I Miss Target!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently op has a teen girl but she never shops at h and m, gap, Aeropostale, or any of the stores with unisex fitting rooms where all other teens shop.

Seriously

NP. Target seems different to me. Those other stores you mention are geared to a specific demographic and shopper. Target is literally for everyone.

What deli defense does any of this make?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you. A few kids will be attacked and a few lawsuits will change things. Just wait.

They won't be attacked by trans people.

Far more likely trans people will be attacked.

All of the existing cases in the news of creeps filming women involved men who just walked in anyway and broke the law. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws.

Also, if you read the Target release, this isn't actually a new policy. It's been their policy for years, they're just making a statement.

And finally, if OP's kids are traipsing around Columbia Heights she has bigger things to worry about than a Target dressing room. It's not the worst neighborhood but there are way more crimes happening there than in any Target dressing room. OP is just scared and transphobic and wants to blame someone for a crime that has not happened. It is a shame she is raising her kids as such.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently op has a teen girl but she never shops at h and m, gap, Aeropostale, or any of the stores with unisex fitting rooms where all other teens shop.

Seriously

NP. Target seems different to me. Those other stores you mention are geared to a specific demographic and shopper. Target is literally for everyone.

What deli defense does any of this make?

Difference*

It doesn't. Strawman argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you. A few kids will be attacked and a few lawsuits will change things. Just wait.

They won't be attacked by trans people.

Far more likely trans people will be attacked.

All of the existing cases in the news of creeps filming women involved men who just walked in anyway and broke the law. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws.

Also, if you read the Target release, this isn't actually a new policy. It's been their policy for years, they're just making a statement.

And finally, if OP's kids are traipsing around Columbia Heights she has bigger things to worry about than a Target dressing room. It's not the worst neighborhood but there are way more crimes happening there than in any Target dressing room. OP is just scared and transphobic and wants to blame someone for a crime that has not happened. It is a shame she is raising her kids as such.

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[Anonymous]

Oh please. Its a room you go into and lock the door. Many clothing stores for teens have unisex fitting rooms. Did you not know that?

[Anonymous]

Enjoy Walmart

[Anonymous]

This is so weird - there are a ton of stores with unisex fitting areas -- is OP going to also refuse to shop at the Gap, J. Crew, Old Navy, etc.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you. A few kids will be attacked and a few lawsuits will change things. Just wait.

Please find reports (plural) of attacks or harassment happening in dressing rooms at Gap, Old Navy, or any of the numerous places that have unisex dressing rooms and report back. This policy is a non-issue.

Harassment of women and trans individuals is absolutely worthy of conversation. This just isn't the way to start it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, my experience with target dressing room attendants is that they have no trouble voicing their opinion. When I was 6 months pregnant, (and petite in size, and had maybe gained 10lbs at that point.) I took a stretchy maxi dress from the misses section in to try on and she attempted to shame/berate me for trying it on because shock horror, didn't I realize it wasn't from the maternity section?

But that's the point. Now, as of mid-April sometime, they have no corporate policy about this to voice in the first place.

So you think they have a corporate policy to not allow pregnant women to wear non maternity clothes?

I agree with the posters who are pointing out unisex dressing rooms are a thing lots of places have done for years. I'm pretty sure even places like Brooks Brothers has unisex dressing rooms. We're not talking about the locker room at the gym with everyone getting changed in the middle of a large space without stalls/doors.

If you are so concerned for your daughter's sake, tell them to bring the clothes home to try on and return what they don't want. The extra step is good skill for when they are older and need to better manage their one and money. If I can't be bothered to return something, I probably don't need to try it on. If I don't need to try it on...it probably isn't worth the money anyway.

[Anonymous]

I go to whatever store is most convenient for me regardless of their philosophies. Heading to Target later today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't remember the last time I was in a gender-segregated fitting room. They don't have them at most stores where I shop, just a section with individual stalls to try on clothes. This goes back WAY before the current "trend" of inclusion.

Assault and harassment are illegal. Period. No matter where they take place. No, an attendant can't single a man out for being in a closed stall next to women who are also in a closed stall. But they can--and should--monitor for actual negative behaviors. Being a man (or a trans individual or a certain race or whatever) is not, in and of itself, a threat of negative behavior.

Exactly, I just look for the sign that says, dressing room, and try on clothes that way. I will take a few extra steps out of respect for other customers to use a dressing room so I am not right next to someone.

The OP won't boycott anything. When people say, I will avoid such and such place, it rarely ever happens, mostly out of convenience.

Oh, but you're wrong about that. I know that I will be paying more at other stores (like getting detergent at the grocery store or whatever), but I'm absolutely serious about this. I will not be shopping at Target again until this policy is reversed. This includes the DC area and where we spend our summers at the beach. Yes, it will be inconvenient in some ways, but we will adapt. And, probably save money in the long run because my short trips to Target always end up in buying more than intended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you. A few kids will be attacked and a few lawsuits will change things. Just wait.

They won't be attacked by trans people.

Far more likely trans people will be attacked.

All of the existing cases in the news of creeps filming women involved men who just walked in anyway and broke the law. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws.

Also, if you read the Target release, this isn't actually a new policy. It's been their policy for years, they're just making a statement.

And finally, if OP's kids are traipsing around Columbia Heights she has bigger things to worry about than a Target dressing room. It's not the worst neighborhood but there are way more crimes happening there than in any Target dressing room. OP is just scared and transphobic and wants to blame someone for a crime that has not happened. It is a shame she is raising her kids as such.

I don't want to be attacked by anyone. How's that? Dammit this is a system turned upside down.

[Anonymous]

You go in a stall and LOCK THE DOOR. It is quite literally the safest and most private place in the store at that point. Tell me again what the problem is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enjoy Walmart

I actually don't' mind Walmart, although I prefer Target, mostly because I'm used to it. But price-wise they are similar and the merchandise is basically the same.

[Anonymous]

I'm confused. We are talking about closed stalls right? Do any stores NOT have this?