Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad that we live in a world that the first thought that comes to mind after a plane crash/disappearance is terrorism.
I know it’s a possibility, but it is just so sad that this is where we are.


I know.

I've been following the live thread over on reddit though and a lot of aviation people are saying the data isn't supporting an accident scenario.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Would a surface to air missile reach 37,000 ft?


They can reach 15 miles, that is 79200 feet.


Yes. Do you remember the Malaysia Airlines 17 flight shot down over the Ukraine?!
It had been mid flight Amsterdam to Malaysia!! It had nothing to do with what was going on on the ground.
It was shot down by a Russian BUK surface to air missile- by separatists who were far too stupid to realize that this was not the Ukrainian cargo plane they thought it was.
I am still so upset every time I think about that one.


Was Russia ever held accountable for this tragedy? This is a sincere question - I have not heard anything about what happened in regard to this.


No, they vetoed the UN resolution that wanted to hold them accountable via a tribunal.

What is clear is that the Russian separatists shot down this plane at full intercontinental cruising altitude with a surface to air missile and killed almost 300 people, apparently confusing it with a Ukrainian plane.
The European countries that conducted the investigation identified the weapon without a doubt.
Whether Russia was involved other than providing this weapon at some point - that is up to speculation, unlikely in my opinion (do the separatists phone Russia before every shot?).
The entire conversation of this military unit where they boasted that they just shot down a cargo plane was live, and on social media as well (later deleted).
No, none of them will ever be held accountable.


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that the lack of distress call or communication points more to foul play, rather than a slower decent due to a malfunction.


Please stop speculating. If there's an emergency, communicating is not exactly the top priority.


You are wrong. It is a top priority, and if you don't like speculation I advise not to look at this or similar discussion boards.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that the lack of distress call or communication points more to foul play, rather than a slower decent due to a malfunction.


Please stop speculating. If there's an emergency, communicating is not exactly the top priority.


You are wrong. It is a top priority, and if you don't like speculation I advise not to look at this or similar discussion boards.

Well said.
Anonymous
What about a surrounding country shooting it down (even accidentally) and just not fessing up? Although, I still think getting a bomb on the plane prior to CDG is more likely, is it a feasible scenario?
Anonymous
Just read this from the Economist online, re: CDG airport:
"Sixty workers, out of 86,000 with permission to go airside, have had their authorisation revoked this year due to security concerns. For now, many people's suspicions reside there."
Anonymous
To find out the Truth we will have to wait for Trump to comment on this.
Anonymous
Seems most likely either an on-board bomb or massive mechanical failure.

While it is true a surface-to-air Mille can reach that high, those are the very large platform fired mobile launching systems. Not likely to be found in the Mediterranean unless it is on a naval vessel, like the Vincennes (remember that one). A shoulder fired missile is not likely to hit a target that high.

As for hard to get? Not really. The world-wide black market for military weapons is pretty open. Go play on Tor with a few bitcoins and voilà.
Anonymous
Officials said the plane made a sharp 90 degree turn, then 360 degrees or something . . And there was a distress call. Sounds like a terrorist took the plane down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Officials said the plane made a sharp 90 degree turn, then 360 degrees or something . . And there was a distress call. Sounds like a terrorist took the plane down.


The "distress call" came about 2 hours after last contact and doesn't necessarily mean made by a person. It could have been a technical distress call generated by equipment on the plane
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Officials said the plane made a sharp 90 degree turn, then 360 degrees or something . . And there was a distress call. Sounds like a terrorist took the plane down.


The "distress call" came about 2 hours after last contact and doesn't necessarily mean made by a person. It could have been a technical distress call generated by equipment on the plane


But the sharp turns to. The malaysian flight did that too, for which an islamic terror group claimed responsibility trying to "take the fight" to china or something.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am concerned that the lack of distress call or communication points more to foul play, rather than a slower decent due to a malfunction.


Please stop speculating. If there's an emergency, communicating is not exactly the top priority.


You are wrong. It is a top priority, and if you don't like speculation I advise not to look at this or similar discussion boards.


Hi, no, it's not. The first priority is keeping the aircraft flying. The second is finding a safe landing space. Please, in the future, since you don't know what you're talking about, don't volunteer your worthless opinion. You can stop stop posting now. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Officials said the plane made a sharp 90 degree turn, then 360 degrees or something . . And there was a distress call. Sounds like a terrorist took the plane down.

Agree.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are making flat out stupid remarks and not even knowing what your talking about. Missiles and all. Pretty obvious it was another bomb on board just like the last Russian plane.


This is the likely scenario only because while a surface to air missile would have been capable of hitting the plane, these missiles are not that easy to get your hands on making a bomb-on-board scenario just a more likely scenario.


I feel either scenario is just as likely. It is difficult to get a bomb passed security too.

It's actually pretty stupid for a missile. 1) it's the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. 2) a large missile uses radar(which would have been detected by countless militaries in the area. 3) you need a boat to lunch a missile and support the radar. 4) man portable missile would not reach the plane. 5) you would have to line up your boat with the plane(tough to do, lot of water, need big radar track the plane and will have to be within 15 miles of the plane).
Anonymous
Only 10% of any problems occur at 37,000 feet. This is considered a very safe zone during a flight.
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