The current political climate in Sweden - Fascism is on the rise

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

[Anonymous]

Odysseus wrote:In a situation like Sweden's, when the backlash finally comes, it's unlikely to be delivered with the surgical precision and careful attention to just desserts that someone sitting behind a computer eight thousand miles away would like to see. This is one of those things that those of us who oppose mass immigration understand and that everyone else in the western world seems to have forgotten. If you read what the OP has said in this thread, it's obvious that he's not condoning the beating of innocent children, so let's stop pretending that that's the issue here. The issue is that when radically different groups of people are forced into close proximity, violence usually ensues. Anyone who claims to want to understand root causes needs to understand this: stabbings and bludgeonings in formerly safe streets were the foreseeable and inevitable consequence of the decision to allow an unprecedented wave of mass migration into Europe. Unfortunately for everyone, the beatings will continue until sanity returns.

OP here. Exactly.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

[Anonymous]

Once again I don't condone violence of any sort but these gangs of teenagers are the children they are referring to. Just as you say you want the truth in other cases, if you want the truth in his incident, you need to explain that the "children" they are referring to are gangs of teens that are attacking people. See this article.

"Swedish police warns that Stockholm's main train station has become unsafe after being ‘taken over’ by dozens of Moroccan street children.

The all-male migrant teen gangs are spreading terror in the centre of the Swedish capital, stealing, groping girls and assaulting security guards, according to Stockholm police.

Stockholm police estimate that at least 200 Moroccan street children move in the area around the main train station in the centre of the capital, sleeping rough, and living off criminal activity.

'These guys are a huge problem for us. They steal stuff everywhere and assault security guards at the central station,' one police officer told SVT.

'They grope girls between their legs, and slap them in the face when they protest. All police officers are aware of this.

'I would never let my children go to the central station. No officer would.'

The gangs are made up of orphans who have grown up on the streets of Casablanca and Tanger in Morocco, where authorities estimate there are around 800,000 homeless 'street children'.

They have all applied for asylum Sweden as unaccompanied minors after travelling through Spain and Germany, a journey which may have taken them years."

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

Do you believe that any of the refugees are out of control and that the Swedish government should protect their own people?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

Do you believe that any of the refugees are out of control and that the Swedish government should protect their own people?

I don't have an opinion on that. I believe that masked neo-Nazis shouldn't beat anyone, especially children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Is that man in the karate uniform Kramer from Seinfeld?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

I don't think they are defending nazis. I think you are trying to force a false dilemma here. One can find the brutality by the native swedes disgusting yet not find it surprising at all when the government is unwilling or unable to protect its citizens from the violent acts of some of these "children". There will be more of these mobs if the govt chooses by to reign in the violent behavior of some of these migrants

[Anonymous]

*not to reign in

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

Do you believe that any of the refugees are out of control and that the Swedish government should protect their own people?

I don't have an opinion on that. I believe that masked neo-Nazis shouldn't beat anyone, especially children.

And I have very strong opinions about cases like these. Note the behavior of about 50(!) of these rapists friends and family. THEIR BEHAVIOR is what European women are facing. THAT is what has citizens up in arms. You want to 'not have an opinion' about these men? I consider that as an admission that you support THEIR behavior. And the behavior of the murderer who killed that poor woman.

[Anonymous]

^^^ Link to British case:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/01/mother-of-british-girl-raped-by-three-somali-men-says-the-attackers-family-members-used-intimidation-tactics-throughout-the-trial/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have said multiple times I don't agree it's fascism. I do, however, understand why it has reared its ugly head.

You said that you can't blame the masked neo-Nazis for beating children. If you can't blame them, that means you think their actions are justified. It is really difficult to make a convincing argument that you oppose something while simultaneously claiming that it is justified and providing justifications for it.

Now I can see why you are voting for Sanders. You are so hell-bent on attacking, you lose sight of reason.

Anyone with a sense of logic can see how lack of safety will lead individuals to trust those they shouldn't if they are offering protection.

Losing sight of reason is what has happened when you find yourself defending the actions of neo-Nazis.

You notice how many here are not buying this line of thought?

Two. You and one other guy think you aren't defending Nazis.

I don't think they are defending nazis. I think you are trying to force a false dilemma here. One can find the brutality by the native swedes disgusting yet not find it surprising at all when the government is unwilling or unable to protect its citizens from the violent acts of some of these "children". There will be more of these mobs if the govt chooses by to reign in the violent behavior of some of these migrants

Yes, exactly. Thank you (OP here)