Uh Oh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This not showing your long form legitimate birth certificate is nonsense. He definately doesn't have one thats why it's important to throw out the Racism charge to try to scare everybiby off the trail. Racism charges are blood libel.

Let's accept that he doesn't have a long form birth certificate. Do you deny the legitimacy of the short form certificate that has been made public?

I can tell you that my mother had a certificate of live birth and it was not acceptable when I needed to show her Birth Certificate to Social Security.

Both long and short forms are "certificates of live birth". So there was something else wrong with your mother's birth certificate. SSA requires an original birth certificate, certain limited "other" proof of birth, or a certified copy of a birth certificate. Photocopies are not allowed.

Obama's will absolutely pass SSA. It is a certified copy of a birth certificate. In fact when you ask for a certified copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, there is only one type - the one supplied to Obama. So either all Hawaiians are screwed when applying for social security, or Obama's must be acceptable to SSA.

But you probably knew that already.

[Anonymous]

Where's McCain's birth certificate? Wasn't he born in Panama?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where's McCain's birth certificate? Wasn't he born in Panama?

Father was in military and considered the same as if he had been bornin USA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This not showing your long form legitimate birth certificate is nonsense. He definately doesn't have one thats why it's important to throw out the Racism charge to try to scare everybiby off the trail. Racism charges are blood libel.

Let's accept that he doesn't have a long form birth certificate. Do you deny the legitimacy of the short form certificate that has been made public?

I can tell you that my mother had a certificate of live birth and it was not acceptable when I needed to show her Birth Certificate to Social Security.

Both long and short forms are "certificates of live birth". So there was something else wrong with your mother's birth certificate. SSA requires an original birth certificate, certain limited "other" proof of birth, or a certified copy of a birth certificate. Photocopies are not allowed.

Obama's will absolutely pass SSA. It is a certified copy of a birth certificate. In fact when you ask for a certified copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, there is only one type - the one supplied to Obama. So either all Hawaiians are screwed when applying for social security, or Obama's must be acceptable to SSA.

But you probably knew that already.

My mother was born in Louisiana and had an original certificate of live birth and SSA still wanted an original birth certificate. She was born at Barksdale Air Force Base to US citizens.

[Anonymous]

Obama was born in Kenya...and everybody knows it deep inside. Now they say they have found his long form certificate "but can't show it". Jeez.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where's McCain's birth certificate? Wasn't he born in Panama?

Father was in military and considered the same as if he had been bornin USA.

I know that. My point is that we are scrutinizing the guy who was born in the USA (Obama) and no one gave a second thought to the guy who was born outside of the USA (McCain). I wonder why...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This not showing your long form legitimate birth certificate is nonsense. He definately doesn't have one thats why it's important to throw out the Racism charge to try to scare everybiby off the trail. Racism charges are blood libel.

Let's accept that he doesn't have a long form birth certificate. Do you deny the legitimacy of the short form certificate that has been made public?

I can tell you that my mother had a certificate of live birth and it was not acceptable when I needed to show her Birth Certificate to Social Security.

Both long and short forms are "certificates of live birth". So there was something else wrong with your mother's birth certificate. SSA requires an original birth certificate, certain limited "other" proof of birth, or a certified copy of a birth certificate. Photocopies are not allowed.

Obama's will absolutely pass SSA. It is a certified copy of a birth certificate. In fact when you ask for a certified copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, there is only one type - the one supplied to Obama. So either all Hawaiians are screwed when applying for social security, or Obama's must be acceptable to SSA.

But you probably knew that already.

My mother was born in Louisiana and had an original certificate of live birth and SSA still wanted an original birth certificate. She was born at Barksdale Air Force Base to US citizens.

You are confused on your terminology.

Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth are the same thing. I think maybe you mean certification of live birth. That is the government officially certifying that the birth is on record. That is exactly what Obama already has produced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where's McCain's birth certificate? Wasn't he born in Panama?

Father was in military and considered the same as if he had been bornin USA.

Yes, and so are children born to an American parent. Which is why this whole thing is so absurd.

[Anonymous]

Too late to complain. Suck it up and put up with the stupid politicians.
Do not worry. Each one has always been replaced by someone dumb

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where's McCain's birth certificate? Wasn't he born in Panama?

Father was in military and considered the same as if he had been bornin USA.

Yes, and so are children born to an American parent. Which is why this whole thing is so absurd.

Was his father a civilian working for US govt? I don't believe he was, If one or both parens are American then child must be registered t US embassy. Was this done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This not showing your long form legitimate birth certificate is nonsense. He definately doesn't have one thats why it's important to throw out the Racism charge to try to scare everybiby off the trail. Racism charges are blood libel.

Let's accept that he doesn't have a long form birth certificate. Do you deny the legitimacy of the short form certificate that has been made public?

I can tell you that my mother had a certificate of live birth and it was not acceptable when I needed to show her Birth Certificate to Social Security.

Both long and short forms are "certificates of live birth". So there was something else wrong with your mother's birth certificate. SSA requires an original birth certificate, certain limited "other" proof of birth, or a certified copy of a birth certificate. Photocopies are not allowed.

Obama's will absolutely pass SSA. It is a certified copy of a birth certificate. In fact when you ask for a certified copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, there is only one type - the one supplied to Obama. So either all Hawaiians are screwed when applying for social security, or Obama's must be acceptable to SSA.

But you probably knew that already.

My mother was born in Louisiana and had an original certificate of live birth and SSA still wanted an original birth certificate. She was born at Barksdale Air Force Base to US citizens.

You are confused on your terminology.

Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth are the same thing. I think maybe you mean certification of live birth. That is the government officially certifying that the birth is on record. That is exactly what Obama already has produced.

No, I now have the original Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This not showing your long form legitimate birth certificate is nonsense. He definately doesn't have one thats why it's important to throw out the Racism charge to try to scare everybiby off the trail. Racism charges are blood libel.

Let's accept that he doesn't have a long form birth certificate. Do you deny the legitimacy of the short form certificate that has been made public?

I can tell you that my mother had a certificate of live birth and it was not acceptable when I needed to show her Birth Certificate to Social Security.

Both long and short forms are "certificates of live birth". So there was something else wrong with your mother's birth certificate. SSA requires an original birth certificate, certain limited "other" proof of birth, or a certified copy of a birth certificate. Photocopies are not allowed.

Obama's will absolutely pass SSA. It is a certified copy of a birth certificate. In fact when you ask for a certified copy of a birth certificate in Hawaii, there is only one type - the one supplied to Obama. So either all Hawaiians are screwed when applying for social security, or Obama's must be acceptable to SSA.

But you probably knew that already.

My mother was born in Louisiana and had an original certificate of live birth and SSA still wanted an original birth certificate. She was born at Barksdale Air Force Base to US citizens.

You are confused on your terminology.

Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth are the same thing. I think maybe you mean certification of live birth. That is the government officially certifying that the birth is on record. That is exactly what Obama already has produced.

No, I now have the original Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth,

Yes, but the distinction is not in those words. They are synonyms. Some states use one term, and others use another. One of your documents is accepted by the SSA as certified, and the other isn't. What they care about is that they can tell that the State certifies and records the birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously if he had a legitimate birth certificate this would never be any issue at all. He obviously does not have a legitimate binding birth certificate. He may or may not have been born in the U.S. Technically, he may or may not be a legitimate President. I personally don't care that much about having a person who technically wasn't born in the U.S. but has lived here for most of their life be a President. Legally it would be a mess and the whole thing is kind of wierd and fascinating. Obama is not a very well known personality. The details of his life are very sketchy and mysterious.

Exactly! If Obama had a birth certificate, then the easily-gulled rubes and imbeciles who make up the right-wing base wouldn't be up in arms. The easily gulled rubes and imbeciles who make up the right-wing base *are* up in arms, therefore, Obama has no birth certificate.

QED.

It's going to be a problem for the Democratic Party if most of them truly believe what you do--that the right-wing base is comprised of "easily-gulled rubes and imbeciles." Also, your use of the word "imbecile" is extremely offensive, given its demeaning description (no longer used by medical professionals) of developmentally delayed individuals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama was born in Kenya...and everybody knows it deep inside. Now they say they have found his long form certificate "but can't show it". Jeez.

Ha ha you're nuts! And I think you know it "deep inside"!

[snowcrash]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obama was born in Kenya...and everybody knows it deep inside. Now they say they have found his long form certificate "but can't show it". Jeez.

Ha ha you're nuts! And I think you know it "deep inside"!

And I guess that "deep inside" everyone knows that Obama has access to a secret government time machine ( ) that he used to travel back to the 1960's and plant a convenient birth announcement. Either that or his parents must have been a couple of nefarious super-villains who really planned ahead, knowing that if they put a fake birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspapers, one day their Kenyan-born son would rise to the presidency for the sole purpose of destroying America.