Georgetown Visitation Lacrosse- Recruiting Practices

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I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

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Visi's lax team was ranked 25th in the country (pre-season). There are lots of excellent lacrosse players -- I'm talking about girls who have played on good club teams for years and who work hard and are dedicated lax players -- that are just not going to make the cut on merit at a top-25 lax school. They would be starters on most other schools, but not at a top-25 school. That is a difficult reality to accept for a parent and child who have both spent lots of blood, sweat, tears (and money) on lacrosse but it is just reality. So complaining about a HS coaches' "conspiracy" against kids from club A or B is just silliness.

I would agree with you if they didn't recruit. How would you like your daughter to have been a starter after playing/practicing/going to school at Visi for years. Then find out the coach recruited players from public schools, brought them in the last 1-2 years while your child was benched her Junior/Senior year? You think that is fair. The actual coaches who coached her gave up and found others taught by other coaches. What does that say about the coach's skill, ethic, and thought for the Catholic school?

This kind of disappointment happens all the time in sports. New kid moves into town or a kid moves across town, or changes schools/club team and pushes lesser talented kid to the bench. This is especially true at a nationally ranked program that draws kids from all over who want a chance to play with and against the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeez Louise -- this place sounds pretty wacky.

+1

But they sure are holy.

[Anonymous]

This can't be serious -it is clearly one softball parent who is upset her daughter was displaced when a stronger player joined the team. That's how sports work everywhere! Playing "years" - at the most two, since Visi starts in 9th grade - and very likely on JV, since players who make varsity as freshman or sophomores are rarely (if ever) cut at any school, never guarantees a spot on varsity. And I have never heard of a senior transfer student - or even a junior, although I'm willing to believe there may have been one junior. As for lacrosse, the team is nationally ranked, and many, many girls play JV for one or two years and never make varsity, just like many girls play JV soccer at my local public school, but never make varsity. That's the nature of competitive high school sports. I think picking a high school for sports is ridiculous, but maybe the one or two parents voicing their repeated complaints should have done so for their daughters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jeez Louise -- this place sounds pretty wacky.

+1

But they sure are holy.

Yeah, my kids have played different sports and I've seen some very delusionary parents with stressed-out kids in all of these sports, but lacrosse parents are off the charts in this regard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeez Louise -- this place sounds pretty wacky.

+1

But they sure are holy.

Yeah, my kids have played different sports and I've seen some very delusionary parents with stressed-out kids in all of these sports, but lacrosse parents are off the charts in this regard.

We have friends in Good Counsel and they are crazy too

[Anonymous]

Does Visi actively recruit for all sports outside of the school or is it just Lacrosse and softball? We are looking into that school but this concerns me.

[Anonymous]

Why is Visi Lacrosse top 25? The Varsity seems to be on a losing all of their games? Is it the players or the coaches or both? Can't imagine how they can be top 25?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeez Louise -- this place sounds pretty wacky.

+1

But they sure are holy.

Yeah, my kids have played different sports and I've seen some very delusionary parents with stressed-out kids in all of these sports, but lacrosse parents are off the charts in this regard.

We have friends in Good Counsel and they are crazy too

Good Counsel wins the crazy award in every sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Why is Visi Lacrosse top 25? The Varsity seems to be on a losing all of their games? Is it the players or the coaches or both? Can't imagine how they can be top 25?

Once they start losing with their own students from Visi the coaches start scouting public schools and offering them scholarships to come and play.

[Anonymous]

01:19 - Are you coming or going? Why all the interrogative declaratory sentences? Are you not sure of how you want to weigh in? Covering all your bases? Crazy and weak post seeking nothing but trouble. I can assure you that Visi lacrosse is a strong program in an excellent school, just like so many other ISL lacrosse programs. You may not see it, but it is. Or, maybe you do think you see it. Maybe you're one of the parents who thinks that they know it all about DMV lacrosse - playing, coaching, refereeing, everything. The high school world of lacrosse is tired of you.

08:35 - "Loads of talent on team Coaches are the worst," blah, blah, blah. Did you answer your own 01:19 post? Who exactly are you? Why would you spew such lies about the coaches? Because that's what they are - all lies. Are you a parent from an opposing school eager to insult another team? Or are you one of the very few mean, vindictive parents currently at Visi that can't accept the limitations of their own daughter? Or maybe you're the blowhard who still can't shut his/her mouth about Visi not hiring the coaches they recommended way back when. Just. Shut. Up. Already.

To everyone else - and really, I have no idea whom I'm addressing here because this thread about Visitation is so off the rails - if you truly want to know about Visitation lacrosse or any other ISL lacrosse program for that matter, please don't believe the commenters here who lose all semblance of rationality and truth due to the anonymity and post only to boost themselves in their own small minds. Contact the school or the coaches or a sane parent. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:01:19 - Are you coming or going? Why all the interrogative declaratory sentences? Are you not sure of how you want to weigh in? Covering all your bases? Crazy and weak post seeking nothing but trouble. I can assure you that Visi lacrosse is a strong program in an excellent school, just like so many other ISL lacrosse programs. You may not see it, but it is. Or, maybe you do think you see it. Maybe you're one of the parents who thinks that they know it all about DMV lacrosse - playing, coaching, refereeing, everything. The high school world of lacrosse is tired of you.

08:35 - "Loads of talent on team Coaches are the worst," blah, blah, blah. Did you answer your own 01:19 post? Who exactly are you? Why would you spew such lies about the coaches? Because that's what they are - all lies. Are you a parent from an opposing school eager to insult another team? Or are you one of the very few mean, vindictive parents currently at Visi that can't accept the limitations of their own daughter? Or maybe you're the blowhard who still can't shut his/her mouth about Visi not hiring the coaches they recommended way back when. Just. Shut. Up. Already.

To everyone else - and really, I have no idea whom I'm addressing here because this thread about Visitation is so off the rails - if you truly want to know about Visitation lacrosse or any other ISL lacrosse program for that matter, please don't believe the commenters here who lose all semblance of rationality and truth due to the anonymity and post only to boost themselves in their own small minds. Contact the school or the coaches or a sane parent. Seriously.

Signed,
Visi administration

[Anonymous]

Steady, there, 02:10 and get some sleep. It must be hard slogging through your world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Steady, there, 02:10 and get some sleep. It must be hard slogging through your world.

Hey you posting retorts by their time. It is quite obvious who you are. It makes your school look worse that you are the only one here defending it, and not very well I might add.

[Anonymous]

Ha ha ha ha ha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

+1000
Visi's lax team was ranked 25th in the country (pre-season). There are lots of excellent lacrosse players -- I'm talking about girls who have played on good club teams for years and who work hard and are dedicated lax players -- that are just not going to make the cut on merit at a top-25 lax school. They would be starters on most other schools, but not at a top-25 school. That is a difficult reality to accept for a parent and child who have both spent lots of blood, sweat, tears (and money) on lacrosse but it is just reality. So complaining about a HS coaches' "conspiracy" against kids from club A or B is just silliness.

I would agree with you if they didn't recruit. How would you like your daughter to have been a starter after playing/practicing/going to school at Visi for years. Then find out the coach recruited players from public schools, brought them in the last 1-2 years while your child was benched her Junior/Senior year? You think that is fair. The actual coaches who coached her gave up and found others taught by other coaches. What does that say about the coach's skill, ethic, and thought for the Catholic school?

What is says is that your daughter isn't a very good lacrosse player. Nothing else.

It's not enough to work hard if you don't have athletic ability and talent and you picked a top-ranked school in your sport. If PLAYING is the Most important thing to you, go to a school that doesn't have a nationally ranked team in your sport.

Visi gets its name known by being nationally ranked girls lacrosse high school team. That IS important and it's pretty clear so, if you love lacrosse but just aren't that good, pick another school like Holy Cross, SR, Holy Child, SJC, where even a mediocre lacrosse player will get playing time. No coach can turn a mediocre athlete into a great lax player. You can't blame that on a coach.

You sound as if you are a high school student? Are you?