society has come close to accepting treating police as a whole as an abusive class. Which is not supported by the fact of all the good policing that happens every day. When you talk about institutional problems I am listening to your ideas for solutions. Some of your proposals sound like they will help law enforcement be better at reaching its goal -to protect us and civil society.

We are not treating the police as a whole as an abusive class. If you would apply your same logic you would realize that there are only a few bad apples doing that as well. But in your double standard, the public servants who carry guns and have a duty to protect the public receive more deference than an internet poster exercising their first amendment rights.

The fact is that last year 38 unarmed black people were shot and killed by police. That's a lot, certainly enough to describe as a big problem. If you feel that the problem has been overemphasized, maybe it's because you don't think something should be done to prevent this. Maybe you think you have to break a few eggs and in this case the number is 38.

But to me the level of attention should be whatever is necessary until the police demonstrate substantial effort to fix the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For every egregious police act, can we also post every single good police act that occurred at that very same moment in time across our fifty states? Just for proportionality? I'm guessing if this is criminal--it's on video, will be investigated, and justice will be done. Will all the good police who were doing good work at the same time get commendations? Doubtful.

And so no sympathy from you for this man? Goodness gracious, people are cold. Guess it doesn't matter much when he doesn't look anything like you.

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So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For every egregious police act, can we also post every single good police act that occurred at that very same moment in time across our fifty states? Just for proportionality? I'm guessing if this is criminal--it's on video, will be investigated, and justice will be done. Will all the good police who were doing good work at the same time get commendations? Doubtful.

But police are supposed to do good things and act appropriately. It shouldn't be newsworthy.

Or maybe it should. Because the preponderance of police violence stories is not proportional to the scale of these actual events. If we published every good police act that occurred at the exact same moment, it might be a good thing to demonstrate the ratio. This act will be addressed if it was illegal, but all the legal behavior should be recognized as well.

PP, I understand what you are saying, there's definitely news bias for sensational events, however, there is also racial bias in policing.

Philando Castile was stopped 46 times by police for minor and often made up traffic violations like a busted tail light:
http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/07/20/486512846/46-stops-on-the-driving-life-and-death-of-philando-castile?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=storiesfromnpr

That is not good policing--that is harassment and profiling. Stop and frisk laws--proportionally whom do you think was stopped and frisked?

I am grateful that we have police. They do put their lives at risk to protect the public. I am horrified by the deliberate targeting of law enforcement by criminals. However, there is an ever widening gap of racial injustice when it comes to policing. Being black shouldn't be a reason to be shot and killed.

They dont do stop and frisk anymore. Policies do change. Unfortunately, crime is higher now in places where they stopped. I'm guessing you are ok with that trade off. Everything is a trade off .

Yes, I know that "stop and frisk" was ruled unconstitutional in NY--but show any credible evidence that it made any difference on crime rates before and after implementation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

Let me correct myself

#StopBrutality

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

I think the cop shooter is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy. Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the black man is laying on the ground with his arms clearly in the air with nothing in them, the white guy has something in his hands, and the police shoot the black man. SMH.

+1 That's exactly what I just said to my DH! This is why people are pissed. I have cops in my family. I know they put their lives on the line. But stupid, racist cops like this pisses me off, and gives all cops a bad name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

I think the cop shooter is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy. Fixed that for you.

Start your own thread. What that copy did was terrible. What that cop killer did was also horrible, not equally, but you know that saying.. "two wrongs don't make a right". You really can't see that what this cop did was terrible? There are good cops out there to be sure, but what this cop did was so very wrong. I'm not a sue happy person, but I hope this guy sues the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

I think the cop shooter is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy. Fixed that for you.

Start your own thread. What that copy did was terrible. What that cop killer did was also horrible, not equally, but you know that saying.. "two wrongs don't make a right". You really can't see that what this cop did was terrible? There are good cops out there to be sure, but what this cop did was so very wrong. I'm not a sue happy person, but I hope this guy sues the police.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

I think the cop shooter is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy. Fixed that for you.

Start your own thread. What that copy did was terrible. What that cop killer did was also horrible, not equally, but you know that saying.. "two wrongs don't make a right". You really can't see that what this cop did was terrible? There are good cops out there to be sure, but what this cop did was so very wrong. I'm not a sue happy person, but I hope this guy sues the police.

What part of bolded did you misunderstand?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So tell me. What EXACTLY did that man do to merit being shot?

+1.

I think BLM is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy.

#StopPoliceBrutality

I think the cop shooter is inherently biased and even stupid, but there was no reason for shooting that guy. Fixed that for you.

Start your own thread. What that copy did was terrible. What that cop killer did was also horrible, not equally, but you know that saying.. "two wrongs don't make a right". You really can't see that what this cop did was terrible? There are good cops out there to be sure, but what this cop did was so very wrong. I'm not a sue happy person, but I hope this guy sues the police.

What part of bolded did you misunderstand?

Let's try this again. I THINK THE COP WHO SHOT THE UNARMED MAN IN SOUTH FLORIDA IS INHERENTLY BIASED AND EVEN STUPID, BUT THERE WAS NO REASON FOR SHOOTING THAT UNARMED GUY.
Better?