What's going on on DCUM??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I don't like is when people run to Jeff, or threaten Jeff when they read something like don't like. Unless a post is in true violation of DCUM's policies, then Jeff should not in any way intervene. Otherwise it damages the credibility of the site.

"Credibility"? It's an anonymous forum, not a peer-reviewed journal.

No, you're right, it's not a peer-reviewed journal, but I wasn't using credibility in the sense that all the facts are checked. What I meant by it is that this forum should be a free exchange of ideas. Running to Jeff or threatening Jeff every time you (and I don't mean you personally; it's a global use of the word) disagree with a post or find it to be too mean-spirited damages the notion of freely exchanging ideas. While it may be a privately-owned site so a person's right to free speech doesn't apply (check the FAQ section for details), if a free exchange of ideas is not allowed, however mean, inaccurate, etc., they may be, then all it becomes is a forum to promote your own agenda -- and I suspect this is NOT what the originators of DCUM had in mind when they created the site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the OP. I am not CL and, although I saw several references made to her on the thread about unpaid leave, I never read the CL thread itself. I couldnt point to any threads supposedly written by her as I do not know her MO.
Also, regardless of the defenses made here, I still find it disturbing that I am amongst people who enjoy cruelty as a sport, however witty.
I have been on dcum for several years-before it became "the" DCUM, and I know people here can be frank to the point of being cutting at times, but I think the posts lately are on a whole new level of meanness.

Thank you so much for this. I've been kind of stressed this week b/c of a few things going on medically but this just gave me the best laugh I think I have had all week. Whew!! Thanks, wiping tears.

(ps Signed, Not the CL, if anyone was wondering!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the OP. I am not CL and, although I saw several references made to her on the thread about unpaid leave, I never read the CL thread itself. I couldnt point to any threads supposedly written by her as I do not know her MO.
Also, regardless of the defenses made here, I still find it disturbing that I am amongst people who enjoy cruelty as a sport, however witty.
I have been on dcum for several years-before it became "the" DCUM, and I know people here can be frank to the point of being cutting at times, but I think the posts lately are on a whole new level of meanness.

Thank you so much for this. I've been kind of stressed this week b/c of a few things going on medically but this just gave me the best laugh I think I have had all week. Whew!! Thanks, wiping tears.

(ps Signed, Not the CL, if anyone was wondering!)

(NB ^^^^ trying to write a nonsensically nice post, ala CL, which will then soon be followed by a mean post, a la CL. So, brace yourselves, ladies. )

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if we all pretend to be CL, she'll get confused and leave.

That is hilarious!! Let's do this!!

Does anyone remember "Being John Malkovich"? That would be similar.

Yes, I definitely remember that movie. Good movie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the OP. I am not CL and, although I saw several references made to her on the thread about unpaid leave, I never read the CL thread itself. I couldnt point to any threads supposedly written by her as I do not know her MO.
Also, regardless of the defenses made here, I still find it disturbing that I am amongst people who enjoy cruelty as a sport, however witty.
I have been on dcum for several years-before it became "the" DCUM, and I know people here can be frank to the point of being cutting at times, but I think the posts lately are on a whole new level of meanness.

Thank you so much for this. I've been kind of stressed this week b/c of a few things going on medically but this just gave me the best laugh I think I have had all week. Whew!! Thanks, wiping tears.

(ps Signed, Not the CL, if anyone was wondering!)

OP here. I have NO idea why my post would illicit such mirth (really confused), but happy to have done you a service.

[Anonymous]

I agree with you OP. The bitches were out in full force in both threads, though I didn't get far in the blogger one. Then the damn annoying 'is this cl?' in every other thread now, ugh.

[Anonymous]

I like DCUM exactly the way it is. I would have no interest in coming on here if it was all pleasant and polite and babycenter-like. Sometimes I feel more connected to people on DCUM than people in real life, because people on here say what I'm thinking in my head but would never say out loud. I love knowing that other people are thinking these things too. And very often, the supposedly "mean" posts are also cogently written, interesting, and funny as hell. Good luck finding that on babycenter.

[Anonymous]

Using the word "bully" to describe DCUM posters is ridiculous. It's not the same thing, not by a long shot. I can guarantee that anyone who is bullied in real life would give anything to be able to click off and never have to deal with the bullies again. And guess what? You can do that with DCUM! Nobody is calling you, e-mailing you, texting you, posting on your facebook page, or harassing you at your home or your place of work. In fact, nobody knows anything about you except what you have CHOSEN to post publicly. That bus lady didn't wake up in the morning and think, maybe I'll go ride the school bus today for entertainment. She didn't write a blog or message board post with all of her confessions and opinions. It was her job and she needed the money and she had no choice. To say DCUM is like that is a totally false comparison and frankly, it's offensive to people who have been the victim of true bullying.

I suppose the blogger got a bit of a raw deal, if you buy that she had no idea someone had posted her blog on here, which I'm still not sure I do. But the fact is, when you post offensive viewpoints on the internet, whether it's DCUM or your own blog, you can't really be surprised when people react. Nobody broke into this woman's computer and read her diary. She wanted other moms to read her blog and that's exactly what happened. If everyone on DCUM had loved it, she would have been thrilled that so many people had read it. The truth is nobody said anything that bad about her personally. In fact, everyone seemed to agree that she is pretty and has a cute kid. The negative feeback was about her writing and her opinions, the things she put out for public consumption. And nobody posted any information about her that she herself had not already allowed to be public. If you choose to get in the sandbox and start throwing sand, you can't be surprised when it gets thrown back at you too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The trolls are out of control on DCUM lately. I hope more people will ask Jeff to block CL. She is the bully, and I have noticed a marked increase in outrageous, cruel posts to even the sweetest threads (e.g., my very clever dd) or threads where the OP seems genuinely in need of sympathy (e.g., filed for divorce today) in the past couple of weeks. I can only infer it's due to her and like-minded trolls.

I've been on DCUM for years, and it's never been this bad before. OP, if you are CL, I hope you won't be on DCUM much longer.


CL here. Why block me? Because I'm not afraid to respond to the nasty women that linger around here? The cowards that lash out online because IRL they're a bunch of wimps or passive aggressive bitches that don't have the guts to say stuff to people's faces?

That's all I do. I speak up. Where I grow up there's no bullying. You know why? Because if someone makes fun of someone in school they get disciplined in school AND at home. Here you teach your children that it's OK to make fun of others, to question the teachers when they don't rule in favor of your precious innocent offspring so they grow up to think the world revolves around them.

Bad news, it doesn't!

And on the "make shit up" you like to emphasize, guess what? I would never post a thread with all real information about my family. NEVER. I would never risk to be outed by a nosy neighbor or a two-faced "friend". Like a lot of users here I change details and will keep doing so.

Honestly, CL, I don't care to block you. I just care to let everyone know that you post completely fake posts, so if they are inclined to worry about the details of your posts, they can be free to ignore you, or spend a lot less time worrying about you. You lie. Maybe you lie because it amuses you. Whatever. I don't care. I do care about the pages and pages of people who don't know you and think you are posting about real problems.

The problem with you, CL, is you think you are some kind of victim of bullying. You're not. You are an admitted liar who posts fake and being called out is not bullying. You're inability to grasp this either means you are incredibly stupid, or incredibly evil. Personally, I hope you are just stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I suppose the blogger got a bit of a raw deal, if you buy that she had no idea someone had posted her blog on here, which I'm still not sure I do. But the fact is, when you post offensive viewpoints on the internet, whether it's DCUM or your own blog, you can't really be surprised when people react. Nobody broke into this woman's computer and read her diary. She wanted other moms to read her blog and that's exactly what happened. If everyone on DCUM had loved it, she would have been thrilled that so many people had read it. The truth is nobody said anything that bad about her personally. In fact, everyone seemed to agree that she is pretty and has a cute kid. The negative feeback was about her writing and her opinions, the things she put out for public consumption. And nobody posted any information about her that she herself had not already allowed to be public. If you choose to get in the sandbox and start throwing sand, you can't be surprised when it gets thrown back at you too.

PP, in all fairness, someone DID post a couple of entries claiming to have found out the blogger's name, address, and the name of her husband's business. I suppose it wasn't hard to do, given all the information the blogger voluntarily diclosed on her blog, but still it was too much, and looked rather creepy. Jeff later deleted those pages.

That said, my opinion about that blog hasn't changed. It is pretty pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Using the word "bully" to describe DCUM posters is ridiculous. It's not the same thing, not by a long shot. I can guarantee that anyone who is bullied in real life would give anything to be able to click off and never have to deal with the bullies again. And guess what? You can do that with DCUM! Nobody is calling you, e-mailing you, texting you, posting on your facebook page, or harassing you at your home or your place of work. In fact, nobody knows anything about you except what you have CHOSEN to post publicly. That bus lady didn't wake up in the morning and think, maybe I'll go ride the school bus today for entertainment. She didn't write a blog or message board post with all of her confessions and opinions. It was her job and she needed the money and she had no choice. To say DCUM is like that is a totally false comparison and frankly, it's offensive to people who have been the victim of true bullying.

I suppose the blogger got a bit of a raw deal, if you buy that she had no idea someone had posted her blog on here, which I'm still not sure I do. But the fact is, when you post offensive viewpoints on the internet, whether it's DCUM or your own blog, you can't really be surprised when people react. Nobody broke into this woman's computer and read her diary. She wanted other moms to read her blog and that's exactly what happened. If everyone on DCUM had loved it, she would have been thrilled that so many people had read it. The truth is nobody said anything that bad about her personally. In fact, everyone seemed to agree that she is pretty and has a cute kid. The negative feeback was about her writing and her opinions, the things she put out for public consumption. And nobody posted any information about her that she herself had not already allowed to be public. If you choose to get in the sandbox and start throwing sand, you can't be surprised when it gets thrown back at you too.

No more calls, we have a winner. People complaining about "bullying" are just like the Christian conservatives complaining about "offensive" TV shows. If you don't like a show, change the damn channel, and if you don't like a DCUM thread, don't click on it. Better yet, stop playing on the internet altogether and either get back to work or play with your kids - do something productive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like DCUM exactly the way it is. I would have no interest in coming on here if it was all pleasant and polite and babycenter-like. Sometimes I feel more connected to people on DCUM than people in real life, because people on here say what I'm thinking in my head but would never say out loud. I love knowing that other people are thinking these things too. And very often, the supposedly "mean" posts are also cogently written, interesting, and funny as hell. Good luck finding that on babycenter.

I agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The trolls are out of control on DCUM lately. I hope more people will ask Jeff to block CL. She is the bully, and I have noticed a marked increase in outrageous, cruel posts to even the sweetest threads (e.g., my very clever dd) or threads where the OP seems genuinely in need of sympathy (e.g., filed for divorce today) in the past couple of weeks. I can only infer it's due to her and like-minded trolls.

I've been on DCUM for years, and it's never been this bad before. OP, if you are CL, I hope you won't be on DCUM much longer.


CL here. Why block me? Because I'm not afraid to respond to the nasty women that linger around here? The cowards that lash out online because IRL they're a bunch of wimps or passive aggressive bitches that don't have the guts to say stuff to people's faces?

That's all I do. I speak up. Where I grow up there's no bullying. You know why? Because if someone makes fun of someone in school they get disciplined in school AND at home. Here you teach your children that it's OK to make fun of others, to question the teachers when they don't rule in favor of your precious innocent offspring so they grow up to think the world revolves around them.

Bad news, it doesn't!

And on the "make shit up" you like to emphasize, guess what? I would never post a thread with all real information about my family. NEVER. I would never risk to be outed by a nosy neighbor or a two-faced "friend". Like a lot of users here I change details and will keep doing so.

Honestly, CL, I don't care to block you. I just care to let everyone know that you post completely fake posts, so if they are inclined to worry about the details of your posts, they can be free to ignore you, or spend a lot less time worrying about you. You lie. Maybe you lie because it amuses you. Whatever. I don't care. I do care about the pages and pages of people who don't know you and think you are posting about real problems.

The problem with you, CL, is you think you are some kind of victim of bullying. You're not. You are an admitted liar who posts fake and being called out is not bullying. You're inability to grasp this either means you are incredibly stupid, or incredibly evil. Personally, I hope you are just stupid.

Your post makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like DCUM exactly the way it is. I would have no interest in coming on here if it was all pleasant and polite and babycenter-like. Sometimes I feel more connected to people on DCUM than people in real life, because people on here say what I'm thinking in my head but would never say out loud. I love knowing that other people are thinking these things too. And very often, the supposedly "mean" posts are also cogently written, interesting, and funny as hell. Good luck finding that on babycenter.

OP here. This here is why I think it's an age thing. I've definitely been aged out of DCUM. I don't think anyone I know is like this IRL or anonymously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The trolls are out of control on DCUM lately. I hope more people will ask Jeff to block CL. She is the bully, and I have noticed a marked increase in outrageous, cruel posts to even the sweetest threads (e.g., my very clever dd) or threads where the OP seems genuinely in need of sympathy (e.g., filed for divorce today) in the past couple of weeks. I can only infer it's due to her and like-minded trolls.

I've been on DCUM for years, and it's never been this bad before. OP, if you are CL, I hope you won't be on DCUM much longer.


CL here. Why block me? Because I'm not afraid to respond to the nasty women that linger around here? The cowards that lash out online because IRL they're a bunch of wimps or passive aggressive bitches that don't have the guts to say stuff to people's faces?

That's all I do. I speak up. Where I grow up there's no bullying. You know why? Because if someone makes fun of someone in school they get disciplined in school AND at home. Here you teach your children that it's OK to make fun of others, to question the teachers when they don't rule in favor of your precious innocent offspring so they grow up to think the world revolves around them.

Bad news, it doesn't!

And on the "make shit up" you like to emphasize, guess what? I would never post a thread with all real information about my family. NEVER. I would never risk to be outed by a nosy neighbor or a two-faced "friend". Like a lot of users here I change details and will keep doing so.

Honestly, CL, I don't care to block you. I just care to let everyone know that you post completely fake posts, so if they are inclined to worry about the details of your posts, they can be free to ignore you, or spend a lot less time worrying about you. You lie. Maybe you lie because it amuses you. Whatever. I don't care. I do care about the pages and pages of people who don't know you and think you are posting about real problems.

The problem with you, CL, is you think you are some kind of victim of bullying. You're not. You are an admitted liar who posts fake and being called out is not bullying. You're inability to grasp this either means you are incredibly stupid, or incredibly evil. Personally, I hope you are just stupid.

Your post makes absolutely no sense.

Sorry, CL, her post makes perfect sense to the non-delusional. (I know you're delusional, but rest assured the rest of us think it makes sense and agree.)