Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Google - http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/middleeast/egyptair-data-recorders/index.html

Honestly! Damaged by a crash?

Why don't they engineer these things to withstand a crash?? Engineers are dumb.

Those things a pretty durable. If they built them to satisfy your desires, the plane would be too heavy to fly and it would seat 1 passenger.

[Anonymous]

WHat are the Egyptians sending them to France?

Does france have some secret technology that Egypt doesn't?

Weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WHat are the Egyptians sending them to France?

Does france have some secret technology that Egypt doesn't?

Weird.

Not secret at all. Some just have better equipment and experience. Is it really any surprise that the NTSB is called in on almost every single aircraft disaster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WHat are the Egyptians sending them to France?

Does france have some secret technology that Egypt doesn't?

Weird.

Most likely. France is a modern country with modern technology.

The data download failed when Egypt tried it, so they're sending the chips to France for cleaning and repair. The plane was made in France, the chips in the US. French and US investigators have been working in Egypt and in France to extract the data. The chips will be returned to Egypt if France can succeed in making it possible to get information off them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Google - http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/middleeast/egyptair-data-recorders/index.html

Honestly! Damaged by a crash?

Why don't they engineer these things to withstand a crash?? Engineers are dumb.

Those things a pretty durable. If they built them to satisfy your desires, the plane would be too heavy to fly and it would seat 1 passenger.

Why don't they send the info to the cloud in real time and access it if the need it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds like the Malaysian 370 flight. Early confirmations/reports disputed, speculation quickly changing, and what we though we know didn't actually happen.

Much too early to know anything. There are pretty much zero facts, except a downed plane in the sea. Beyond that there aren't really any certainties.

Interesting that they both went down shortly after entering new air space.

What are you thinking happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they capture this info in realtime and send it to a cloud type storage? It seems like these black boxes are old outdated technology. Even it the data loops in like 1 hours clips and only stores 60 minutes of data why hasn't this been something implemented on planes?

Airplanes are old. This one was from 2003, a relatively young aircraft. They stay in service for decades.

What does this have to do with routing the flight data to the cloud? We send everything to the cloud now. I get the place itself if old but I'm sure engineers can somehow take the data itself and route that info via satellite to a cloud like computer source and save it there. Age has very little to do with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Google - http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/middleeast/egyptair-data-recorders/index.html

Honestly! Damaged by a crash?

Why don't they engineer these things to withstand a crash?? Engineers are dumb.

Those things a pretty durable. If they built them to satisfy your desires, the plane would be too heavy to fly and it would seat 1 passenger.

Why don't they send the info to the cloud in real time and access it if the need it?

Airplanes are old. This one was from 2003, a relatively young aircraft. They stay in service for decades.

Yes, airplanes can be retrofitted, and sensors could be added that constantly or periodically upload information to the cloud, in addition to sensors that already periodically send out information (that's what it means to go off radar). But that's expensive and, if it's not mandatory, probably won't be done universally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What does this have to do with routing the flight data to the cloud? We send everything to the cloud now. I get the place itself if old but I'm sure engineers can somehow take the data itself and route that info via satellite to a cloud like computer source and save it there. Age has very little to do with this.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/black-box-data-stored-in-cloud.htm

There are lots of articles about the same question and there are several answers. Cost is the first answer, both for the satellite bandwidth, and also for data storage and refitting. Additional answers include reliability -- satellite links can be lost especially during violent maneuvers, while a battery-powered internal device won't ever lose contact with the plane. Black boxes usually work very well, are pretty rugged, and are rarely lost. And most crashes occur during takeoff and landing, so that finding the black box is not a problem at all.