Nobody gives a shit about Gruber. Let it go and move on. |
What a bunch of bull. It was not necessary to shut down the government because of ACA and the shutdown hurt ALL Americans needlessly. |
I didn't use to like Boehner, but with all the new assholes running around he seems like a peach of a guy. |
I think Boehner's biggest gripe with Cruz is that he interferes in Boehner's territory by firing up the tea part caucus to split with Boehner. |
The biggest gripe with Cruz is that he is full of shit. He dons hunting attire and does the photo op and tells the blue collar base what they want to hear and so they think they "identify" with him, not realizing he's nothing like them, given he's all Brooks Brothers, silver spoons and Goldman Sachs. Biggest phoney and hypocrite going. The only thing he is good at is Goebbels tactics of repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again until people believe it, even though it's a whopper of a lie. |
You don't give a shit that the President and his cohorts lied to you to get law passed? Are you from a former banana republic? I'm sorry that Cruz was correct. It must really sting. |
The funny part? Tea Party saw through Boehner a long time ago. He has lied constantly. Cruz simply was someone in office who saw it as well, along with Lee, Paul, Gohmert, Gowdy, et al. |
I think it's necessary when the American people were deliberately lied to. |
Please tell me you're from Texas, not local, so that Cruz is actually representing you. The thing is, I know a lot about the ACA, what we had before it, the long negotiating process before it's passage, the way it has been revised after passage, the lawsuits, etc. Gruber was a tiny part of all of that. |
It doesn't matter how tiny his role was. Lies are lies. When you start with lies, you negotiate on lies, you revise on lies, etc. |
It is *NOT* the job of elected representatives to *shut down* government. EVER. It is their job to *FIX* government and make it work better. Shutting down government is *NOT* fixing it. Anyone who thinks it is, is an utter and complete MORON. |
Gruber isn't an elected official, he was a consultant, and his opinions don't change the substance of the law. If that is the most you have to hang your hat on re the ACA, just accept defeat and move on. |
What the fuck planet are you living on? The Tea Party are the ones out there who have been the WORST LIARS GOING, LYING THEIR ASSES OFF about things like "death panels" and "healthcare rationing" and "government funded abortions" and all of the other ACA gloom and doom that turns out to be completely false. Not to mention their constant batshit crazy "Obama is an illegal Kenyan Muslim Communist" and "Jade Helm is Obama invading Texas to confiscate guns and round up conservatives to send them to FEMA death camps" Tea Party = Delusional Morons |
The upside of the Tea Party movement is that it's made it much easier to identify the delusional morons in society. ![]() |
You mean Louis Gohmert, the intellectual giant who backed the bid of Allen West to become SOH and then thought he would be able to unseat Boehner? The Congressman who ensures stupid never sleeps? |