Humans behaving badly means zoo animals die

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read an article that said the child's caregiver was busy with several young children in his/her care and didn't see the child slip away. So unfortunate.

PP here--clarified in bold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The zoo should be held accountable. Obviously their safety standards are lacking. How did a kid fit through the rails? This isn't a case of the parents hoisting the child up. Isn't this the same zoo that had the polar bears get loose earlier in the year?

"it appeared the boy went under the rail, through wires and over the moat wall."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/us/zoo-kills-gorilla/

It sounds pretty safe to me, with numerous checks. Unfortunately it's not idiot-parent/caretaker proof.

The original article I read just said he slipped through the bars and fell into the moat. Either way, the child should not be punished for what is the fault of an adult.

yes he should. He should be punished for not staying w/ his caretaker and for not staying on the sidewalk and for climbing on/through/whatever a fence. All things a four year should know better than to do.

Honestly I agree - a 4 year old knows better. Doesn't mean he deserved to be killed by the gorilla, but the kid did a very dangerous, very stupid, very deadly thing.

Unfortunately neither the kid or parents will likely get any sort of punishment, and the poor gorilla had to pay the ultimate price. The vast majority of people and zoo-visitors are capable of basic common sense safety. There is no amount of security that will make these kinds of things "impossible" from happening. But too many parents expect others to do all the work for them, create a perfect world for their kids, without having to enact basic responsibilities parenting themselves.

A punishment is something unpleasant that makes you less likely to repeat the behavior. The kid was taken to the hospital in serious condition. I am going to guess that whatever cause the severe injuries had a punitive impact.

[Anonymous]

The people who are condemning the parents have no idea whether they are to blame or not. Maybe they are, but it is also possible that the barriers were not appropriate and the zoo is at fault. Or maybe a combination of both. You should withhold judgment if and until you have more information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously the child should have been saved, but those parents are responsible for the death of the gorilla and should be held responsible.

+1.nthte parents should be fined or have to do community service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people who are condemning the parents have no idea whether they are to blame or not. Maybe they are, but it is also possible that the barriers were not appropriate and the zoo is at fault. Or maybe a combination of both. You should withhold judgment if and until you have more information.

Because millions of other visitors to the zoo experienced the same thing? This happens all the time, on the regular?

No, the kid deliberately went through several safety barriers, and the parents allowed the kid to do so through their lack of attention/watch.

[Anonymous]

Sorry but this is on the Zoo. You expect the animals to be properly enclosed.

[Anonymous]

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The zoo should be held accountable. Obviously their safety standards are lacking. How did a kid fit through the rails? This isn't a case of the parents hoisting the child up. Isn't this the same zoo that had the polar bears get loose earlier in the year?

"it appeared the boy went under the rail, through wires and over the moat wall."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/us/zoo-kills-gorilla/

It sounds pretty safe to me, with numerous checks. Unfortunately it's not idiot-parent/caretaker proof.

The original article I read just said he slipped through the bars and fell into the moat. Either way, the child should not be punished for what is the fault of an adult.

yes he should. He should be punished for not staying w/ his caretaker and for not staying on the sidewalk and for climbing on/through/whatever a fence. All things a four year should know better than to do.

Punished by being left to die? No. Also, pretty sure child has been punished enough and learned his lesson. The kid was 3. I assume you aren't a parent. If you are, bless your grinch heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people who are condemning the parents have no idea whether they are to blame or not. Maybe they are, but it is also possible that the barriers were not appropriate and the zoo is at fault. Or maybe a combination of both. You should withhold judgment if and until you have more information.

Because millions of other visitors to the zoo experienced the same thing? This happens all the time, on the regular?

No, the kid deliberately went through several safety barriers, and the parents allowed the kid to do so through their lack of attention/watch.

The zoo had animals escape just two months ago so yeah, this does seem to be an ongoing problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but this is on the Zoo. You expect the animals to be properly enclosed.

The animals were properly enclosed. The 4 yr old invaded the animal's enclosure. These people should be banned for life from all zoos! If you cannot watch more than one kid then you only take one to the zoo, restaurant, etc. The gorilla was not irresponsible. The people were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The zoo should be held accountable. Obviously their safety standards are lacking. How did a kid fit through the rails? This isn't a case of the parents hoisting the child up. Isn't this the same zoo that had the polar bears get loose earlier in the year?

"it appeared the boy went under the rail, through wires and over the moat wall."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/us/zoo-kills-gorilla/

It sounds pretty safe to me, with numerous checks. Unfortunately it's not idiot-parent/caretaker proof.

The original article I read just said he slipped through the bars and fell into the moat. Either way, the child should not be punished for what is the fault of an adult.

yes he should. He should be punished for not staying w/ his caretaker and for not staying on the sidewalk and for climbing on/through/whatever a fence. All things a four year should know better than to do.

Punished by being left to die? No. Also, pretty sure child has been punished enough and learned his lesson. The kid was 3. I assume you aren't a parent. If you are, bless your grinch heart.

He is 4 and a 4 yr old should know better. He can go through life knowing an innocent, endangered species animal was killed because he is a brat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

doodlebug wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The zoo should be held accountable. Obviously their safety standards are lacking. How did a kid fit through the rails? This isn't a case of the parents hoisting the child up. Isn't this the same zoo that had the polar bears get loose earlier in the year?

"it appeared the boy went under the rail, through wires and over the moat wall."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/28/us/zoo-kills-gorilla/

It sounds pretty safe to me, with numerous checks. Unfortunately it's not idiot-parent/caretaker proof.

The original article I read just said he slipped through the bars and fell into the moat. Either way, the child should not be punished for what is the fault of an adult.

yes he should. He should be punished for not staying w/ his caretaker and for not staying on the sidewalk and for climbing on/through/whatever a fence. All things a four year should know better than to do.

Punished by being left to die? No. Also, pretty sure child has been punished enough and learned his lesson. The kid was 3. I assume you aren't a parent. If you are, bless your grinch heart.

He is 4 and a 4 yr old should know better. He can go through life knowing an innocent, endangered species animal was killed because he is a brat.

Yeah, I don't think that is going to be his reality. You sound irrationally angry. Don't you have blood to throw on a fur coat somewhere?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but this is on the Zoo. You expect the animals to be properly enclosed.

The animals were properly enclosed. The 4 yr old invaded the animal's enclosure. These people should be banned for life from all zoos! If you cannot watch more than one kid then you only take one to the zoo, restaurant, etc. The gorilla was not irresponsible. The people were.

Did you look at the picture? The rails were in no way, shape or form adequate. Having animals on display to the public means the zoo takes on an added responsibility of not only making sure the animals can't get out, but that humans cannot get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so disturbed when human beings don't value the lives of other human BEINGS! Particularly human beings under the age of five!!

I'd suggest sending whomever was supposed to be watching the 4-year old into the gorilla exhibit, to distract the gorilla while the child could have been rescued. It was their failure, and neither the poor gorilla or child should pay for their complete idiocy and neglect.

+1

I have to agree with this. Other PP should be saying that the parent should not have been on their cell or talking, or otherwise so easily distracted. Paying attention to one's surroundings is not too much to ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry but this is on the Zoo. You expect the animals to be properly enclosed.

The animals were properly enclosed. The 4 yr old invaded the animal's enclosure. These people should be banned for life from all zoos! If you cannot watch more than one kid then you only take one to the zoo, restaurant, etc. The gorilla was not irresponsible. The people were.

+1

The gorilla was more caring than the adult. Did you see the video?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously the child should have been saved, but those parents are responsible for the death of the gorilla and should be held responsible.

+1.nthte parents should be fined or have to do community service.

+1