MCPS troll playground

[Anonymous]

I just don't see how it contributes in anything but a negative way to jump into threads on teachers with "teachers are not the best and the brightest."

It's not even on subject. W hen somebody is talking about, I dunno, government workers, would you chime in with "they tend to be fat"?

And when you say something like this in isolation, it drowns out all the positive things about teachers. Like they have grueling days and can't take bathroom breaks. Suddenly, teachers' supposed average intelligence becomes the only discussion point in whether they deserve COLAs.

[Anonymous]

Maybe we agree it's unfair to build a single "teacher bogeyman"? This is what Troll #3 is doing at 10:43 with her whingy teacher that she uses as a straw teacher for denying raises to all teachers.

The poster I'm disgusted with is the one that keeps posting how teachers have lower SATs than the general population, are dumb and can't do anything else besides teach. No, I'm not a teacher nor are there any teachers in my family. But my kids have had some good and some bad teachers.

I think it's sort of like my own very different field of work, where some of my colleagues are winners and some are losers.

+100

The SAT poster is also wrong. I read the study they think they are referring to and that's definitely not the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

[Anonymous]

You failed to address my other post where I asked if you made $270K, which is 3x my salary.

Enjoy your week of work. We'll be heading to the pool and the park. We might take in a movie on a day that's a scorcher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

[Anonymous]

Oh - And what DO you do that enriches the lives of students?

Please share. I'd love to know your job title.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You failed to address my other post where I asked if you made $270K, which is 3x my salary.

Enjoy your week of work. We'll be heading to the pool and the park. We might take in a movie on a day that's a scorcher.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

Oops. Sorry, I actually make 340K plus bonus. Your pay is even crappier than I thought. Enjoy heading to the pool. I have my own.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh - And what DO you do that enriches the lives of students?

Please share. I'd love to know your job title.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

My job title: Sr. VP Nursing and Clinical Operations
I've truly saved lives... like caring for critically ill children saving lives, doing CPR, working pediatric critical care transport team, don't even go there with me about saving lives. You can't even mop up my wake when it comes to saving lives.

[Anonymous]

wow

Based on your compassionate responses, I'm sure you're fantastic at what you do! a real Mother Teresa!

Have fun tomorrow. We'll be at the pool.

And enjoy your $270K, if that's what you make, that is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh - And what DO you do that enriches the lives of students?

Please share. I'd love to know your job title.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

My job title: Sr. VP Nursing and Clinical Operations
I've truly saved lives... like caring for critically ill children saving lives, doing CPR, working pediatric critical care transport team, don't even go there with me about saving lives. You can't even mop up my wake when it comes to saving lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh - And what DO you do that enriches the lives of students?

Please share. I'd love to know your job title.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is this - People are jealous of teachers.

While we may not make the big bucks we
- have great health insurance,
- are able to stay home with our kids during the summer,
- have somewhat normal hours where we may be able to do drop off and/or pick up,
- can tutor our own kids or find experts who can (big plus),
- in some cases can pick the schools for our own kids, and
- can spend holidays with our children.

But most of all, despite how difficult the job is (Most on this board won't agree but that's just ignorance.), we enrich and save lives.

Ummmm... With the exception of staying home all summer, I have all of the above, only I make about 3x as much money.
So, not really feeling the jealously.

You enrich and save lives, too?

You are truly Superwoman, eh?

bravo!

I don't care how much you make; I am with my kids over the summer. To me, that is more important.

I do
I am
Thank you
Ok

My job title: Sr. VP Nursing and Clinical Operations
I've truly saved lives... like caring for critically ill children saving lives, doing CPR, working pediatric critical care transport team, don't even go there with me about saving lives. You can't even mop up my wake when it comes to saving lives.

NP here.

I am a teacher and coach. I have saved one child's life when she collapsed on my track during a pre-practice run and I gave her CPR.

I also helped a former student when she was pregnant with twins and talked her out of getting an abortion, so I guess that is two more lives I saved. We are still in touch; she has a wonderful job and supports her twins beautifully with the help of their daddy and the education she received at my high school and then two years of community college, where she got a certificate in cosmetology.

So, it is just six figure making nurses that save lives. Who knew?

[Anonymous]

Not that PP but "saving lives" could have been meant metaphorically. Talking kids out of dropping out of school, counseling kids who are abusing drugs.

[Anonymous]

Huh, even though I thought Ms. Sr, VP Nursing and Such....was very bitchy when she first id'd herself on this thread, well, I think she wins this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Huh, even though I thought Ms. Sr, VP Nursing and Such....was very bitchy when she first id'd herself on this thread, well, I think she wins this.

what?

an award for saving lives?

She trains nurses, correct? Or oversees training? I can't imagine she's the one getting her "hands dirty" if she's that high. She delegates.

So she saves lives second or third hand.

I don't count that.

Plus, it's very difficult to move about the ER with a pole up one's ass.

[Anonymous]

A point being missed... Whether the "best and brightest" go into teaching is irrelevant. Being of slightly higher intelligence does not equate to being a better teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A point being missed... Whether the "best and brightest" go into teaching is irrelevant. Being of slightly higher intelligence does not equate to being a better teacher.

I agree.

I've worked with PhDs who couldn't handle anything BUT higher level classes. And even then their main method of instruction was lecture. Of course, not ALL PhDs are unsuccessful with struggling students. But as PP said, being a genius doesn't always work to one's benefit in the classroom.

We have to keep in mind that DCUM is filled with elitist assholes who define intelligence in one way. Many of these arrogant posters wouldn't last a day in the classroom. I've seen quite a few career changers (I'm one.) leave w/in a year. One walked out mid-year in fact! He couldn't handle the pressure. Another, who was a researcher turned teacher, broke down and left after two weeks.

Talented teachers are both born and made. You need the personality first of all to keep students engaged but you must also learn that good instruction and management go hand in hand. It's a very difficult job that few can handle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A point being missed... Whether the "best and brightest" go into teaching is irrelevant. Being of slightly higher intelligence does not equate to being a better teacher.

I agree.

I've worked with PhDs who couldn't handle anything BUT higher level classes. And even then their main method of instruction was lecture. Of course, not ALL PhDs are unsuccessful with struggling students. But as PP said, being a genius doesn't always work to one's benefit in the classroom.

We have to keep in mind that DCUM is filled with elitist assholes who define intelligence in one way. Many of these arrogant posters wouldn't last a day in the classroom. I've seen quite a few career changers (I'm one.) leave w/in a year. One walked out mid-year in fact! He couldn't handle the pressure. Another, who was a researcher turned teacher, broke down and left after two weeks.

Talented teachers are both born and made. You need the personality first of all to keep students engaged but you must also learn that good instruction and management go hand in hand. It's a very difficult job that few can handle.

I think you mean few can handle well.
While there are many teachers, there seem to be few truly good ones.