Georgetown Visitation Lacrosse- Recruiting Practices

[Anonymous]

the Catholic parents on this website are too obsessed with sports, nothing ever changes.

I assume most visi parents are also Prep and Gonzaga parents since they all married someone they knew from HS and never moved out of the neighborhood.

the cycle never ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the Catholic parents on this website are too obsessed with sports, nothing ever changes.

I assume most visi parents are also Prep and Gonzaga parents since they all married someone they knew from HS and never moved out of the neighborhood.

the cycle never ends.

And this bothers you because ...??

Wouldn't it be great if everyone did exactly as you wished they would?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the Catholic parents on this website are too obsessed with sports, nothing ever changes.

I assume most visi parents are also Prep and Gonzaga parents since they all married someone they knew from HS and never moved out of the neighborhood.

the cycle never ends.

Oh, you again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

As written by coach of visi. nice work

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

As written by coach of visi. nice work

Wrong, but bless your heart and I wish you some sort of peace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the Catholic parents on this website are too obsessed with sports, nothing ever changes.

I assume most visi parents are also Prep and Gonzaga parents since they all married someone they knew from HS and never moved out of the neighborhood.

the cycle never ends.

As a Catholic parent, I agree.

[Anonymous]

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is so blatant the Visitation Lacrosse coaches are abusing their power and putting self ambition first, not the girls or the values of Visitation.

I agree with this. They recruited a Senior pitcher and catcher from outside of the school to come in and take over so they could win the ISL. What a slap in the face to the rest of the team that worked so hard for years. No matter what the sport, the goal at this so called catholic school is to win at all costs. And by costs, it means your financial aid donations and your own child's playing time.

They were actually Juniors but yes, you are correct. They were bought in from public schools to win some ISL championships. They get a free education at a good school and the school gets bragging rights. The people that lose? The players that have been going, paying and practicing at Visi for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

+1000
Visi's lax team was ranked 25th in the country (pre-season). There are lots of excellent lacrosse players -- I'm talking about girls who have played on good club teams for years and who work hard and are dedicated lax players -- that are just not going to make the cut on merit at a top-25 lax school. They would be starters on most other schools, but not at a top-25 school. That is a difficult reality to accept for a parent and child who have both spent lots of blood, sweat, tears (and money) on lacrosse but it is just reality. So complaining about a HS coaches' "conspiracy" against kids from club A or B is just silliness.

[Anonymous]

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is so blatant the Visitation Lacrosse coaches are abusing their power and putting self ambition first, not the girls or the values of Visitation.

I agree with this. They recruited a Senior pitcher and catcher from outside of the school to come in and take over so they could win the ISL. What a slap in the face to the rest of the team that worked so hard for years. No matter what the sport, the goal at this so called catholic school is to win at all costs. And by costs, it means your financial aid donations and your own child's playing time.

They were actually Juniors but yes, you are correct. They were bought in from public schools to win some ISL championships. They get a free education at a good school and the school gets bragging rights. The people that lose? The players that have been going, paying and practicing at Visi for years.

That's pretty bad. It should be widely known if that is how the school does things so that parents and girls can make informed decisions about a school.
Why is winning at sports at a Catholic private girls school so important ? The girls who go to the school aren't good enough to play on the sports teams? They have to recruit for specific high profile sports to win more?
Is this to entertain the parents? To be able to say that some girls were recruited for sports to some colleges?
What is the endgame here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

+1000
Visi's lax team was ranked 25th in the country (pre-season). There are lots of excellent lacrosse players -- I'm talking about girls who have played on good club teams for years and who work hard and are dedicated lax players -- that are just not going to make the cut on merit at a top-25 lax school. They would be starters on most other schools, but not at a top-25 school. That is a difficult reality to accept for a parent and child who have both spent lots of blood, sweat, tears (and money) on lacrosse but it is just reality. So complaining about a HS coaches' "conspiracy" against kids from club A or B is just silliness.

I would agree with you if they didn't recruit. How would you like your daughter to have been a starter after playing/practicing/going to school at Visi for years. Then find out the coach recruited players from public schools, brought them in the last 1-2 years while your child was benched her Junior/Senior year? You think that is fair. The actual coaches who coached her gave up and found others taught by other coaches. What does that say about the coach's skill, ethic, and thought for the Catholic school?

[Anonymous]

Jeez Louise -- this place sounds pretty wacky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I can only say that our experience with Visitation lacrosse and the current coaches has been nothing short of excellent. I think there are parents who don't understand that there is nothing wrong with wanting to win and putting forth your best players to achieve that goal. Our experience is that these coaches put the Visitation motto of "faith, vision and purpose" first - and winning, second. Our girls do service as a team, help run clinics as a team, worked at our first Visitation Cub Classic as a team, and several helped out with tryouts for a Northern Virginia club team not named Capital. I could not ask for better role models for my daughter than these coaches. And as for the parent who commented that these coaches "pull the strings," well, I should hope so. Because there is nothing worse than parents pulling the strings through the AD to run the team.

I have had several daughters attend Visi, and they have been on many teams (not lax). I have my share of complaints about the school, but after following the posts on this thread, I have to say I don't recognize the school some of them are talking about. Apart from maybe the basketball team, I have not seen the "win at all costs" mentality. There are definitely things that could be fixed in the athletic department - there should be more accountability by the AD and coaches, and parents/students should be able to voice their concerns to an objective ear - but I feel like some of what has been said here is sour grapes from parents whose daughters just didn't make the cut for legitimate reasons.

I have to agree as well. The patent(s) who keep going in about "girls who have paid their dues" and "shown dedication and leadership" sounds like a parent who thinks her daughter is more important than the team. If a person isn't good enough to rise to the top on the full combination of merit, hard work and talent, then that person did not earn it. If you daughter isn't one if the best players then she hasn't actually earned the right to play. That is how sports goes. Just like if she doesn't have the highest GPA, no matter how hard she worked she doesn't deserve to be valedictorian. This isn't Stoddert rec where everyone plays the sane and everyone gets a trophy. By the the time you get to highschool it actually is about ability and talent.

+1000
Visi's lax team was ranked 25th in the country (pre-season). There are lots of excellent lacrosse players -- I'm talking about girls who have played on good club teams for years and who work hard and are dedicated lax players -- that are just not going to make the cut on merit at a top-25 lax school. They would be starters on most other schools, but not at a top-25 school. That is a difficult reality to accept for a parent and child who have both spent lots of blood, sweat, tears (and money) on lacrosse but it is just reality. So complaining about a HS coaches' "conspiracy" against kids from club A or B is just silliness.

I would agree with you if they didn't recruit. How would you like your daughter to have been a starter after playing/practicing/going to school at Visi for years. Then find out the coach recruited players from public schools, brought them in the last 1-2 years while your child was benched her Junior/Senior year? You think that is fair. The actual coaches who coached her gave up and found others taught by other coaches. What does that say about the coach's skill, ethic, and thought for the Catholic school?

What is says is that your daughter isn't a very good lacrosse player. Nothing else.

It's not enough to work hard if you don't have athletic ability and talent and you picked a top-ranked school in your sport. If PLAYING is the Most important thing to you, go to a school that doesn't have a nationally ranked team in your sport.

Visi gets its name known by being nationally ranked girls lacrosse high school team. That IS important and it's pretty clear so, if you love lacrosse but just aren't that good, pick another school like Holy Cross, SR, Holy Child, SJC, where even a mediocre lacrosse player will get playing time. No coach can turn a mediocre athlete into a great lax player. You can't blame that on a coach.